Make no mistake, a predominantly silent war is being waged around us, which is terrifying when you consider the extent to which conflict and environmental destruction has visibly engulfed parts of the planet.  We are nearing the point in time when people are going to have to choose between the forces of dominion and the forces of freedom.

In order to choose, people need to wake up to a single truth.  The centralized control of money has enabled the worst, the most degenerate humans to enslave everything and everyone.  This enslavement is both physical and mental, with nothing untouched by the corruption.  The world in which we live is gradually being altered in ways that reflect the damaged psyches and grotesque appetites of parasitic monsters and their pet corporations. 

The power of BitShares is absolutely ideological.  Just think about it.  Think about what it means.  Bitshares is the antithesis of dominion and enslavement, a light in the dark.  If BitShares succeeds, think about all the people who will be given hope in the future, think of all the people who will no longer be ground to pieces, used and abused.  It brings tears to my eyes.

I believe this is what Satoshi wanted.  BitShares has the potential to succeed where Bitcoin has in many ways failed.  People are ready to hear that message.  Tell them what is at stake and give them the choice.  People will come in droves once they comprehend this single truth.

I apologize if this comes across a bit strong.  I just can't imagine a more powerful message than the truth of what BitShares could do for us all.  I understand the reason many of you would advise caution, given the uncompromising nature of the message.  Decentralized Wisdom & Consensus Rules!

For DNS it would be nice with a summary of this fix as well,

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10381.0

That fix was potentially subject to change so i'll leave it off for now....

Thank you Xeroc

I want to check my understanding of the BitShares allocations after the snapshot date (5th November 2014) and what actions need to be taken.  Please could I ask the community to check the veracity of the statements below and correct where appropriate.  I think this may help quite a few of us....

AGS 7% total allocation of BitShares – from 5th November 2014 snapshot – no action required other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client - 2yr vesting period applies

PTS 7% total allocation of BitShares - from 5th November 2014 snapshot – 2yr vesting period applies

In Wallet / no action required other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client

In Exchange / Some exchanges may honour the snapshot to PTS (Bter & BTC38) in which case PTS can remain on the exchange or you can ensure all your PTS are back in your wallet before 5th November 2014 snapshot, ready to import private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client 2 YEAR VESTING PERIOD APPLIES TO FUNDS HELD ON EXCHANGE

BTSX 80% total allocation of BitShares -

In Wallet / 1 to 1 allocation of Bitshares per BTSX – no action need be taken

On Exchange / 1 to 1 allocation of Bitshares per BTSX – no action need be taken

Unclaimed / 1 to 1 allocation of Bitshares per BTSX – no action need be taken other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client

DNS 3% total allocation of Bitshares - from 5th November 2014 – 2yr vesting period applies

In Wallet / no action required other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client

On Exchange / some exchanges may honour the snapshot to DNS (Bter & BTC38) in which case DNS can remain on the exchange or you can ensure all your PTS are back in your wallet before 5th November 2014 snapshot, ready to import private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client 2 YEAR VESTING PERIOD APPLIES TO FUNDS HELD ON EXCHANGE

Unclaimed / no action need be taken other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client

Vote 3% total allocation of Bitshares - Up to 21st August 2014 snapshot – All Unclaimed - no action need be taken other than import of private keys into newly rebranded BitShares Client - 2yr vesting period applies

Music unclaimed – TBC – AGS and PTS may still be awarded an allocation

Play unclaimed – TBC – AGS and PTS may still be awarded an allocation

DNS may live on - TBC

PTS may live on - TBC


Thanks for the help....

Added vesting periods......

Added warning re vesting period to notes about exchange held funds.....

Quote from: xeroc on October 22, 2014, 10:08:27 am

All what has been publishes was a proposal ...

This half-baked and incomplete "proposal"  is much more than that:

Quote from: bytemaster on October 21, 2014, 04:26:43 pm

This is a semi-final proposal that will be adopted and implemented unless someone has a VERY compelling argument.

So make a clear, rational and compelling argument as others are attempting.  BM will listen.

Quote from: fuzzy on October 21, 2014, 02:14:07 pm

Quote from: dlh on October 21, 2014, 02:10:44 pm

PTS AGS with the biggest difference is that PTS can free trade business, while AGS can't; so exchange AGS ratio is relatively high, but now the PTS with the AGS as to deal with it, is not unfair to PTS? This is not to let AGS can become a deal? Is not with the original issuing AGS contrary to the original intention?

I still do not see how it is unfair as those who donated to AGS still did so with the knowledge that they were risking FAR more than PTS.  PTS holders who have no AGS will have a hard time understanding that the relative risk they had by holding PTS could be liquidated at any time during the most critical growth phases of the project (when risk was Highest)...AGS knew the risk and took it anyway fully expecting to never be made liquid.  So to me it comes down to loyalty (and if loyalty deserves higher rewards)...but that is just me and as you probably know by now I'm borderline crazy in my loyalties sometimes. 

P.S.  even if AGS are made liquid, I have no intention of liquidating them.  I want to see what an older, wiser Bytemaster has in store for me 15 years from now...

When I see comments like this I really lose faith in this forum... Let me explain it very simply for you:

Your "high risk" investment in AGS was based on a social contract that required you to be "locked in" to your investment perpetually. In exchange for this "high risk" investment, you received 6X, let me repeat - 6 times, more equity than PTS investors for every dollar you spent. As a result, you now own 6X more BTSX for every dollar you invested. Now you are proposing that we "gift" AGS holders the liquidity of PTS, violate the social contract, AND allow you to maintain your 6X equity in not only future DACS, but also BTSX! So you get to double dip into BTSX, you get liquidity, you keep your 6X equity, ALL IN VIOLATION OF THE SOCIAL CONTRACT and sadly at the expense of PTS holders when half of your friends liquidate (please don't argue this if you value your reputation).

Still don't see it?

I think Alphabar is right.  The amusing thing is that AGS holders may be very happy with the risk they took due to the results....now we have to give back in order to progress.  Adhering as closely as possible to the social consensus is very important.  Let's not forget, it needs to be preserved for future DACs and third party allocations to all BTS holders.  In many ways it is the social consensus that binds us together and enables changes to be negotiated.

Quote from: bluebit on October 20, 2014, 04:19:47 pm

Do it, merge all into BitsharesX.  All funding should go into 1 DAC, and that funding can be distributed according to each DAC's need, so if someone doesn't know where to fund, they just fund the main DAC.

 

The devs have my full support to implement the BTS merger, and the sooner the better.

The DAC fragmentation/naming etc was a major stumbling block for marketing and investment.

Now folks can just buy BTS to invest in BTC 2.0.

Simple, clean and easy.

  We need an allocation drawn up for everyone to review that is as fair as possible so we can get on and agree it.  Then we need to implement asap so the market can see the benefits and stand amazed that a crypto company can be so nimble whilst retaining it's integrity! DPOS rules!