Quote from: CoinHoarder on December 31, 2015, 05:42:07 am

Quote from: bytemaster on December 31, 2015, 01:41:27 am

What are your thoughts on such a proposal?  We would focus on API + Bond + Maker.

I suggest that you not let the outspoken shareholders hold you hostage. They claim you are holding them hostage, but that couldn't be further from the truth. They need to learn how to get organized, find talent (developers), and fund development of the projects they want to see developed. This is their problem, not yours alone (or CNX's), and it is better they learn how to properly use Bitshares' features now rather than later. Let them organize the projects, find developers, fund them, etc... to build out the features as they want them built. It will be a good lesson for the community and a proof of concept of sorts for Bitshares' features. They need to learn nothing is free and to stop being so cheap. The first independent developer thread has started and they're already talking about outsourcing the work overseas to some quasi sweatshop worker that will work for $5 a hour... let them learn the hard way.

You were right to deduce that your time will be better spent working on MAS than the DEX. Your idea of mutual aid societies will have a much bigger effect on the Bitshares token price than "finishing" the DEX will. MAS has no competition in the cryptosphere... the DEX has AT LEAST 4 competing projects fighting over a small and limited user base (most of which has already made up their minds one way or the other about Bitshares.) Swing for the fences. These guys can't see your vision right now and how much more lucrative it is than "finishing" the DEX, but they will be thanking you a year from now if you push on with your MAS idea and the user base expands exponentially because of such (along with the value of the BTS token and ironically the liquidity/volume of the DEX.) The PR alone from this will be worth its weight in bitGOLD.

 

Over a year too late dan. A lot of good could have been accomplished back in Miami. You should have listened to your dad.

Quote from: jakub on December 30, 2015, 10:00:44 am

Here is the manipulation, Stan: the above list is purely theoretical at this stage.
You pretend we have a choice but actually we don't.

As long as CNX is the only player capable of implementing changes affecting BitShares protocol - this is a one-man show.
DPOS and shareholders voting on worker proposals is pure fiction at this stage.

We (the shareholders) did not have a choice between Stealth and Maker. We were offered Stealth or nothing. So we chose Stealth.
Now again the same thing is happening: we do not have a choice between DEX and MAS. We are offered MAS or nothing.

Honestly I am surprised. Surprised that you are so close to the truth,. Actually you just need one more step in the right direction and you will see the whole picture - the whole picture loudly screaming at you.

Actually @lil_jay890 did it for you (and everybody else) and  last night posted (one of the, if not the) greatest post on this forum. He went on to delete it unfortunately...

I was thinking of posting a thread "The great Future of BTS  as a Ponzi scheme" for some time now, but actually his description is better "BTS a personal charity  for the benefit of a business called CNX". The consequences and the future should be clearer, having realized that.

Here you all have it.... consider yourself warned!!!!.

I really get a kick out of all the people here who are so afraid of 1. An idea, and 2. Bytemaster in a leadership capacity... I hope the irony is not lost on anyone.   

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Going into 2016 I would like to see a renewed focus on community and vision. Our community is the product we are selling so let’s give people a reason to join our community rather than offering them a service they can pay for like a customer.  Lets focus on helping one another and being a place where others would like to be rather than being self-centered individuals complaining about how the breadcrumbs are divided. Let’s adopt an attitude of abundance and love rather than one of scarcity.  As our attitude changes so will our community and the value of BTS will grow to give us the abundance our combined society can generate.

This has been my feeling from the beginning.  I heartily 2nd the push for such a renewed focus and happy to see it being expressed by you here @bytemaster.

To those of you who have such reactionary fear over these ideas... whoa.. slow down and breathe!  These ideas aren't competing with the DEX, or even challenging it, they are in a whole other complimentary domain.  I understand the desire for focus, but there are a lot of us here, with different talents, and collectively we should have more than enough focus to advance on several fronts simultaneously.

For me personally, I can sell a movement, I can bring the masses into a movement.  What's hard for me is selling a DEX.  So when you fight against these ideas you're fighting against potential allies, and current allies such as me, who can access new demographics for BitShares in ways we never could with just a DEX.  The DEX is great, don't get me wrong, but it's got around .003% sex appeal, intrigue, and excitement to anyone outside of the crypto space.