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General Discussion / Re: Crisis which bitshares is going through
« on: June 07, 2020, 12:53:31 pm »

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General Discussion / Re: Crisis which bitshares is going through
« on: June 07, 2020, 09:26:59 am »


Vote for Exit Scam Gateway. Corrupted Proxies? Insiders Deals?

I vote based on activity,know how and provided infra which bitshares is already leaking on each corner.
But you are free to point me to better solutions as i don't accept inactive witnesses with a simple VPS as something better.

Will create this week a list of witnesses and their hardware and contribution.

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Do you even have an option to not listen to community anymore or is it only about your personal benefit ?

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BAIP6 has not been approved since your worker clearly didn't matched as a BAIP but a regular worker.
Gateway assets have nothing to do with Bitassets and BAIP.Also a MM contest for bitassets is according to BAIP's defenition which is voted in by consensus not a BAIP


Any committee supporting these manipulations will lose my and many other peoples support.

You want to get it approved?
Do it the right way without your endless manipulations and i will execute it myself.

This is not a regular worker, it is not relevant to reserve pool.

This proposal is expanded/updated from the MM contest, will be operated by Committee, Yes, some parts of it are irrelevant to bitAssets, but as a whole it is still closely linked to bitAssets ecosystem, There is no problem to adopt BAIP as the infrastructure for documentation and voting.


It's not.

Here once again the defenition of BAIP for you

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BAIP Types

There are two kinds of BAIPs:

-An Informational BAIP describes a BitAssets design issue, or provides general guidelines or information to the BitShares community, but does not propose a new feature, consensus change or any other modification. Informational BAIPs do not necessarily represent a BitShares community consensus or recommendation, so users and implementors are free to ignore Informational BAIPs or follow their advice. Examples would be best-practises or recommendations.
-A Consensus Upgrade BAIP describes any change that affects some or all BitAssets implementations, such as a parameters or price feed formula, logic and source or addition that affects the applications using BitAssets.


Also BAIP has no authority touching committee funds.
You are just trying to bypass a regular voting knowing it would have no chance to pass targeting committee funds.
Why did you kicked me 2 days ago out of committee in wechat ?Because i reduced the voting power of the 4 committee members who passed proposals without the consent of the other 7 committee members ?

Trading volume from GDEX last 24h is arround 60k BTS in total.
You need money to pay for trading activity at GDEX ?
If its so lucrative why don't you pay from your own pocket ?
Because the payment is bigger than the benefit ?
You would collect 100% of fees and not just 80%.

Your daily volume represents how well you know bitshares community.
A result of your never ending ignorance towards them.

So explain to us now please how are we going to benefit from features now like sharing fee etc with that volume ?

You just wasted again 4 months applying core to irrelevant work as we both know who created the prelude core worker in a closed group pushing his own agenda.

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网关式的DEX很长时间内都不会有什么前景可言:

fully agree


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6. 功能技术机制更新远远远落后于大交易所。
Agree and its the last possible time to get it done


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长达半年的MM投入支出、新增有效用户数、日有效活跃用户数,拿出来看看不一目了然?
GDEX volume extremly low even lower sometimes than Rudex.

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喂价操控性:   危险系数+1
参数操控性:   危险系数+1
前景不确定性:危险系数+1
后备资金燃烧:危险系数+1
All foreigners agree on that



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General Discussion / Re: Crisis which bitshares is going through
« on: June 07, 2020, 12:50:34 am »
P.S This thread is not to attack someone but to clearly adress the major issues bitshares has to create solutions point by point to start moving forward again.

There are still positive people out there on both sides willing to move bitshares forward back into the right direction

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General Discussion / Crisis which bitshares is going through
« on: June 06, 2020, 11:38:42 pm »
Am trying to adress here some major problems where everyone else is free to add his points of view why bitshares is in such a deep crisis.


1.Broken governance

2.Corrupt committee controlled by a small group which makes bitassets untrusted and committee funds unsafe.

3.Fake price feeds depegging bitassets for a very long time.High risk something like that will happen in future,bitassets paramaters controlled by a small untrustworthy group making people leaving bitassets.

4.Risky Gateways including closed ones Sparkdex,CB,OL,Easydex,Winex making majority of bitshares members not willing to hold non bitshares token at gateways anymore.

5.Centralization of power and abuse.Example Abit taking away core members permissions on github to put a BSIP into voting (which was fucked up which i told him,since it had not been approved anyways but the dictacting from him that core devs are not allowed to put a BSIP up to voting and there was no possibility to give core devs permission back without his personal agreement as only he had full control over github and putting his opinion over all other core devs at that time).
Same on telegram group ,installing a bot without permission of any other of the 15 Admins there to mute and ban longterm members who doesn't fit in his point of view.
ALL admins disagree with his actions but no response from him other than trying to dictate what is not allowed to talk about.He installed a bot no other Admin has access to.
People are basicly not participating anymore and leaving to other smaller chats having enough of him.
It's an active process of destroying a community.Old core dev's had also big ethical issues with Abits move on github.
Some people have clearly to much power with no bigger consequences when abusing which needs to be limited to stop abuse
as both communities the foreigner and chinese one are tired which led to inactivity of community and no participation in voting.

6.Community will not being executed with no consequences.
You can see everywhere people and even big proxies stopped voting because why should someone vote if his will is not being executed or when he knows a small group will only execute what they prefer.
Ethics in leading group is non existent.
Reading Abits neverending explanations of his acceptance of abuse on bitshares on telegram chat was a shame as a committee member of bitshares.
Committee should be hold by members with high trust AND ethics and not just by the most active ones who activly destroyed bitshares the last 2 years.


7.Community not reacting activly anymore on abuse.Everyone writes about it but noone stands up anymore as committee members who did have been kicked out and been replaced with inactive ones.
Community members are after 2 years of a never ending fight tired and see no effect on taking actions against clear abuse even when talking to someone mention it everytime.


8.Bitshares witnesses who are not activly working for bitshares or adding any other value like infra just to collect rewards using a simple VPS.
Bitshares infra have been massivly destroyed by replacing good active witnesses who provided infra with new witnesses who doesn't provide anything or even participate at bitshares.

9.Custodial voting like ZB.ZB doesn't update their votings at all.They have been used by bitcrab to enforce his point of view and they have completly no interaction with bitshares or even knowledge.Still their old voting settings are making witness and worker voting messed up.

10.Longterm stagnation.No real feature have been worked on for a very long time.Small chinese group tries to play with parameters and nothing else.
Bitshares getting irrelevant as other exchanges have outdated bitshares in many aspects.Bitshares small worker already will take 5 months with no significant improvements.(features)

11.Legal issues caused by a small group unwilling to even check the effects of their actions.
Legal worker supported by a small group which will make big part of community leave should it get voted in.

12.Community getting smaller and smaller.Big amount of longterm members getting silent and not participating anymore on both sides.

13.Basicly lack of trust caused by all the drama and manipulations by a small group killing any hope for bitshares by a big group.

14.Decission and planning made by a small group in a closed chat with a clear track record of fails who are blocking any other proposals.

15.GDEX asking for KYC.On their website demanding selfie with ID card including facial features.


Maybe some people can understand now why Rudex and some other gateways are a pain in the ass for them and why they tried to enforce a centralized bitshares using legal trying to kick them out (see volume)

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BAIP6 has not been approved since your worker clearly didn't matched as a BAIP but a regular worker.
Gateway assets have nothing to do with Bitassets and BAIP.Also a MM contest for bitassets is according to BAIP's defenition which is voted in by consensus not a BAIP


Any committee supporting these manipulations will lose my and many other peoples support.

You want to get it approved?
Do it the right way without your endless manipulations and i will execute it myself.



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BAIP Types

There are two kinds of BAIPs:

-An Informational BAIP describes a BitAssets design issue, or provides general guidelines or information to the BitShares community, but does not propose a new feature, consensus change or any other modification. Informational BAIPs do not necessarily represent a BitShares community consensus or recommendation, so users and implementors are free to ignore Informational BAIPs or follow their advice. Examples would be best-practises or recommendations.
-A Consensus Upgrade BAIP describes any change that affects some or all BitAssets implementations, such as a parameters or price feed formula, logic and source or addition that affects the applications using BitAssets.
https://github.com/bitshares/baips/blob/master/baip-0001.md


nice quote from abit

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当然,如果一个业务肯定做不好,要砍掉。

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: Proxy:B-DEX
« on: June 06, 2020, 04:32:50 pm »
Am adding my vote for committee liondani and evengelist.
Even i don't really support them as both are not activly participating i will add my vote to lower the committee voting power of other members so it won't be possible anymore that only 4 committee members approve a committee proposal even the other 7committee members are against it.
It's a try to secure committee funds and parameters against misuse.

Increasing the numbers of needed approvel from 4 to 5/6 out of 11 is just fair.

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你行你上。
你也是进过理事会的,你也知道作为理事推动事情有多难。
站在旁边指责,就简单多了。

用收益好的业务来补贴收益不好的业务,是公司常用运营策略,目的是将收益不好的业务做好。
不然,等市场变了,收益好的业务没收益了,收益不好的业务又没扶起来,那公司就只能靠投资者来撑,撑不住就垮了。
当然,如果一个业务肯定做不好,要砍掉。

It's only difficult because of you ,bitcrab and jademont who are blocking everything and only interrested in their own agenda even when its representing a small minority.
It is just for your self benefit and nothing else.Defending your gateway and trying to make it the middlepoint of bitshares with the help of the reserve pool .
Nothing else.
You funded already so many scam projects which could have us get big legit businesses and bitcny being used as stablecoin on one of the major crypto exchanges.
Instead you guys block and enforce your poor shit which brings no value but just destroys bitshares.
You invest in scam exchange which brought completly nothing to bitshares with the excuse it's better than nothing.
All it did is always bringing benefits to the known trio.
You already showed over the last months how much you care about community will.
Did you even opened a single request to destroy accuired BTS after it was voted in ?
Is it difficult to get it approved in committee ?
Chinese also claim you are not executing their requests which they can't bypass because according to them you only know how to sent a proposal back because of the UI bug.

So keep pointing your finger always to others but the biggest harm to bitshares are you and bitcrab and nobody else.
You abusing bitshares,not executing other members demand knowing noone else is able to do it and you keep telling its difficult to pass ?

You clearly meant its difficult now to pass your own point of view because when talking to cn-vote directly the demands from foreigners and theirs are very similar.

So who is the break making bitshares to stagnate because not being able to enforce his own point of view  ?

A result of to much centralized power which you have beginning on github and ending in telegram group chats.

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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BAIP6: BTS-DEX economic model
« on: June 06, 2020, 04:08:41 pm »
BAIP6 is not approved


Your proposal is not valid for a BAIP voting


BAIP defenition voted in by consensus :

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BAIP stands for BitAssets Improvement Proposal but can also seen as an improvement consensus. BitAssets are smartcoins technically owned by the "committee-account" on the BitShares blockchain. A BAIP is a design document providing information to the BitShares community, or describing a new feature for BitAssets or change its parameters or price feed formula, logic and source. In short, this repository is for the community to discuss and organize votings for things about bitCNY, bitUSD


Your proposal is clearly not fitting into that defenition.
Your proposal is a normal worker not important how you name it.

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Somebody just needs to look the volume of GDEX to see where you have driven us.
Seems even chinese stopped trading on bitshares non bitshares token.

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marginal

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General Discussion / Re: @Abit
« on: June 05, 2020, 10:32:43 am »
I made a single reply to DL who accused me there.

You are clearly out of control


Your try to enforce longterm members you muted from bitsharesdex (with no agreement of a single other admin there) that they are not allowed talking about bitassets ,BSIP76, and the MM contest in a negative way (representing their opinion) shows everything how you try to manipulate based on your own opinion and that you clearly don't represent the main values which bitshares has.

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General Discussion / Re: @Abit
« on: June 05, 2020, 10:25:20 am »
Just another abuse of Abit who banned me from node admin Channel for making a single reply there to Digital Lucifer who accused someone to be me.
Seems they can't handle any kind of critics which Digital Lucifer received for bitshares.org (not from me since he knows already my opinion).

It just shows how badly Abit is acting and that many people are tired of him and bitcrab and leaving and even stopping to participate at all because they claim it makes no diffrence.
The only thing which would help based on their opinion is a fork.


Abit is clearly destroying the foreigner community banning and muting people who disagree with his actions and acting like the sole king of bitshares.
From my side i won't support him anymore as he clearly stepped way over his authority forcing longterm members who did a lot for bitshares and were also nice invested in bitshares to leave.

Such behavior can't be tolarated and it makes me sad that only a few proxies react to his behavior to make a clear sign to STOP even seeing a bigger chinese part gets also tired about it and inactive.
Soon there will be no more a significant foreign community as majority already talks about leaving because of all that situation.

Bitshares clearly lost it's ethics and people in control who enforced it.
Abuse is today at bitshares something normal where nobody is reacting anymore just makes them silently leaving or getting inactive.

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