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General Discussion / Re: Complaint against clockwork witness
« on: May 14, 2019, 06:35:02 am »
It has been more than an hour, and the feed price is still lower than any other CEX(DEX).Except for a few witnesses, no witness is qualified.

I only just woke up and saw this....

I actually made this post in witness channel BEFORE I saw this topic:

Alex M - clockwork, [14.05.19 09:24]
adjusted price feed sources again.

Alex M - clockwork, [14.05.19 09:25]
too much fake vol exchanges combined with tether arbitrage were dragging my feed down


Also...I didn't refuse to make price for CNY...I just didn't like your attitude on downturns. If you had noticed, I adjusted sources then and my feed was higher than median until last night.



As you can see, most of the time (except for a few hrs overnight where the sudden appearance of fake low price vol is obvious) my feed is above median

but I guess you guys only see what you want to see.

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Agree to lock 100M

So your solution to avoid the threat of centralisation caused by one entity controlling 300m stake is to make it so only THAT entity can run a witness and thus totally ensure it happens.

Good job. Much logic.

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General Discussion / Re: Price Feed Review
« on: May 09, 2019, 06:59:41 pm »
only got round to accessing my feed script today just now.

My feed was actually the highest just now without changing anything a few hours later...I know we all wish BTS never moved down but guess what...it does....are we gonna have this discussion and people calling hard-working witnesses names EVERY time BTS moves down? Let me know so I can be prepared. It's crypto...it's volatile...it goes up and and it goes down. I don't like it either but it happens.

Still... I disabled the outlier CoinEgg component of the feed as it seems untrustworthy. Feed now 4% above median

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So,we need set a threshold for the witness,the witness need lock 500M bts in the system.

wtf?

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General Discussion / Re: vote witness : ioex,Get dividends
« on: May 02, 2019, 12:11:20 pm »
To increase your chances

* you should prove your technical competence by running a testnet witness before you try mainnet
* you should have a backup server running in hot standby
* you should run a public API node as well
* your feed price should accurately represent the fair value of BTS against the underlying asset

Trying to buy votes is frowned upon by many and will most likely lead to the big voters *not* voting for you.

Thank you for your kind advice.
* I have a witness node cit-ioex on Citshares(https://www.citshares.org/explorer/witnesses),you can see it as a test network.
* I will consider to set a backup server , and I have the ability , I've done it before .
* Now the API node have not yet open to public , now is for private use .
* My feed price will accurate , and i allow a little higher than CNY or USD , but i don't allow the feed price lower than , lower feed price is a tool to hurt investors in some sense.
 
And i want to say this is not buying votes . Being a witness is a money-making thing now, of course, it can be used as a company operation to dividend shareholders. And my money is paid after earning it,that is the key point.

You came here to advertise fork and ask for a witness ?
Your reply to "setup testnet witness on BitShares network" is "look at my witness on a fork of it" ?
You are asking people to "share dividends" as a witness a.k.a. buying votes ?

If someone doesn't cleanup this thread within 24 hours from other admins, I'll revisit.

And reply to all your posts in this thread is just one big NO, THANK YOU.

TESTNET AND FORKNET HAVE ANY TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES ?
You have your point of view, I have my point of view.
I do not care .

Don't know if there are technical differences between the two. However a testnet witness and a testnets witness run period is commonly required to ensure that the witness operator can keep up with the updates and processes required to run a mainnet witness.

So in that sense, running a testnet witness to follow bitshares' core scheduled upgrades and maintenance releases as well as help test new features is VASTLY different than a fork witness.

Also, 200CNY (~30 USD) seems exceptionally low for a witness node. Let alone 2 of them (backup)

Finally, personally (obviously this is subjective)  I will never support a dividend paying witness as I believe this aspect of DPoS has hurt every other DPoS chain and I'm glad we hadn't seen it here so far.

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General Discussion / Re: would you support a cheater as the wintess?
« on: April 26, 2019, 06:00:27 am »
How ridiculous is this!!!

 the feeding program is developed by community and open-sourced, you are lazy to simulate with the provided evidence, but keep asking unless questions and trying to impose your willingness on others.

i did a deep~~~ track on logs and the feeding activity i provided before, what i observers is it might drop on the "median" on most of times if you simulate with bitshares-pricefeed@0.0.10 and following config, i do not know whether it is as designed or program bug,you could have a try by your self。

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CNY:
        target_price_algorithm: 'adjusted_feed_price'
        target_price_adjustment_scale: 0
        maximum_short_squeeze_ratio: 105

what i see from this thread is Bitshares already controlled by a few whales, and many community members cannot distinguish what is right and wrong, what you do is just following, i don't care any more ,just do as you like.

I have removed my votes for crazybit.

The above comment proves that

a) it was NOT done on purpose IMHO but

b) crazy bit has no understanding of the various discussions on feeding


        target_price_algorithm: 'adjusted_feed_price'
        target_price_adjustment_scale: 0

The above are BSIP42 settings....Meaning it's based on negative feedback on the MEDIAN price.
When BSIP42 became inactive he just changed the feedback factor (target_price_adjustment_scale) to 0 so there was no feedback and just fed the last read median price outright.

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Its a big mistake to change MCR in a downtrend.It will have zero impact because of bad timing.
Instead we could use it in a real uptrend with clear singals to push BTS and make external traders join that push to pump it back up.
In a downtrend you won't see much of an effect.....you even risk getting quicker near gs....... losing again its pegg and reputation.

Patience is a virtue

After a quick look at the calls this morning after a 5% drop, agree with Thul3 too.

In THEORY, it would be helpful, but in practice NOONE is being sensible about their CR so will only make things worse. Contemplating removing votes.

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General Discussion / Re: Mrs bitcrabiness / shut down the internet
« on: April 24, 2019, 07:52:31 am »
I think that's a bot. His posts are incomprehensible.

just barely....been trying to decide if bot or very bad translation since yesterday

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Here...take your pick....




I'm getting tired of this.

We can't simply publish high prices because it suits some people.

same goes for low prices.

that's why I suggest to feed price based on DEX price and bitCNY premium/discount.

who know where there is an CEX has a price of 0.399? if there is, just arbitrage between it and DEX.

i believe that's coinegg IIRC

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Here...take your pick....




I'm getting tired of this.

We can't simply publish high prices because it suits some people.

same goes for low prices.

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I think you meant to say that you "unvoted" us. Seems to me that  everyone is within the specified 4%. Also I am one of the few (if not the only one) that uses paid price feeds so my feeds report changes a bit faster than the rest of the network.

mine are paid too fwiw

paid price feeds does not mean good price feeds.

it's not difficult to know what is the exact BTS price at a moment without rapid price change.

when I do below screenshoting, DEX price is of 0.4266, bitCNY has a premium of about 1.8%, BTS price should be about 0.434CNY.
at huobi BTS has a price of 0.0629 USDT and in OTC market 1USDT = 6.92CNY, so BTS price should be 0.435CNY.
but both paid price feeds gave price 1%+ lower than the market price.






you do realise the prices we publish  are not random right?

I could cherry pick a combination of exchange routes from USD -> BTS or CNY -> BTS that result in even lower price or even higher than the ones you mention.

Thats why we take all of them into account.

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Just because they have a nice graphic with many little arrows pointing everywhere doesn't mean it's going to work better than what we have.

I'm not against experimenting either, within reasonable bounds. All I'm saying is that

a) using the DEX price for the feed is dangerous because such feedback loops tend to oscillate, and
b) there is no such thing as a "correct" feed price when external markets are skewed due to political boundaries, so it is pointless to argue about it.

from what I can tell, they have an effective MSSR of 1.12 as far as the borrower is concerned. From that they take 10% for an insurance fund and place the collateral in the market for an MSSR of 1.02 (as far as the buyers are concerned)

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I think you meant to say that you "unvoted" us. Seems to me that  everyone is within the specified 4%. Also I am one of the few (if not the only one) that uses paid price feeds so my feeds report changes a bit faster than the rest of the network.

mine are paid too fwiw

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As a possible improvement, I have just disabled the cointiger source as their high volume (and in my opinion probably fake wash trading) might be messing with my averages.

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fwiw, i dont use USDT pairs anywhere in my feeding

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