See this is why Steemit was a kick in the nuts to BTS investors. Our community and resources were basically raped and pillaged over to Steem.

"Not going to compete with BitShares" my ass.

I had a long skype conversation with @roadscape when his Cryptofresh worker was voted out.

That worker had been paying him a very meager salary for the building of cryptofersh and for its maintenance and upgrades (especially considering the long hours and on call, round the clock, nature of the work he had been doing). He spent huge amounts of uncompensated time on developing Cryptofresh before he asked for some worker pay for maintenance and upgrades. He was absolutely dedicated and was thus devastated by being voted out.

Steemit has given back to @roadscape his confidence, dignity and some remuneration for his efforts. All the things that were not given to him by Bitshares "investors".

Some Bitshares "investors" appear to have have kicked themselves in the nuts. Unfortunately, the consequences of their actions are not confined to themselves but have hurt all of us loyal bitshares holders.

Installment 14 in the Origin of BitShares series is now posted:

The Jump to Lightspeed

High five Stan!

Hey, let's get this post upvoted to encourage rapid steemit adoption in the Chinese market!

https://steemit.com/life/ * sweetsssj/the-secrets-of-why-girls-go-to-the-bar

(Replace the * with a @  and take out the spaces.)

Quote from: onceuponatime on July 13, 2016, 06:15:22 am

Quote from: OldMan on July 13, 2016, 05:44:31 am

Quote from: btswildpig on July 13, 2016, 04:46:49 am

The sharedrop was promised by Invictus company .

And STEEM is run by STEEM company .

So . it's ok not to drop on it .

I have to say this is a very strange response from someone who's been around as long as you have. Steem/Steemit/Steemit Inc. is running on code and talent developed for Bitshares. Dan's pitch, and the reason so many invested in PTS/AGS, was that the code base could be used to bootstrap an entire ecosystem of blockchain based projects. Investors would fund development of the initial code base and in return would receive a share in future projects.

The world is a harsh place and I would expect some to profit by abusing the 'social contract' upon which investment in PTS/AGS was premised via any number of schemes (ie. we changed the name on the sign and are no longer on the hook) but to be completely honest the lead dev is the last person I would have expected to do this sort of thing.

Those of us that invested in Dan's vision in the early days did so because his vision was sheer genius - design a generic platform which could be used by others to build an entire economy of block chain based businesses. By funding the creation of the generic platform investors could share in the success of the businesses that were built on top of it.

Steem/Steemit/Steemit Inc. seems to be the first profitable (?) realization of Dan's vision and hot damn, it's hard to believe the Bitshares folks are being left to hang.

Yes, BTS seems to be seeing some buying of late. Yes, the 'select few' that followed Dan are enjoying an influx of capital. All good things. But the social contract that was supposed to transcend the legal/political/corporate fuckery that defines the current state of the world seems to have been shat upon.

Say it ain't so! I've held my investment through brief highs and long, long lows because I believe Bitshares has real potential to level the playing field, globally. Hopefully Dan is having his Skywalker moment of doubt and is dabbling in the dark side.

It ain't so. Do some research. There are innumerable people still working on BitShares, and many of the people working on Steem are also very active in BitShares. If Steem had not been invented, BitShares would have ground to a halt because their were no development funds, and some of the devs NEED TO EAT, and NEED TO FEED THEIR CHILDREN.

There are some very "entitled" people in BitShares who think they are owed something beyond what had been produced by the time development funds ran out (and further funding through dilution - a very common business practice, as in new funding rounds - could not get the required votes).

And look at BitShares Munich, one of the leading sources of BitShares development now.  It has brought in thousands of dollars of bitshares development funds for itself BY POSTING ABOUT IT ON STEEMIT.COM and getting upvoted there (when it couldn't raise enough funding by selling its OPENPOS asset on the DEX).

The ignorance sometimes displayed in this forum is stifling.

thanks for your view of an "inside
r".

Aren't you the guy who took month after month of pay from the blockchain to fund his own bitshares-related business startup? And then shut it down?

Yours is the type of ignorance that I am talking about. And your constant negativity and bitterness are not only stifling, but counterproductive.

Quote from: btswildpig on July 13, 2016, 04:46:49 am

The sharedrop was promised by Invictus company .

And STEEM is run by STEEM company .

So . it's ok not to drop on it .

I have to say this is a very strange response from someone who's been around as long as you have. Steem/Steemit/Steemit Inc. is running on code and talent developed for Bitshares. Dan's pitch, and the reason so many invested in PTS/AGS, was that the code base could be used to bootstrap an entire ecosystem of blockchain based projects. Investors would fund development of the initial code base and in return would receive a share in future projects.

The world is a harsh place and I would expect some to profit by abusing the 'social contract' upon which investment in PTS/AGS was premised via any number of schemes (ie. we changed the name on the sign and are no longer on the hook) but to be completely honest the lead dev is the last person I would have expected to do this sort of thing.

Those of us that invested in Dan's vision in the early days did so because his vision was sheer genius - design a generic platform which could be used by others to build an entire economy of block chain based businesses. By funding the creation of the generic platform investors could share in the success of the businesses that were built on top of it.

Steem/Steemit/Steemit Inc. seems to be the first profitable (?) realization of Dan's vision and hot damn, it's hard to believe the Bitshares folks are being left to hang.

Yes, BTS seems to be seeing some buying of late. Yes, the 'select few' that followed Dan are enjoying an influx of capital. All good things. But the social contract that was supposed to transcend the legal/political/corporate fuckery that defines the current state of the world seems to have been shat upon.

Say it ain't so! I've held my investment through brief highs and long, long lows because I believe Bitshares has real potential to level the playing field, globally. Hopefully Dan is having his Skywalker moment of doubt and is dabbling in the dark side.

It ain't so. Do some research. There are innumerable people still working on BitShares, and many of the people working on Steem are also very active in BitShares. If Steem had not been invented, BitShares would have ground to a halt because their were no development funds, and some of the devs NEED TO EAT, and NEED TO FEED THEIR CHILDREN.

There are some very "entitled" people in BitShares who think they are owed something beyond what had been produced by the time development funds ran out (and further funding through dilution - a very common business practice, as in new funding rounds - could not get the required votes).

And look at BitShares Munich, one of the leading sources of BitShares development now.  It has brought in thousands of dollars of bitshares development funds for itself BY POSTING ABOUT IT ON STEEMIT.COM and getting upvoted there (when it couldn't raise enough funding by selling its OPENPOS asset on the DEX).

The ignorance sometimes displayed in this forum is stifling.

Quote from: onceuponatime on July 09, 2016, 10:23:44 pm

Quote from: cylonmaker2053 on July 09, 2016, 08:12:13 pm

thanks for the plug, @fuzzy! I just noticed this...

@cylonmaker2053

https://steemit.com/bitshares/@cylonmaker2053/the-first-university-bitshares-competition-fina-469-uofsc
onceuponatime  ·  52 minutes ago
If you give me your bts address I will donate to you 10 bitSILVER to be distributed:
5 bitSILVER for first place
3 bitSILVER for second place
2 bitSILVER for third place

that's very generous, thank you! My goal with this project is to get other profs in the department to do the same thing with their much larger classes. Generous donations like this from the community just make the case even better.

also, my Bitshares address: cylonmaker2053

Sent.

Everytime I see POS, I immediately think "piece of shit".

I didn't even like the name OPENPOS, but didn't think it was a big deal since it wasn't consumer facing.

Ken, is there any way you could remove POS from the logo?

You want Ken to make a major change from opinion in a sample size of one?

Sure thing. I'll add it to my signature. In the meantime, just send to chronos-youtube

Done.