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General Discussion / Re: [new DAC] Satoshi Fantasy - Fantasybits
« on: April 16, 2014, 03:54:05 am »
Potentially very cool!
Honors AGS/PTS? I'm guessing no because "proof-of-stake system, without pre-distribution", what does that mean?

No pre-distribution, no pump and dump, all fantasybits are generated by NFL players playing football. there a some  other potential ways for a return on equity. no real business plan here, system designed to grow organically.
So the ones that gable early on will hold the shares?
there are no shares.. kinda like currency, but predictions instead if mining. 

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General Discussion / Re: [new DAC] Satoshi Fantasy - Fantasybits
« on: April 16, 2014, 12:56:10 am »
Potentially very cool!
Honors AGS/PTS? I'm guessing no because "proof-of-stake system, without pre-distribution", what does that mean?

No pre-distribution, no pump and dump, all fantasybits are generated by NFL players playing football. there a some  other potential ways for a return on equity. no real business plan here, system designed to grow organically. 

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1/11/17 ***NEW THREAD - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1723391



Distributed Autonomous Fantasy Football

whitepaper
http://satoshifantasy.com/media/satoshifantasy.pdf

source
https://github.com/jaybny/fantasybit

Key Features:
  • proof-of-stake system, without pre-distribution
  • written in pure C++11, from scratch
  • Code ready for MVP release.


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General Discussion / Re: A Call to the Truthcoin Prediction Market
« on: March 31, 2014, 05:59:32 am »
how would I use TruthCoin for my project?

https://github.com/jaybny/fantasybit

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DAC PLAY / Re: BitShares Lotto
« on: March 26, 2014, 05:19:27 am »
I think we simply make it a market for data feeds.   Have someone produce a data feed that the network uses.  Every time a transaction references that data-feed, the owner of the feed gets a cut of the transaction fees.   Now market participants can place bets according to the feed.

Isn't this centralized with a singe point of failure?  One idea is to use a PoS Consensus transaction, where the data from the feed becomes valid only after it is signed by majority stake.

No it is free market competition.  There can be many data feeds and anyone can start a business producing the feed.  The bet odds will factor in the probability that the feed is corrupt.   Market incentives are for honest feeds.

And there will of course be multiple feeds for the same event.  John_SuperBowl_Feed, Jim_SuperBowl_Feed, Sam_SuperBowl_Feed.  The bettors could set it up to require X% of feeds in agreement, or else the bet is cancelled.

Of course then you have potential conflict-of-interest where somebody with a large losing bet goes to John and Jim and offers to pay them off if they provide the wrong info in their feeds.  So the betting system needs some kind of built-in payment to the feed providers (which can be specified when setting up the bet) to keep them honest.  They would rather get a cut of 10% of the total bets made, than a big payoff from some losing bettor.


i don't know the context here, but at some point, the after the fact data "results" needs to be unanimous or else there is a fork. especially if its binary (bool) data.

or is each provider his own "broker" to both sides of the trade?

I really think that the problems/solutions regarding feeds is specific to the DAS (system), and cannot be generalized.  If there is a solution in BitShares then its a feature of bts, and cannot be abstracted for implementation in NXT  :P or Ether for example.


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General Discussion / Re: Ethereum - better than Bitshares?
« on: March 26, 2014, 02:28:43 am »
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Meanwhile, back at the bat cave, Bytemaster and their team are actually working on making a product and hoping that it will impress people enough to inspire competition in the space.

 +5% +5% +5% +5%

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General Discussion / Re: DAS Tools
« on: March 25, 2014, 05:21:51 pm »
C++11 does not suck, and will be around much longer then go. Having said that, nice to see someone deliver on something.

How does this compare to:
https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit 

 

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DAC PLAY / Re: BitShares Lotto
« on: March 25, 2014, 05:17:26 pm »
I think we simply make it a market for data feeds.   Have someone produce a data feed that the network uses.  Every time a transaction references that data-feed, the owner of the feed gets a cut of the transaction fees.   Now market participants can place bets according to the feed.

Isn't this centralized with a singe point of failure?  One idea is to use a PoS Consensus transaction, where the data from the feed becomes valid only after it is signed by majority stake.

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I've seen lots of "DAC" ideas around here that seem to totally miss the point. The purpose of a DAC is to cause the emergent behavior of a large network of people to behave in a way that a centralized entity could not, while adding value for all participants. Most of what I've seen is just "let's take this business model and put it on a blockchain" - almost always it seems *worse* than a centralized solution.

So here's the litmus test: Which social dillemma is your DAC addressing, and which payoff matrix is flipped as a result of adding the blockchain?

For BTS DNS: Each individual benefits from having squatted a successful domain, while the collective as a whole suffers from the lack of available domains. By the auction/dividend model, it is now *more profitable not to squat than to squat*.

For BTS X: It is *more profitable* to participate in the market peg than to fight it.

For Bitcoin: It is *more profitable* to be an honest miner than a dishonest miner.

Also, if the centralized version of your DAC, is on the edge of legality, or has high barrier to entry due to regulation, then your DAC is viable too.

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Im working on a kind of DAC. Im looking at the bitshares_tools library and was wondering if it can it be used with pure PoS instead of TaPOS? 

Also, my system uses some public domain external data. My idea is to have a PoS Consensus on the value of this data.

Current stake holders:
Account1:  10 coins
Account2:  4 coins
Account3:  8 coins
Account4: 3 coins
Total coins: 25

PoS Consensus:
51% of stake must sign data, data will be signed recursively. Transaction would be valid after signed by 13 coins in this example: 

Example of valid transactions: 
Account2.sign(Account1.sign(data))
Account3.sign(Account2.sign(Account4.sign(data)))

either of these transactions are valid, and once it gets into the block, the next block will then automatically generate deterministic transactions  based on the data from previous block.

The recursion would save lots of space vs traditional multi-sig.

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General Discussion / Re: Bounty - SatoshiFantasy logo
« on: December 19, 2013, 09:07:47 am »
a logo and icon  - marketing splash... SatoshiFantasy is the DAC that generates FantasyBits with POW and POS.

not a coin.

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General Discussion / Re: Bounty - SatoshiFantasy logo
« on: December 19, 2013, 08:48:21 am »
not sure. winner by my vote, in 2 weeks.

then will provide for info for a second bounty to update logo based on context.

 :-\ 

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General Discussion / Bounty - SatoshiFantasy logo
« on: December 19, 2013, 08:36:51 am »
.5 BTC or 10000 FantasyBits bounty. create my logo for "SatoshiFantasy" from this:



maybe something like the WNBA logo with some spice.


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