Ah, you edited your reply, so now your point is clearer to me.

If the proposal for the work had been for some specific task, I would agree with you that the funds should be returned. The point is, the proposal was a simple catch-all insurance policy against blockchain failure, not a specific task.

It was always my plan to refund unused pay from the worker

Well, I hadn't interpreted his words this way, but you could be correct.

But if so, releasing funds only for "done work" is somewhat problematic, IMO. It will certainly be difficult to find workers who can afford to wait till after a job is done before they receive payment. In fact, I think that you won't find any such workers, unless they do it only for their own satisfaction, and only consider any reward for the work as an afterthought. In other words, I think you will get only "free" work contributions with such a payment model (with the possible exception for some, quick easy tasks).

Quote from: finn-bts on December 21, 2019, 12:14:26 pm

Quote from: Thul3 on December 21, 2019, 11:41:59 am

Didn't you posted before that you are going to send back to reserve pool when the amount gets to big ?

I guess 7 million bts could be considered as to big

As if he wasn't going to do that, he thought he had a right to the money.

To Thul3:
No, I didn't ever make such a statement.  You seem to be confused. The amount is not currently accumulating, it hit the total amount of 7 million BTS long ago (years ago). In the last discussion where it was talked abou a while ago, I made it clear: I'm only holding the accumulated funds for possible use to help the chain if necessary.

To finn-bts: If I thought I had a right to spend the BTS for my own use, I would have sold it when I sold my own funds. Please use some common sense.

It was always my plan to refund unused pay from the worker

If the amount builds up to an amount I consider excessive, I'll simply send some back to the reserve account.

At this moment, I've allocated $1000 USD equivalent of BTS (actual amount paid will depend on BTS price at time of payment) from the fund for BlockTrade's work on the memo key bug. I'm also planning to spend some from this account to partially pay for work being done on adding the ability to distribute dividends to UIA holders. Beyond that, we'll just be on the lookout for other problems that arise or a compelling feature that seems to have community support that can be added at relatively low cost.

I'm only holding the accumulated funds for possible use to help the chain if necessary.

Quote from: Thul3 on December 20, 2019, 01:36:32 pm

Quote from: Crypto Kong on December 20, 2019, 12:59:58 pm

Quote from: Nesh on December 19, 2019, 09:19:45 pm

What a disgrace. A flat 5% withdrawal fee? Insane minimum withdrawal amounts (0.1 BTC, 5 ETH, 40XMR, ...)?? Are they crazy or is that their own form of an exit scam? As they are properly registered as a company in denmark I hope someone takes this case to the appropriate authorities.

I have reported them to the Danish FSA but the more people who do the same the better, I encourage everyone with trapped funds or not to report them.

Stop fudding or at least read the defenition of exit scam.
Raising withdraw cost is no exit scam which proof you are in person as you received your coins.

How is suddenly charging a 100x higher fee when withdrawing just 1 Bitcoin and preventing the majority of users to withdraw their funds due to crazy minimum withdrawal amounts not a form of a scam? Both these actions are even illegal as customers need to be informed before such drastic changes are done by EU law. And what if they charged a withdrawal fee of 99.9%, how would you call that?

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I expect OpenLedger to shut down in the next 1-2 weeks. Clearly their fee and withdrawal "changes" serve no reason other than ripping people off, earning a ton from withdrawals and keeping a ton of assets below the minimum withdrawal amounts - they obviously cannot stay competitive like this. Also, by EU and danish law they would need to introduce KYC and AML stuff by early january 2020 which they most likely don't plan to do.

The current worker proposal expires on 29 DEC 2019. Funding for the core worker 1.14.163 was “fully funded” due to BTS price peaking in July and requested suspension of votes to allow other workers to be funded. However, BTS price continued to drop and thus the core worker is not considered fully funded if it were to operate at full capacity.