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It doesn't load for me.. Can you upload it somewhere else please? I saw some bits of text, this is some kind of HTLC proposal?

OK..I have emailed it to you..

but also try the link again, the web preview is working

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This was originally a MS Word doc but somehow most of the formatting info got lost when converting to a PDF..!!  If someone wants to host a the original doc I will email it

Anyway here's the link


https://www.pdf-archive.com/2019/08/16/prepo2discussion/

and password =  Oduesp2


This is just a general outline to get the thoughts down on paper


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General Discussion / Re: bad news for Binance,good news for BTS
« on: August 16, 2019, 07:37:38 am »
https://weibo.com/binance?profile_ftype=1&is_all=1#1565172082015

MARKET AND PROMOTE BITSHARES AS SAFE HAVEN

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CEX Adventures continue....


https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/08/chinese-ponzi-scheme-worth-billions-could-be-causing-bitcoin-selloff/

Chinese Ponzi Scheme Worth BIllions Could Be Causing Bitcoin Selloff

    The 70,000 BTC PlusToken ponzi scheme, worth $3 billion, appears to be impacting bitcoin prices. 
    Traders are reporting regular 100 BTC sells on Binance and other exchanges dating back to July.

 PLUS Token was the biggest Chinese ponzi scam in history, skimming 70,000 BTC and 800,000 ETH from millions of investors.

Data collected by auditing firm Peckshield shows that money began flowing from PlusToken’s wallet in early July, with about 1000 BTC going to Bittrex and Huobi.

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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/08/binance-kyc-documentation-purportedly-stolen-from-insider-who-assisted-hackers/

The hacker claiming to have accessed tens-of-thousands of know-your-customer (KYC) documents supposedly originating from Binance claims to have obtained the stolen documents by hacking an “insider.”

This person, the hacker claims, facilitated the breach in May which saw 7,000 BTC stolen from the exchange.....

After purportedly tracing the capital flows from the wallet, Platon alleges that the hackers laundered 2,000 BTC through exchanges Bitmex, Yobit, KuCoin, and Huobi.

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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/07/privacy-flaw-exposed-financial-data-for-thousands-of-crypto-loan-users/

A privacy flaw on the crypto lending platform YouHodler exposed millions of records worth of financial data belonging to several thousand clients in a total breach of privacy.

According to the company’s website, YouHodler has processed $10 million in transactions for over 3500 clients and operates in more than 35 countries.

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https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/08/bitfinexs-decentralized-token-exchange-splits-and-rebrands-as-deversifi/

Bitfinex’s Decentralized Token Exchange Splits and Rebrands as DeversiFi


Bitfinex’s decentralized ERC20 token spin-off, Ethfinex has announced a “management buyout” that will see it re-brand and split from the troubled exchange.

With its legal battle to avoid handing over information to the New York Attorney General’s office as part of an $850 million investigation over alleged fraud locked an ongoing rally of legal letters, the cryptocurrency exchange is now seeing another development on the horizon.

Ethfinex will apparently move forward under the management of CEO Will Harbourne and seven other former Bitfinex and Ethfinex staffers, re-branding under the new name DeversiFi. The split will also see the new company wash its hands of involvement with Tokenix, the Initial Exchange Offerings (IEO) platform its team helped set up and run for Bitfinex


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If they can do so to UK clients..what's to stop them from doing the same elsewhere?


https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/08/coinbase-drops-support-for-privacy-oriented-cryptocurrency-zcash-for-uk-users/


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General Discussion / Re: Bitshares Marketing Group
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:03:56 pm »
Bitshares Marketing Group

Telegram: https://t.me/bitshares_marketing
Github: https://github.com/bitshares/marketing/

Relevant links... (in no particular order) ..for historical purposes and easy reference ..in case threads get "lost" with time as they drop  to the lower rungs of the forum.


https://www.howtotoken.com/explained/how-marketing-campaigns-develop-into-global-trends/

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Decentralized 2019 Sponsoring and Partnership
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28557.0

Topic: Marketing: Interviews, Articles and Visibility
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27747.0

Topic: North American BitShares Conference + WCC DEVCON
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28450.0

Topic: Recap: 2019 2nd Global Graphene Blockchain Developer Conference
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28699.0

Topic: [Worker Proposal] - 1.14.209 - SteemFest Sponsorship by Bitshares - Bangkok Nov 6-10, 2019
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28660.0

Topic: Integration of BTS with Wirex
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28313.0

Topic: Article and Brand Marketing on Major News Websites
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28444.0

Toipc: [ioBanker] Announcement For BitShares stakeholders and community members
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28583.0

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https://news.bitshares.org/
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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28821.0
Topic: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28518.msg332901#msg332901

BTS can be marketed and perceived as the Cryptosphere's  most prominent supporter of Women's soccer (or sports in general) .....
a successful global branding campaign like that could arguably grow the market cap by a Billion $ or more by the time of the Olympics. (2020)

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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27733.msg332390#msg332390                 ( Public Goods)

https://cryptopotato.com/bitcoin-soccer-the-rise-of-cryptocurrency-sponsorships-and-partnerships/
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https://decrypt.co/8195/retail-giant-walmart-mulls-centralized-stablecoin
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Topic: bitusd peg
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27733.msg328409#msg328409
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27733.msg328382#msg328382
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Topic: A way to mass adoption: consumer credit
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28605.0
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2019/07/australians-hooked-up-to-pay-for-groceries-with-bitcoin/

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Topic: why not borrowing?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28491.15
https://bitcoinist.com/how-the-mega-rich-buy-their-bitcoin
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Topic: bad news for Binance,good news for BTS
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28870.0
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Topic: Smart coin evolution
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28367.0
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Topic: Market fee sharing for BitAssets
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28212.0
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Topic: What is the reserve pool?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=21731.0
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BitShares Dice Game Smart Contract
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=27763.0
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Topic: Add "close long" feature?
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28211.0
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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 05, 2019, 05:12:53 pm »
How about we add somewhere on the website a text a la:

"Want to refer users to BitShares on a commercial basis? Contact marketing@bitshares.org and we will help you set up with what you need!"

I have no problem buying interested webmasters an LTM (after evaluating their inquiry), either through marketing worker or reference faucet worker.

Although it's a generous sentiment I think that kind of "process" would become a bottleneck in any kind of growth path...By definition when something becomes popular through organic growth...e.g.  "going viral"...it does so BECAUSE there are no gatekeepers.

Moreover it assumes that you will always make the right decision when it comes to "evaluation of their inquiry".  The person or entity you choose ...might be a diamond or may be a dud...That it will get expensive...

We have to keep in mind that BTS and crypto in general is global...therefore multicultural...which means there can be cross-cultural misunderstandings or persepctives, etc and something that is perceived to be a negative character trait on one side may just be considered entrepreneurial zeal on the other..


EXAMPLE:  A young person (not a lot of accumulated assets) who does not have much formal education (by Western standards) but is quite energetic, has good business intuiton and a reputation in his community of being able to get things done through a growing netwok of contacts... and people pay him well..just to help them get through govt.bureaucracy and roadblocks, etc.
{In the US it is formally called being a "consultant"}   ;)

He earned his rep. and popularity because he also happens to be a former high school star and a current huge fan of the sport of CRICKET..... which is VERY popular..mainly in former Commonwealth countries.....So long story short.... he comes across BTS as a result of his curiousity about Bitcoin and then has an idea that would involve BitShares and being able to combine his business with his love of cricket and its worldwide fan base into a global income generating venture...

Do you (or the appraiser) know anything about the history, business, and current state of affairs when it comes to the sport of CRICKET?

Second problem..  his English language skills are limited.. so he will need to pay for an interpreter to explain his ideas to you...

So as you can see...many many different situations can arise to complicate things...change gender, substitute different sport...ping pong, road cycling, archery, rugby, skateboarding, etc..different countries, legal issues..and so on...

"Evaluating an inquiry"  may not be so simple and rejections will always leave a lingering negative reaction..  Better to allow the industrious, creative and  hardworking types earn their LTM for themselves..

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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 05, 2019, 04:58:13 pm »
$100 isn't a lot to ask for LTM. If they can't do that, I doubt they have a legit stream of users to refer.

Keep in mind  $100 is not a lot for YOU....but Bitshares is global...and for many people in countries outside of the US and Europe, Japan, Australia etc.  it is considered a tidy sum relatively speaking...not to mention that you're asking a prospective Member to use that money on a BTS "venture" ...although I'm sure there will be other  competing (and maybe compelling) uses of the money..{living costs, medical biils, education fees, petrol, taxes, etc..etc)  Like any other business this undertaking is a risk that they hope, with sweat equity, will turn out to be income producing..

One may have a "following" because one is rich  (fair weather friends)...but one does not NEED to be rich to have a following...  e,g, most milloinaire athletes come from very modest beginnings and they had "followers" long before they were millionaires on paper..

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https://www.howtotoken.com/explained/how-marketing-campaigns-develop-into-global-trends/
Thanks for the link.
IMHO this should be a dedicated thread.

It reminded me..

Half the world is female --  BTS needs a  different marketing "face or faces" in each region/country

How much was this woman worth to the growth of DASH marketcap...  {currently  #15  965.3 mlllion   (BTS  #56   122.8 million)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqNCLd2r19wpWWQE6yDLOOQ/videos

Her and Fabian talking about Bitshares  basics..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV0le2fBZpQ


If you notice the most highly watched videos are her "How to...."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCFP0p7mOOo    64k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoJOHxQ7Pd4    44k

etc..,,

but her biggest hit was ...HOW TO EARN $$$   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY0OXqo4xeg     213k

People are always hungry to learn how to make a living..

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https://www.howtotoken.com/explained/how-marketing-campaigns-develop-into-global-trends/
Thanks for the link.
IMHO this should be a dedicated thread.


True, it can't hurt ... Because events like the World Cup & Olympics occur only once every 4 years..so not only is it an important, infrequent, GLOBAL branding opportunity but in particular a chance for BitShares to cultivate a brand loyalty within a market segment that has not prejudged BTS..

..and moreover is essentially being ignored, broadly speaking, by the cryptoshphere at the moment...(but not forever)..

Maybe the BTS marketing team will see some merit in this thread..

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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 03, 2019, 06:59:15 pm »
@bitstopia2049 your opinions make perfect sense. This is the correct direction to discuss.

I do agree that we need to find a balance among the parties. It's good to follow the KISS principle (Keep It Stupid Simple), due to this, we need to think twice when adding restrictions.

IMHO it would look better if we don't restrict how much a non-LTM account can earn via referral program, nor restrict when she must upgrade (IMHO it should be decided by herself). It's the potential unlimited income that incentives people to work harder.

Also please be aware when a non-LTM earned enough to upgrade to a LTM, it's possible that her registrar and referrer have earned much more from her. For example, we can define the rule as: non-LTM accounts need to split 80% of their referral earnings to her registrar and referrer, just like 80% of their paid fees would go to the referral program. So this feature would largely benefit current registrars and LTM referrers. We can discuss how much percentage is best.

By the way, would you like to reformat your post by re-adding the missing "[ / quote]"s to improve its readability?

100% agree with the KISS principle!....As seen with "scam proposals"  it is easy to misinterpret rules...(and more costly for the target in a decentralized system)

OK...I see your point about allowing for the potential of unlimited income and giving this type of income earning freedom to non-LTM Members is a powerful incentive..My initial response was focused on the MLM concern..Thul3 indicates it's not a worry.

I could easily foresee the captain or another influential member of the soccer team becoming an expert in BTS features and educating her teammates and inspiring them to do the same.  Maybe she can earn supplemental income from instructional meetups or presenting monthly Webinars to a wider community of family, friends, classmates, co-workers...etc.,  People can be quite creative if given the right opportunity.....(At that point even the team OWNER(S) would welcome a briefing..Ha!)

I think you may have hit upon the right catalyst Abit..!     {Maybe their ambition is even bigger, like buying their own team) 

BitShares just needs at least a local consumer goods retailer or distributor -- to form a partnership where bitCNY--bitUSD -- bitXXX is accepted..

.It's coming anyway, sooner or later whether BTS makes moves or not.
  https://decrypt.co/8195/retail-giant-walmart-mulls-centralized-stablecoin

One successful collaboration is all it takes and other businesses will follow..


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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 03, 2019, 07:09:53 am »
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186

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Currently only LTMs can be referrers. This caused a problem that in order to earn money, you need to invest some money first, IMHO this drives away potential marketers E.G. small bloggers.

This BSIP proposes a protocol change to allow non-LTM accounts to refer new accounts. The referral income that a non-LTM referrer earned will be split to herself, her registrar and her referrer. If she upgrades to LTM, her future referral income will be kept by herself.

Risks:
This change will potentially turn the referral program into a MLM scheme, which could be illegal in some jurisdictions (I am not a layer, please correct me if I'm wrong), although every account has the option to upgrade to LTM to stop sharing new referral income to the registrar and referrer.

support...

Maybe one option to circumvent any MLM concerns is to tag and vest the referral income as a recurring payment towards acquiring  LTM  status?
You mean the blockchain automatically upgrade an account to LTM when she contributed enough to her registrar and referrer due to either self-paid fees or MLM referral income? I guess this is not in the interest of the registrars and referrers (they expect to earn more) thus will harm the whole eco-system.

Yes I'm sure they expect to earn more ..but they can't have it both ways...  Your proposal is based on the assumption that Basic Members can help GROW the BTS ecosystem..

So the choice is to maintain the status quo and get nothing or modify the rules to allow Basic Members to earn referral income...

It is better to get some percentage of an expanding universe of payments versus getting 100% of a static or shrinking system.. 

The registrars and referrers will also benefit from an increased BTS price, market cap, liquidity, smartcoin production, trading volume, etc.,

I think under this proposal that the Basic Member should be limited to EARNING enough referral income to be upgraded to LTM status.  This will at least guarantee that the registrar/referrer would be rewarded with referral income thru that time period..

OR alternatively restrict the upgrade to the Annual Membership which could be modified to allow for earning referral income to be split with the registrar/ referrer for 1 year..

and

If that Basic Member's financial status changes during the period and she can afford to purchase a LTM there is nothing stopping them from establishing a 2nd (or more) account(s)

Maybe their could be two types....LTM  and  LiteM ...to reflect a Basic Members upgrade via referral income..?

One thing.... there has to be clear rules that indicate an exemption from any price increase if the committee decides to raise the price of LTM during the "earning" period ..

and similarly accommodations have to be made if the LTM price is decreased  because BTS is rising so that she does not overpay.

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General Discussion / Re: Allow non-LTM accounts to be referrers?
« on: August 02, 2019, 02:53:54 pm »
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/186

Quote
Currently only LTMs can be referrers. This caused a problem that in order to earn money, you need to invest some money first, IMHO this drives away potential marketers E.G. small bloggers.

This BSIP proposes a protocol change to allow non-LTM accounts to refer new accounts. The referral income that a non-LTM referrer earned will be split to herself, her registrar and her referrer. If she upgrades to LTM, her future referral income will be kept by herself.

Risks:
This change will potentially turn the referral program into a MLM scheme, which could be illegal in some jurisdictions (I am not a layer, please correct me if I'm wrong), although every account has the option to upgrade to LTM to stop sharing new referral income to the registrar and referrer.

support...

Maybe one option to circumvent any MLM concerns is to tag and vest the referral income as a recurring payment towards acquiring  LTM  status?

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https://cointelegraph.com/news/everton-football-club-signs-etoro-as-official-online-trading-partner

Everton Football Club Signs EToro as Official Online Trading Partner


[excerpt]

Everton Football Club of the British Premier League has signed a deal with the crypto-inclusive investment and trading platform eToro. Everton shared news of the partnership in an official announcement on Aug. 1.

As per the report, eToro will now be Everton’s “Official Online Trading Partner”, which will offer advertising for the platform via its marketing assets and matches at home stadium Goodison Park.

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In April, eToro also launched a cryptocurrency exchange for professional traders called eToroX, which is purportedly fully regulated. The exchange supports trading for Bitcoin (BTC), Ether

(ETH), XRP, Dash (DASH), Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and Litecoin (LTC). The new exchange has also launched eight stablecoins backed by eight corresponding national fiat currencies.


Other large-name soccer teams have partnered with cryptocurrency- and blockchain-related organizations over the past year, including Brazilian premier league soccer club Atletico Mineiro,

English Premier League team West Ham United and French soccer club Paris Saint-Germain.

{Crystal Palace FC of the #EPL also}

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THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REPLY !
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https://www.womenssoccerunited.com/world-cup-2019-attendances/

FIFA Women’s World Cup 2019 Attendances.
It has been another record-breaking World Cup in terms of attendances and broadcast figures as the game continues to grow on a global level.

World Cup 2019 attendance overview

Opening match attendance: France 4 – 0 Korea Republic – 45,261
Highest attendance of the tournament: The Final: USA 2-0 Netherlands – 57,900
Lowest attendance of the tournament: Group stage:Cameroon 2-1 New Zealand – 8,009
Highest attendance of the group stage: USA 3 – 0 Chile – 45,594
Total tournament attendance: 1,131,762

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https://www.womenssoccerunited.com/leading-goalscorers-2018-asian-games-womens-football/
Could BiSshares sponsor one of these athlete's local club team ?


https://www.womenssoccerunited.com/groups/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_AFC_Women%27s_Olympic_Qualifying_Tournament

2020 AFC Women's Olympic Qualifying Tournament
 3rd Round Qualified teams

    Australia,  China PR, Chinese Taipei, Myanmar
     North Korea, South Korea, Thailand, Vietnam

The third round is scheduled for January or February 2020.  &  The final round (4 teams)  is scheduled for March 2020. 

2 of the 8 teams will qualify for the Olympics, along with the host Japan to represent Asia.

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By BTS supporting / sponsoring now in the period leading up to the Olympics, it will likely engender a brand loyalty and therefore increased [organically grown] exposure during the tournament via social media, word of mouth and grassroots promotion.

Another important point is this demographic is not negatively predisposed towards BitShares, like it is, apparently, across the broader crypto/fintech/trader community, according to this..

 https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28494.msg331280#msg331280
{was there ever any real survery, polling, or other data to substantiate this?}

So this would also be a chance to create a positive brand impression out of the gate  while not having to overcome any built-in bias present in e.g. crypto conference attendees 

Customer acquisition is obviously easier to attempt on a level field versus starting at the bottom of a hill  ---   you know the old saying,  "First impressions are important, you only make one of them! "...but the goal here is twofold for BitShares  i.e. to also make a Lasting impression... a very good one..

BTS can be marketed and perceived as the Cryptosphere's  most prominent supporter of Women's soccer (or sports in general) .....a successful global branding campaign like that could arguably grow the market cap by a Billion $ or more by the time of the Olympics.  { reaching a steady and stable price ..BTS ~ US$0.45+}
(Not to mention if by fortune a very hi profile female (or male) athlete becomes enamored by BTS by themselves...( a classic +ve Black Swan)
 
Maybe BTS could sponsor one or two teams per region in each round?  Buy Advertising time on the broadcasts or place banners on the relevant websites in local languages?   Partner with local sponsors/supermarkets that will accept bitCNY, bitUSD, bitKRW,bitEUR, bitYEN, bitGBP etc..?    How much would it cost to manufacture a 100k T-Shirts, pens, keychains, etc with the BitShares logo?   Would the manufacturer accept bitCNY, bitXX, if in return guaranteed future business or backing by a Whale?

or Sponsor Matches -  What would it cost  to brand with the BitShares logo custom small USB flash drives ?  The players and coaches of the winning team each gets a flash drive and the losers get T-Shirts.  That has practical and long term impression impact..  Even if an indivdual can't use the flash drive I'm sure they will find a family member, classmate, friend , etc to give or sell it to...Doesn't matter, it's all about impressions..   

And the Easter Egg is that each flash drive could have an HTML document linked to https://news.bitshares.org and/or  maybe a  BTS.scr file with animated screensaver.
YouTube in English and/ or  a video link in local language showing how to sign up for a BitShares web wallet -- linked to a specially funded faucet with 3 BTS (or whatever is appropriate))
with links to other text,docs, slides or tutorials, etc., with no immediate need for WiFi ..

And yes btw..if the game is a draw everyone gets a T-Shirt -  gives more incentive to win!....Of course it would make sense to sponsor a match in which there is great interest e.g. among the best teams, rivals or that have a large following of fans..
(This is just one example... the prizes don't have to be big...Most of these teams do not have big operating budgets even for equipment, outfits etc.).

What's the worst that could happen...? 
Does BTS have any MAJOR marketing initiatives planned for the rest of the summer, autumn, winter 2019-20? 

Doing nothing ..guarantees nothing...(or worse)......Doing something....at the very least will increase BTS awareness among an unbiased, social media influencer, demographic that is loyal to women's soccer/footall/sports etc. and the companies that support them..  Who knows... maybe it will cultivate a global audience of new crypto-enthusiasts.. 

BitShares is in a lull right now...and ordinary measures will not suffice...it needs to grow advocates aroud the world..

 Different industry same issue                  https://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/19/07/14111890/analysts-athletic-brands-arent-making-enough-products-for-women

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A BitSpark -  opportunity.. -   

A jumpstart in Europe for the always anemic BitEUR...?

https://www.womenssoccerunited.com/uwcl-qualifying-draw-2020/

A record 62 teams will take part in the 2019/20 UEFA Women’s Champions League with 40 teams competing in the qualifying round.

The UEFA Women’s Champions League 2019/20 Qualifying Round will take place 7 to 13 August.
Round of 32/16:  Sept./ Oct. 2019;  Qtr and Semis in March / April 2020
 
The  Final -- Viola Park, Vienna: 24 May 2020

  {No  one attending this event  has ever heard of BitShares I bet..https://www.womenssoccerunited.com/norways-valerenga-ladies-play-manchester-united-women-wednesday-31st-july/ 

--   Who knows...any BTS awareness might spillover to the multi-million dollar men's team players.

How did DOGECOIN outperform BitShares these past years....?      Answer:  Brand Loyalty

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