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First of all, there are 3 core developer. 2 main + 1 junior. They are busy and without YOU GIVING more info nobody will contact you.
Second of all, and final one, one main dev (abitmore) did instructed you well and nice where and how to ask for help. By being ignorant, you just probably lost interest/rep/credibility with 1 of them.

Take a look at here if you wanna discuss more:



P.S. Admin/Moderator please lock this thread and move it to trash. Thanks in advance.

Voted. But you missed your first block. Please check.

Many many thanks! Did a rookie mistake and pasted in config wrong key (not signing one). Thx for voting in and helping out! It's fixed.

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1344001ms th_a       witness.cpp:181               block_production_loo ] Generated block #18054275 with timestamp 2018-06-10T03:22:24 at time 2018-06-10T03:22:24

Hello BitShares Community and respectful holders!

I've spent some time last few weeks being busy, but finally got witness running in Testnet.

I'm currently running following testnet infrastructure:

Public Testnet API @ wss:// (/ws & /wss available)

ISP: Vultr
Location: Dallas, USA
CPU: 6 core
RAM: 16 GB
HDD: SSD 200 GB x2 (SoftRaid Mirror)
Bandwidth: 5TB
rDNS ->
DDOS Enabled (/w reporting)

System Configuration:
Debian 8 (x64) Jessie /w Boost 1.63.0 (built from source using multi-thread for it + no need for updates to PATH)

Witness Block Producer @ uknown

ISP: Vultr
Location: Chicago, USA
CPU: 2 core
Bandwidth: 3TB
IP: (Feel free to do some pen-testing, its released on purpose)
rDNS ->
DDOS Enabled (/w reporting)

System configuration:
Will be released in tutorial called "Witness Protection Program" (SteemIt, WLS and here) after the pen-testing is done and review from the other parties who have interest in such content.

Witness Account Name: apt-cipher
Witness Account ID: 1.2.22682
Witness ID: 1.6.83
URL for Witness: - This is dummy/non-existing url just for the testnet/test witness purpose.

DISCLAIMER: You have raw IP access for test scans/attacks. It's not even hidden behind ptpp.

Appreciate all upcoming feedback and thank you for your support!


Taco thanks for reply,

I'll try one more time and i think we are on a good way of understanding each other wishes and concerns.

- 1) "The trivial interpretation is that BBF recognizes that the Move Institute exists. I am not sure what value this brings so this interpretation is probably incorrect."

It's not that trivial.

Currently BBF is managing worker escrows and specifically legalization process with Paul Hastings. I do believe that just random self-claim to be another Foundation around the blockchain can harm their current work of legalization process, so yes we seek TRIVIAL approval for a START.

From my experience in the past, when we got ownership we were FUDed like we done something wrong, so this time, we are not repeating that same trivial "mistake".

- 2) "A more substantive interpretation might be" - We don't ask for this, but why not ?

a) Slovenia is EU top regulated crypto country. Maybe BBF can learn something from us as well, not just other way around.

b) BBF declared initially position on the blockchain ... to "grow, advocate and advertise BitShares" - Its also a responsibility, and now we are part of that responsibility BBF has. BBF had great help of xeroc and others to have tools and be able to do what is doing today, I don't see why we can't.

c) Since it's self-claimed foundation and there is no other entity to do so, I don't see the problem unless BBF would be hiding something, and i'm sure they don't - Accounting/Protocols/Practices from the Foundation SHOULD BE 100% transparent, so there is no legal risks.

- 3) "Perhaps a middle ground interpretation..."

That would be the best, but its not up to us only what we seek.

I wish situation was that simple how you are trying to present it, but it's not. Keep in mind that this is invitation for Collaboration to BBF. Collaboration means involvement of both parties, and we can't seek for nothing until other party ACCEPT such Invite.

So, will it be a), b), c) or mix of all three and maybe d) its up to Move Institute and BBF to decide, if and once BBF accept offer.

But one thing is certain - I'm 100% sure we can do more as collaborators rather than competitive individuals. My 2 cents.

$10k just for the domain bitshares.exchanges is way to expensiv.

I don't see a single dime spent on real marketing .

A simple domain name like bithsares.exchanges brings nothing if it won't be promoted so i can't see the value of $10k for that domain.

I also don't understand why nobody else is stepping in and asking why the domain is so overpriced as it basicly has no value
i asked the same question here

@xeroc had statement that domain is purchased directly from the owner - that mean it was not available for regular public sale. It's nothing strange, since I personally know the guy who acquired for that same purpose -> Reselling it to well known, and potentially interested party in the future.

From another perspective, being someone involved in legal matters around having BitShares in Slovenia and Thailand... separation of Wallet from original in manners such as can be legally very bold move, helping to present blockchain and technology ONLY, leaving .exchange as independent dApp driven by Community.

Just my thoughts on this, that's all.


I believe DL is reiterating that while this project seeks to support the bitshares network no matter what, it does not represent the community without an explicit vote of approval. 

In political science this phenomenon is known as "mandate".  The way in which democracies select their representatives.

More background -
In particular-
"The concept of a government having a legitimate mandate to govern via the fair winning of a democratic election is a central idea of representative democracy. New governments who attempt to introduce policies that they did not make public during an election campaign are said not to have a legitimate mandate to implement such policies."

Thanks John. Some may say BitShares is not a true democratic Governance system because some individuals have more say.  Nevertheless, every vote COUNTS, and nothing goes without mandate (voting).  BTS has separation of powers like modern sovereign nations - Governance (Witness, Committee, Proxies)... Pretty much Democracy from the school book.

So yes, we seek approval and acknowledgement from its current elected Government and People of BitShares.

I think that it is excellent to have another party that can manage escrow of worker proposals, and possibly other endeavors.  I welcome this effort.

Yet there is a part of the release that is very unclear to me

Our primary focus is drawing upon all the principles and needs of having such foundations, bringing more true meaning and concept of decentralization. Zavod Premik Institute will empower the Community and extend the original BitShares Blockchain Foundation mission objectives:– to grow, promote, and advocate the BitShares Blockchain worldwide, in full spirit of the original Distributed Autonomous Community (DAC), and in doing so, grow and build the powers of the BitShares Ecosystem in full collaboration, if BitShares Blockchain Foundation choose to accept this offer.

What is the offer?

The Institute can pursue any of these goals independent of the BBF and the stakeholders.

Many thanks for welcoming support.

About unclear part - I'm non-native English, so longer sentences can be an issue to properly construct them, but here it goes... We are saying that we will follow steps of the Foundation, mission objectives and obey/apply with existing rules around the blockchain. We are asking Foundation for recognition of us as another Foundation, since they were the beginning of all. All tools for accounting and current work they are doing, if we gonna continue, we will do their way. - In simple words, Unity of Voice and Actions are something we are looking here for. 2 Foundations doing what they want without agreement and simple basic rules would be just more Chaos to "decentralization".

And re - independent of the BBF and Stakeholders - We can pursue, and as you can see, we are doing it for months in different ways and specific needs community/blockchain has at the moment, but in the end we can only REALISE it if the Stake-Holders make approval once Worker is up. For that at the very own bottom of this publication, for clearing up question like this, there is paragraph that says clearly:

"BTS stake-holders are the decision makers around BitShares Blockchain by their vote, and that, neither the BitShares Blockchain Foundation, nor the owner of any domain related to BitShares (including will never have the authority to outweigh such decisions.".

Hope my answer was more clear than publication, and one more time sorry if the clarity of it is not enough. We will try best to answer all questions you may have.



Zavod Premik – ‘Move’ Institute: Expansão para Fundação BitShares - trazendo diversificação, construindo na descentralização

É um prazer informar todos, que trazemos um novo instituto e entidade sem fins lucrativos para apoiar o Blockchain BitShares: Move Institute. tem vindo a trabalhar com o Move Insititute desde novembro de 2017, e estamos agora prontos para fornecer mais informações para toda a Comunidade.
Zavod Premik (traduz-se como “Move Institute”) é uma organização sem fins lucrativos fundada em 2005 com base em Murska Sobota, Eslovénia - Um país onde a Criptoeconomia tem estatuto legal, desenhada em alguns dos principais intervenientes da indústria. Em alguns círculos, a Eslovénia está a ser chamada de “Silicon Valley of Crypto”. -

Não deve ser confundido como um substituto, uma alternativa ou um concorrente à BitShares Blockchain Foundation (BBF) que foi estabelecida em 2015.
O nosso principal foco é fazer uso de todos os princípios e necessidades de ter tais fundações, trazendo mais verdadeiro significado e conceito de descentralização.

Zavod Premik Institute fortalecerá a Comunidade e estenderá os objetivos da missão original da BitShares Blockchain Foundation: – para crescer, promover e defender o Blockchain BitShares mundialmente, em pleno espírito da original Comunidade Autónoma Distribuída - Distributed Autonomous Community (DAC), e ao fazê-lo, crescer e construir as competências do Ecossistema BitShares em plena colaboração, se a BitShares Blockchain Foundation escolher aceitar esta oferta.

Estado e registo das atividades de Zavod Premik em torno do blockchain com

- Zavod Premik é um parceiro e forneceu alguns investimentos para a desde novembro de 2017. Para fins de transparência, esta é uma digitalização da página da assinatura do contrato, e o documento completo pode ser consultado por qualquer parte interessada: <- Ver acordo completo.

Os seguintes pontos resumem as atividades de Zavod Premik com APAsia.Tech em torno do blockchain BitShares:

  • Fundos para a realização de negociação de arbitragem e liquidez de bitAsset na DEX, que resultou em retornos para sustentar as atividades futuras, com pleno apoio ao  DEXBot em qualquer aspeto técnico possível que possa.
  • Fundos para a criação de infraestruturas iniciais, incluindo a doação de nós RPC públicos da Eslovénia e financiamento de nós VPS, na ajuda como parceiro para para construir a reputação e ser capaz de apresentar competências e serviços disponíveis em/ao redor do blockchain.
  • Nó RPC inicial na Eslovénia (Auto-financiado):
  • Membros da Zavod Premik incluem académicos, economistas, financeiros e também individualmente envolvidos com em alavancar esta parceria para criar e liderar, por exemplo, ser o primeiro site BitShares Slovenia e carteira local, versão beta que pode ser vista em com a posição onde DEX é negócio legal e não é tributável, onde a mineração é (Witness localizada na Eslovénia seria pagar imposto sobre o rendimento).
  • Os mesmos académicos, executaram em colaboração com um workshop realizado em Zagreb, Croácia no início deste ano. <- ligação
  • Deu-nos a estrutura e a ideia para o seguinte, que pode atuar quando múltiplas partes estão envolvidas e ideias para trabalhadores expandiram. A intenção de criar uma rede descentralizada funcional de membros de equipa que pode ser bem coordenada, um dos principais propósitos para a criação de gestão de contas caucionadas através de Zavod, sem fins lucrativos, de forma aos acionistas, Comité, Witnesses e Comunidade em geral podem ser bem assegurados sobre os fundos sendo segura e gerida com contabilidade pública e transparente, como a BitShares Blockchain Foundation tem em funcionamento. provide the escrow management to implement ideas expressed

Avançando, os planos de expansão do Blockchain BitShares em colaboração com o Instituto incluiem;

  • Tornar públicas as informações do domínio, listada como uma entidade fins lucrativos. O instituto Zavod Premik abre caminho para https://BitShares.Org (juntamente com a Carteira de Referência) ter um novo lar, a Eslovénia, sendo um lugar que pode até mesmo ser registado para o tipo de estatuto legal de Classe Mundial necessário para atingir o top 20 global da Criptoeconomia por capitalização de mercado.
  • Gerir as questões de cauções e ser parte confiável em torno de gestão dos fundos dos trabalhadores do blockchain, de sentido e organizado, estruturado e de forma legalmente regulamentada para que as empresas ou indivíduos possam receber o pagamento. As propostas de trabalhador podem então ser consolidadas para a votação da Comunidade, o fornecedor ter mais liberdade na entrega e dado como maior transparência.

Expansão Global

Veja a imagem aqui de uma lista de negócios online de Zavod Premik. Partes interessantes destacadas.

Ligação original ->

Tendo uma geografia e território completamente singulares relativamente à da BitShares Blockchain Foundation, a Zavod Premik, sem fins lucrativos, está particularmente bem posicionada para trabalhar entre países regulamentados da UE ou fora da UE, outras partes da Europa do Sul, juntamente com nós próprios para abranger a Ásia.

Organização do Caos Descentralizado com Transparência

Colocar tais fundações/organizações sem fins lucrativos/institutos, dentro de nosso eco-sistema Blockchain, fá-lo deliberadamente mais descentralizado, com menos caos - mais organização, assuntos de administração, opções de contabilidade, peritos legais, académicos, economistas - são o motivo pelo qual irá aumentar o apoio e o impulso para a BBF, e para trazer para BitShares um patamar mais elevado para a arena global.

Aviso detentores de BTS e a BBF:

O porta-voz da BitShares Blockchain Foundation é atualmente Annemieke Dirkes, e deve-se notar aqui que esta oferta não interfere nem falaremos em público e pretendemos ser outro porta-voz para o Blockchain BitShares, Fundação, Comunidade ou de outra forma, sem ter sido eleito primeiramente.

Os detentores de participações BTS são os decisores em torno do Blockchain BitShares com o seu voto, e que, nem a BitShares Blockchain Foundation, nem o proprietário de qualquer domínio relacionado com BitShares (incluindo nunca terá a autoridade para prevalecer sobre tais decisões.

Zavod Premik: širitev k Bitshares Fundation, s sodelovanjem do boljše decentralizacije

Z velikim zadovoljstvom vas obveščamo, da smo z namenom nadaljnega razvoja Bitshares tehnologije veriženja podatkovnih blokov k sodelovanju povabili neprofitno organizacijo Zavod Premik. in Zavod Premik sta začela sodelovati meseca novembra 2017, danes pa podrobneje predstavljata način in obliko v kateri bosta zasledovala cilje Bitshares.
Zavod Premik  je neprofitna organizacija, ki je bila ustanovljena 2005 leta v Murski Soboti, v Sloveniji, kjer so kriptovalute precej uveljavljene in v kateri so aktivna nekatera velika podjetja, ki stavijo na uporabo tehnologije veriženja podatkovnih blokov. Nekateri zato Slovenijo uvrščajo med  “Silicijevo dolino kritptovalut”. -

Naše sodelovanje ne predstavlja zamenjavo, alternativo ali konkurenco ustanovi Bitshares Blockchain Fundation (BBF), ustanovljeni leta 2015.
Naše aktivnosti so usmerjene k zadovoljevanju potreb tovrstnih ustanov ob zasledovanju koncepta  decentralizacije.
Glavni cilj Zavoda Premik je okrepiti skupnost in uresničevati temeljne cilje Bitshares tehnologije veriženja podatkovnih  blokov. Zavod Premik se bo zavzemal za rast, promocijo in pravno zaščito  Bitshares tehnologije veriženja podatkovnih blokov širom sveta, v duhu skupnosti Distributed Autonomous Community (DAC), ter tako okrepiti in širiti ekosistem v sodelovanju z ustanovo Bitshares Blockchain Foundation.
Status in sodelovanje Zavoda Premik z

-   “Zavod Premik, Murska Sobota” kot partner in soinvestitor projektov, sta novembra 2017 podpisala pogodbo o sodelovanju z namenom razvoja in promocije Bitshares tehnologije.

Partnerja si bosta prizadevala izvajati naslednje naloge:

Načrt za širitev Bitshares tehnologije veriženja podatkovnih blokov vključuje tudi:
  • objavo informacije o domeni izvede neprofitna organizacija. Zavod Premik, Murska Sobota si bo prizadeval nadaljevati zastavljeno pot, ki jo utira in omogočiti “World-class” status, ki je nujen za uvrstitev v top 20 kriptovalut z najvišjo tržno kapitalizacijo;
  • izvajanje depozitnih poslov ter kontrola in menedžment delovnih sredstev podatkovnih blokov. Organizirano in ob izpolnjevanju določenih pogojev omogočamo sodelovanje posameznikov ali podjetij ter zagotavljamo plačilo za njihovo delo. Delovni predlogi s strani posameznikov se lahko povežejo v skupnega, si tako zagotovijo večjo svobodo pri izvedbi in hkrati zagotovijo večjo transparentnost izvedbe predloga, ki ga je odobrila skupnost.

Globala  širitev
Nekaj osnovni podatkov o Zavodu Premik je na voljo na naslednji povezavi:

Edinstvena geografska in pravno formalna pozicija ustanove BitShares Blockchain Foundation in Zavoda Premik omogoča idealne pogoje za sodelovanje med državami članicami Evropske unije in ostalih držav, še posebej držav iz jugovzhodne Evrope ( Balkana) in večjega dela jugovzhodne Azije.

Organizirani, decentralizirani in transparentni kaos

Organizacijska struktura, sestavljena iz neprofitnih organizacij, omogoča višji nivo decentralizacije blockchain ekosistema z manj kaosa. Prispevek vključenih organizacij, pravnih strokovnjakov, akademikov, ekonomistov, računovodij bi pomenil dodano vrednost ustanovi BitShares Blockchain Foundation s ciljem okrepiti Bitshares na globalnom nivoju.

Opomba za imetnike kriptovalute BTS in ustanovi BitShares Blockchain Foundation

Ker naloge tiskovne predstavnice ustanove BitShares Blockchain Foundation trenutno izvaja Annemieke Dirkes je pomembno poudariti, da naša ponudba ne ovira njene pozicije. Tudi v prihodnosti se ne bomo, brez da bi upoštevali pravila, predstavljali kot predstavnik Bitshares blockchain-a ali imenovali tiskovnega predstavnika.
Imetniki kriptovalute BTS so edini, ki z glasovanjem sprejemajo odločitve v zvezi z Bitshares blockchain-om. Na sprejete odločitve ne morejo vplivati ne BitShares Blockchain Foundation ustanova, katerikoli lastnik domene, ki je povezana z Bitshares, niti lastnik domene .

Zavod Premik-‘移动’学院:向BitShares比特股基金会的推进 – 营造多样化,基于非集权化

很荣幸向大家介绍我们开启的一项新的非盈利机构和实体以此来支持比特股基金区块链:Move Institute(移动学院)。
@ apasia.tech自2017年11月起一直与Move Institute合作,此时我们已准备好为整个社区提供更多信息。
Zavod Premik(译为“Move Institute”)是一家非盈利性组织,成立于2005年,总部位于斯洛文尼亚,穆尔斯卡索博塔--一个加密货币拥有合法地位的国家,吸引了业内一些重要的参与者。在一些圈子里,斯洛文尼亚被称为 '加密硅谷' -

这里请不要与把它混淆成2015年成立的BitShares Blockchain基金会(BBF)的代替品或竞争对手。
我们的首要重点是使用所有类似基金会的基本原则和需求,创造出更多<em>分散化,</em真正的意义和概念。 Zavod Premik 协会将会授权于社区并延伸原BitShares Blockchain基金会的使命目标: - 基于Distributed Autonomous Community (DAC)(最初的分布式自治社区)的全副首创精神,在全球范围内扩张,推广和倡导BitShares区块链,并通过此行动,在BitShares Blockchain 基金接受此提议的前提下,在充分协作的基础上开拓并建立比特股生态系统的影响力。
Zavod Premik和@ apasia.tech在区块链范围的状态和记录:

-   Zavod Premik属于合作伙伴,自2017年11月起已为@ apasia.tech提供了一些投资。为增加真实透明度,以下是一份协议签名页面的扫描件,任何感兴趣方也可以对完整的文档进行详细考察: <- 访问完整文件

以下几点总结了Zavod Premik与APAsia.Tech围绕BitShares blockchain(比特股区块链)开展的活动:

  • 公开使whois.com的bitshares.org域名信息,名为非营利性组织的上市实体。Zavod Premik Institute为 https://BitShares.Org(连同参考钱包一起)建立了一个新的住所铺路,斯洛文尼亚成为了一个可以获得达到20强所需的世界级法律地位的地方全球加密货币按市值计算。
  • 管理第三方支付事宜并成为值得信赖的团队,管理来自区块链的员工资金,从某种    意义上来说,就是有组织地,结构合理并前卫的方式来确保公司或个人能够获得报酬。然后可以合并工人提案以进行社区投票,提供者的交付更加自由,并获得更大的透明度。

请看以下来自Zavod Premik的在线商业目录列表的屏幕截图。颜色突出部分为有趣的部分


原文链接 ->

非盈利的Zavod Premik拥有与BitShares Blockchain基金会独一无二的地理位置和领域,因此特别适合在欧盟或非欧盟监管国家和南欧其他地区之间开展工作,连同我们本身一起覆盖整个亚洲。


将我们的区块链生态系统放置在基金会/非营利组织/研究机构之中,可以使区块链更加分散化,减少混乱 - 更多组织,行政事务,会计方式,法律专家,学者,经济学家是有原因的,这些将整体性地支持和推动BBF,并将BitShares带入全球更高的舞台。

请注意 BTS 持有人 和 BBF:

目前BitShares区块链基金会的发言人是Annemieke Dirkes,在这里要注意的是,此条约既不会干涉,也不应该公开发言人,并声称自己是BitShares区块链,基金会,社区或其他方面的另一位发言人,而没有先前被选定过。
BTS利益相关方是在BitShares Blockchain通过他们投票的决策者,为此, 不管是BitShares Blockchain基金会还是任何与BitShares(包括相关领域的所有者都无权超越此类决定。

Zavod Premik – ‘Move’ Institute: Expansion to BitShares Foundations – bringing diversification, building on decentralization

It is a pleasure to let everyone know we bring a new non-profit institute and entity to support the BitShares Blockchain: Move Institute. has been working with Move Institute since November 2017, and we are now ready to provide further information for the entire Community.

Zavod Premik (translates as “Move Institute”) is a non-profit organization founded in 2005 based in Murska Sobota, Slovenia - A country where Cryptocurrency has legal status, drawing in some of the major players in the industry. In some circles, Slovenia is being called the "Silicon Valley of Crypto"

Not to be confused as a replacement, alternative or competitor to the BitShares Blockchain Foundation (BBF) which was established in 2015.

Our primary focus is drawing upon all the principles and needs of having such foundations, bringing more true meaning and concept of decentralization. Zavod Premik Institute will empower the Community and extend the original BitShares Blockchain Foundation mission objectives:– to grow, promote, and advocate the BitShares Blockchain worldwide, in full spirit of the original Distributed Autonomous Community (DAC), and in doing so, grow and build the powers of the BitShares Ecosystem in full collaboration, if BitShares Blockchain Foundation choose to accept this offer.

Status and partial record of Zavod Premik activities around the blockchain with

-   Zavod Premik is a partner and has provided some investments to since November 2017. For purposes of transparency this is a scan of the agreement signing page, and the full document may be perused by any interested party: - View full agreement

Following points summarize activities of Zavod Premik with APAsia.Tech around BitShares blockchain:

- Moving forwards, the plans for expansion of the BitShares Blockchain in collaboration with the institute include:

  • To make information of domain public, as a listed entity under the non-profit. Zavod Premik Institute paves the way for  https://BitShares.Org (along with the Reference Wallet) to have a new home, Slovenia being a place it can even be registered for the kind of World-Class legal status needed to reach top 20 global cryptocurrency by market capitalization.
  • To manage escrow matters and be trusted party around for management of the worker funds from the blockchain, in sense and organized, structured and legally regulated fashion that companies or individuals can get paid. Worker proposals can then be consolidated for Community voting, the provider having more freedom in delivery and given with greater transparency.

See the screenshot here from an online business directory listing of Zavod Premik. Interesting parts highlighted.

Global Expansion

Original link -

Having a completely unique geography and territory to that of BitShares Blockchain Foundation, the non-profit Zavod Premik is particularly well positioned to work in-between EU or non-EU regulated countries, other parts of South Europe, along with ourselves to cover Asia.

Organizing Decentralized Chaos with Transparency

Placing such foundations/non-profits/institutes, within our Blockchain eco-system, makes it deliberately more decentralized, with less chaos – more organization, administration matters, accounting options, legal experts, academics, economists – are the reason that will increase support and boost to the BBF, and to bring BitShares a step higher onto the global arena.

Notice BTS holders and the BBF:

Spokesperson of the BitShares Blockchain Foundation is currently Annemieke Dirkes, and it is to be noted here this offer does not interfere nor shall we speak in public and claim to be another Spokesperson for the BitShares Blockchain, Foundation, Community or otherwise, without having first been elected to do so.

BTS stake-holders are the decision makers around BitShares Blockchain by their vote, and that, neither the BitShares Blockchain Foundation, nor the owner of any domain related to BitShares (including will never have the authority to outweigh such decisions.

Just heard:

Announced here:

Very nice, responsive, slick and fast. :)

On top of it, there is not even a single error/warning in Chrome console on load and play around :))))

General Discussion / Re: Is Dascoin Real Or Not?
« on: May 29, 2018, 08:00:53 am »
I'm still on the fence with regards to DasCoin.

Their tech writeups , the people they've approached and their partnerships say legit.

Their marketing work, corporate structure and press say scam.

Still can't decide.

Far as i'm concerned agree with each and every word said. Basically their tech side and approach is super legit, while their corporate representation of it smells like a scam.

General Discussion / Re: Is Dascoin Real Or Not?
« on: May 01, 2018, 06:29:26 am »
Dascoin is a new coin built with the Graphene toolkit and is tagged as the Currency Of Trust

It plans to launch DasPay( an app that can you can spend your crypto to over 60 million merchants worldwide) in June of 2018 in partnership with Carta (the company that owns Visa and Mastercard.

As well it plans to launch an MLM based ecosystem on the blockchain.

The Bitshares Foundation spokesperson spoke at the Dascoin conference in London but I see no news about Dascoin on this forum.

Is Dascoin for real?  and has any possible potential?

1) DASCoin has been developed by Cro/Srb team.
2) DASCoin is having heavy investment company behinds it for over a year.
3) DASCoin has been supportive towards new Graphene Foundation (non-profit) founded by Ms./Mrs. Dirkes, CEO of Blockchain Projects BV.
4) DASCoin have 2 speakers scheduled for Event organized by Jerry "bitcrab" in Shanghai.

I'm sure publication from Blockchain Projects BV will follow up, so stay tuned, but for now...

DASCoin is very real and there is no way that anyone from BBF would risk reputation to support a scammer.

Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy: bitcrab - make the ecosystem grow
« on: April 03, 2018, 04:16:30 pm »
great competence happen in EOS node voting. I feel we can also use the witness voting to help BTS ecosystem.

proxy bitcrab would like to adjust the metrics on voting witnesses:

1.provide stable and reliable witness node, low missed block rate.
2.update in time
3.provide good enough price feed.
4.provide API server, the higher performance, the better.
5. help to test code positively

from 5th April, proxy bitcrab will not support witnesses that do not provide API server.

Great initiative, btw. Finally someone to prove still that your salary depends on your work and to make everyone be equal and fair to take out extra hundred from those 6k monthly earnings each have. Obviously its working only when stake holder that witnesses and worker proposals payouts are depending from make demands. Community was ignored many times with answering to this question... "Why does Witness well overpaid not running API node each?".

Many many thanks for your efforts, investment and support to the BitShares.

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