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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] CITADEL Desktop 2019
« on: January 10, 2019, 05:13:37 am »
Quote from: jhtitor on January 10, 2019, 01:04:18 am

Quote from: Digital Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 06:29:55 am
huge dissapointment when it comes to that Stealth tab where you can create account but cannot top the funds for months now... I was so happy to see that part coming to life.

Thank you for the report. I'll investigate ASAP. There's a thread on this forum and a bug tracker on github, you should've reported this earlier :P (Also, tickets created by committee members and witness accounts are served with highest priority).

Quote from: Digital Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 06:29:55 am
Anyway, great job with Citadel, and if you wanna really get some Monero mining customers, you do need to invest some real monero from that mining into the markets on the dex, or its not going.

You are 100% right and we're working in bringing liquidity to our markets. This is something to be announced very soon.

Quote from: Digital Lucifer on December 31, 2018, 06:29:55 am
Or at least provide withdrawals for monero after successful mining.

We do that, you can always withdraw your mined tokens as real XMR via our gateway.

- You are absolutely right! I'm always bringing bug reports but never properly report them (github, mails, etc...). Ill do my best to report all the bugs/doubts and hopefully we can see it running soon!
- Good luck with market making, wish the best for it!
- Ill test it out. Last year Citadel didn't had a gateway within BitShares UI, so I haven't played around mining/XMR for a while.

Many thanks for replies!

Chee®s

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: BBF Asking to be Elected as Approved Spokesperson
« on: January 09, 2019, 06:49:09 am »
Quote from: bitcrab on January 08, 2019, 05:33:10 am
support.

I am aware what BBT will do according to this WP is important to Bitshares Community.

+5!

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] - A bounty based smartcoin marketing campaign
« on: January 09, 2019, 06:45:53 am »
Quote from: Thul3 on December 09, 2018, 09:01:41 pm
Just some example based on global traffic on websites according to alexa.


global rank

~4.700 Bittrex volume  $27 Million
~6.000 Poloniex volume  $29 Million
~7.300 Yobit volume  $15 Million
~13.000 kraken volume  $120 Million
~13.000 upbit volume  $151 Million
~28.000 gate.io volume  $36 Million
~34.000 livecoin volume  $10 Million
~46.000 btc alpha volume    $3 Million


Now have a look at the global traffic rank according to alexa of the proposed exchanges

~170.000 Sistemkoin $59 Million
~No Data IDAX  $282 Million
~46.000 LAToken  $63 Million
~399.000 RightBTC  $126 Million
~46.000 Cointiger $115 Million

Based on that Data you can clearly see that non of the bottom exchanges could even compete with Livecoin.I would even claim all would even lose the comparing against BTC-Alpha massivly which has Rank 87 and a trading volume of $3 Million.

LaToken has a fake volume generated by the exchange itself + numerous complaints through listings reported in Japan.

What is the number and what is the reality are 2 completely different things, and I suggest before anyone proceed with burning the funds based on Google research without a single interaction with mentioned exchange or at least account with some more experience to be proved - just forget about it.

Most important thing, this was about listing of BitUSD and BitCNY, where USD is currently under BS and not eligible for any listing at all.

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General Discussion / Re: Option on the Bitshares Exchange. CALLCNY05MARCH19
« on: January 07, 2019, 05:50:24 pm »
Locked until resolved. Related https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27721.msg327076#msg327076


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General Discussion / Re: Principles of options trading on the Bitshares Exchange
« on: January 07, 2019, 05:49:26 pm »
Quote from: sschiessl on January 07, 2019, 01:53:00 pm
From where I stand, you can lock both until relation to the hack is cleared

Done.

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General Discussion / Re: Principles of options trading on the Bitshares Exchange
« on: January 07, 2019, 01:39:56 pm »
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27709.0 - Double ? Yes, double indeed.

So... Which one to be locked ? Pick one.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: New Prediction Market - CALLUSD31MAR2019
« on: January 07, 2019, 01:38:09 pm »
Quote from: iamredbar on January 07, 2019, 12:40:31 pm
Quote from: Cryptick1 on January 07, 2019, 07:23:35 am
Are you in any way affiliated with the other option -the one that came out on CNY- last week?

No I am not. Feel free to check my account. My other account is iamredbar10.

Can confirm its unrelated. He just joined BitShares 2 months ago, and was boarded by me.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: BBF Asking to be Elected as Approved Spokesperson
« on: January 04, 2019, 03:46:07 am »
Quote from: Brekyrself on January 04, 2019, 03:10:31 am
Any update to the legal council?  Last update I recall the legal opinion was completed however not shared with anyone?  Are all the exchanges basically giving NDA's?  Possible to list what exchanges have open communication to have BTS listed?

This is a good worker, just seems there has been a fall off in communication with some of the projects.

- Legal opinion letter was available at BitFest few months ago in Amsterdam if you were interested to follow up.
- Bittrex has a ball at their court atm and they are stretching re-activation, our side done their deed. Yes, all the exchanges has their own type/view of Agreement and not all consist with NDA (most of them does).
- There is another bounty/worker that is currently looking up listing for CNY and USD, but along few proposals BTS came as an offer in between (for some of top 30 CMC rated exchanges that are being negotiated atm). Listings are between 5 and 15BTC per token, so it's gonna take a while to select/choose exchange with most realistic liquidity/trading volume from those offers. Some of them are pumping themselves...


Hope my replies were satisfying.

@xeroc

 I believe that "Spokesperson" worker was wrongly named/defined and this is much better and more fitting proposal from BBF than previous one. Am I on the point ?

This is finally replacement for "legal opinion" and "spokesperson"? If yes, then I personally support this worker for option 3) aka "Approval for the entire 12 months".

If not, please clarify more. Thanks!

Chee®s



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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker] HackTheDEX.io -- a BitShares Bug Bounty Program
« on: January 04, 2019, 02:19:23 am »
Quote from: Customminer on January 03, 2019, 02:42:42 pm
Bump. Waiting on payout from HTD WP for 3 reported issues. Anyone else submitted anything?



I suggest you buzz Ryan R. Fox on Telegram. I know they had problem with email setup on that form on the website and not receiving any emails for some time.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: Option on the Bitshares Exchange. CALLCNY05MARCH19
« on: December 31, 2018, 03:28:36 pm »
Quote from: sschiessl on December 31, 2018, 12:03:33 pm
Quote from: Neych on December 31, 2018, 11:16:10 am
Quote from: sschiessl on December 31, 2018, 10:47:26 am
The issuer needs to appear hear and explain his ties to the OL hack and explain the on-chain truth.

Please refrain from further advertising this until then.

The Issuer has no relation to the  OL hack.
You can get acquainted with the history described by me above and draw your own conclusions. Sorry, I can add nothing more to this.
In my opinion, the money stolen from OL  should rather be sought in the OL itself. (only my opinion)

Please see clockwork remarks. I also don't understand what exactly you tried to explain, please reformulate.

Please dont reformulate,  but just reply straight to the question. What is your relation to oliverstone ?

Chee®s

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Worker Proposal] CITADEL Desktop 2019
« on: December 31, 2018, 06:29:55 am »
Quote from: oxarbitrage on December 29, 2018, 04:02:44 pm
I think the bitshares blockchain, if the situation allows to do it, should fund this and other similar front ends for bitshares. IMHO specific and different software interacting with bitshares will get a greater number of people from different areas.

There will be people that will not use the reference ui to trade but maybe microdex, people that will not use the cli wallet but prefer for example citadel desktop and so on.

I like qt as it is cross platform, i was also thinking myself on a c++ cli wallet front end with qt. The initial idea i have is to interact with an rpc exposed cli_wallet backend, very basic. we can talk more about this.

We need to consider that a front end is always capable of making money by referring or registering users. So, the blockchain can maybe have some sort of "startup worker" that will give the worker a fixed X amount of bitusd(or whatever) and some bts to be used as faucet money.

In exchange bitshares will just request that the code is released under MIT. It will encourage workers to market their own products. The shareholders will of course :) only vote for the startups that will bring more benefit to the whole.

Just an idea ;)

By the way, you should post some screenshots so people can easy check what citadel is about.

Its amazing piece of software, just huge dissapointment when it comes to that Stealth tab where you can create account but cannot top the funds for months now... I was so happy to see that part coming to life. Anyway, great job with Citadel, and if you wanna really get some Monero mining customers, you do need to invest some real monero from that mining into the markets on the dex, or its not going.

Or at least provide withdrawals for monero after successful mining.

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: Why Need BSIP For Everything?
« on: December 31, 2018, 06:22:47 am »
Quote from: armin on December 30, 2018, 05:16:44 pm
Quote from: pc on December 30, 2018, 09:52:00 am
IMO all witnesses should provide feeds that are based on the same underlying principles. It is a good thing to define these principles in the form of BSIPs, and let the witnesses handle the details themselves.

For example, if some witnesses follow BSIP-42 and some don't, there is the danger that the median feed jumps back and forth between two values that are relatively far apart. This would probably disrupt the markets and would also increase the danger of a global settlement.

True, this happened earlier when some witnesses were providing crazy high feeds and some were providing normal feeds. There should be some clear consensus on what the terms "feed" and "mssr" mean. I think mssr is quite obvious, but feed had recently been redefined to something else, which is dangerous to the system 

EDIT: Actually, if some witnesses disagreed with BSIP42, they could feed much lower than the "normal" price to offset the high feeds. This is the meaning of decentralization. You are still correct that the feed would jump, but this problem is solved by having more delegates

Unfortunately its not. Because there was plenty of examples where witnesses would be voted-in by specific proxies and then they would have to comply with proxy terms of price feed (how bitUSD met blackswan). So, more expense to the blockchain that will not provide variety (as you suggest) of price feeds, but even more establish centralization of individuals is not a solution in my opinion.

Quite correct in mathematical way that more delegates would be solving that, but IF they are only independent from sometime very wrong proxy request or to define more strong BSIP on limits of the feed configuration so they can all apply to the same matter. Now only first case where independent witnesses would be really decentralized, the other one is just again delegated and i don't know why everybody has a problem with it.

dPOS is not decentralized proof of stake, but DELEGATED one. Proxy delegates tasks to a witness. Witness delegates blocks to the chain. Committee delegates fees to the chain. Etc.

In my personal (non-biased) opinion - it's not a problem of technology, it's a problem of human error and inability to agree/unite as ecosystem --> hence why BSIP has to be written and in both cases (goes good or bad) - its well documented.

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General Discussion / Re: Question To All Active Witnesses #2
« on: December 29, 2018, 07:51:24 am »
Quote from: pluswave on December 29, 2018, 04:45:25 am
I totally agree with Alex, and this is more important: witnesses just obey the rules defined by share holders.

defined by the consensus and voted in by shareholders.

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General Discussion / Re: Why no public announcement from witnesses who changed MSSR to 105% on bitcny ?
« on: December 28, 2018, 07:01:24 pm »
Quote from: Thul3 on December 28, 2018, 06:43:27 pm
I didn't questioned the voting but the execution from witnesses without informing the community.
There should be at least a 48h prior info on changing the MSSR from all witnesses so traders and other people have time to adjust if needed.

Letting them jump into cold water is not something i consider being trustful and trusting an exchange is a key point for any trader.

How I understand things around here (maybe im wrong), there has never been prior info to anything apart from software updates (e.g pre-scheduled releases of core and ui). Half of the witnesses is not even active on forums, and some who are active did post announcement.

Example: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26459.msg326778#msg326778

Now, i agree with your concern, but problem is quite more complicated than that. Consensus says that workers needs to be executed when active and if not defined in worker itself (e.g. After activation witnesses will update price feed within 48 hours), then witnesses are free to update their feeds in any reasonable amount of time and without any publication.

Another problem is, that if they haven't updated MSSR upon activation, probably half of them would be voted out by bitcrab, so they didn't had much choice.

I hope this clear more the entire process, you do have a strong point but in delegated proof of stake, where we all chase each other to delegate just an information, what you request is pretty much impossible without proper worker before any update (specific instructions, dates, releases, etc per execution).

Chee®s

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General Discussion / Re: Question To All Active Witnesses
« on: December 28, 2018, 05:41:26 pm »
Quote from: armin on December 28, 2018, 02:37:51 pm
all active witnesses please respond, are you guys going to allow the margin call wall on BTS/CNY to be eaten or will you keep not letting it be eaten?

Currently MSSR changed to 105% instead of 110%, this tells me you don't want it to be eaten?

If you decrease feed, it means you want it to be eaten.

Please answer:

1) Yes, I want the wall to be eaten
 
2) No, I don't want the wall to be eaten

BSIP41 was written and Worker was voted in, by community and proxies.

More info here:

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27599.0

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