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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 比特帝国项目F：ID交易平台
« on: December 14, 2015, 02:35:59 am »
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中文 (Chinese) / BTS 系统中的三种资产
« on: December 10, 2015, 12:26:42 pm »
BTS系统有三种类型的资产
1.锚定资产 ，也就是我们常说锚定货币（BTA)，有 bitcny比特人民币，bitusd比特美元，biteur 比特欧元，bitgold比特黄金,bitsilver比特白银等等。这些资产都是由BTS抵押产生的，靠witness（见证人/代表）喂价格帮助锚定。
2.私人智能 资产，和锚定资产类似，也需要抵押产生，不同之处是由个人（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）创建，由创建者指定喂价者或者由witness（见证人/代表）喂价。 比如巨蟹创建的TCNY，值得注意的是私人智能资产同样是需要抵押产生的锚定货币， 和锚定资产的不同之处是 ，很多参数由发行者（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）决定，个人认为这能在BTS 尝试各种不同的锚定货币方案。
3.个人资产，也就是常说的UIA，是个人（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）发行的的代币/凭证。可以用于股权凭证，门票，会员积分 等等，“适用于不同凭证使用场景的法律法规可能天差地别，尤其是在不同国家时。所以，BitShares提供了一组工具来帮助发行人来合规发行和管理UIA。”
1.锚定资产 ，也就是我们常说锚定货币（BTA)，有 bitcny比特人民币，bitusd比特美元，biteur 比特欧元，bitgold比特黄金,bitsilver比特白银等等。这些资产都是由BTS抵押产生的，靠witness（见证人/代表）喂价格帮助锚定。
2.私人智能 资产，和锚定资产类似，也需要抵押产生，不同之处是由个人（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）创建，由创建者指定喂价者或者由witness（见证人/代表）喂价。 比如巨蟹创建的TCNY，值得注意的是私人智能资产同样是需要抵押产生的锚定货币， 和锚定资产的不同之处是 ，很多参数由发行者（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）决定，个人认为这能在BTS 尝试各种不同的锚定货币方案。
3.个人资产，也就是常说的UIA，是个人（包含通过多重签名的多人董事会）发行的的代币/凭证。可以用于股权凭证，门票，会员积分 等等，“适用于不同凭证使用场景的法律法规可能天差地别，尤其是在不同国家时。所以，BitShares提供了一组工具来帮助发行人来合规发行和管理UIA。”
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General Discussion / Re: List of price-stable coin projects by Rune
« on: December 10, 2015, 09:03:30 am »
also
bitcny
I think bitcny keep the value between 0.995~1.005 cny basically all the time
bitcny
I think bitcny keep the value between 0.995~1.005 cny basically all the time
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: transwiser发行私人智能货币的计划
« on: December 10, 2015, 03:18:04 am »熊 这么专业今天又开了点脑洞，开始想有没有可能发TUSD。香港公司做美元通道有额度限制吗？另外国际汇款体验怎么样啊，收/发的手续费大概多少？
BitUSD现在的瓶颈是，相对法币美元溢价太多，价格不稳定，而且缺乏与法币美元兑换的渠道。
如果参照TCNY的方式定义TUSD，并且做市，那么TUSD锚定美元是可以期待的。
然后找一家有相关条件的香港公司A，做TUSD承兑，收到TUSD后国际汇款付美元，收一定手续费。
A公司收到的TUSD，可以卖给transwiser，transwiser付人民币。
当用户相信TUSD随时可以兑付成美元时，那么是不是一定去兑付就不是那么重要了，在一些用户间TUSD就可以当一种可以自由转移的美元来用了。
这就是做paypal了啊，只是工具变成BTS客户端
香港离岸公司账户的额度是没有限制的，但是你做的太大来来往往太频繁会不会被监管盯上就不清楚了
国际汇款的体验很差，大银行之间可能一天内（最快），大银行到小银行之间一般3天内（最慢3，快的也可能1~2天到；只算工作日，周末还要除开），其实就是swift
跨国跨行电汇费用很高，一般总费用35~40美金/笔，同行互转可能20多美金能搞定。
至于美国A银行汇到美国B银行，我估计就会很便宜了应该不用走swift，具体费用不清楚（我估计也要几块钱吧，也可能能免费）
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General Discussion / Re: Market Maker Incentivization Worker Proposal ($300)
« on: December 09, 2015, 01:33:31 am »I notice two pointI don`t think it is a good idea to make Market Maker as a base feather of block chain protocol levelThe market maker is NOT implemented on the block chain level ..
The proposal proposes a way to PAY market makers for their liquidity!
1. "under this proposal we would introduce a new parameter to assets that allows the issuer to configure different market fees for makers vs takers "
2. hard-fork
if not block chain level ,why need to hard-fork
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General Discussion / Re: Market Maker Incentivization Worker Proposal ($300)
« on: December 08, 2015, 07:13:10 am »
I don`t think it is a good idea to make Market Maker as a base feather of block chain protocol level
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General Discussion / Re: @xeroc @abit @roadscape please give me a tutorial for how to use visual studio
« on: December 08, 2015, 01:32:34 am »
I have compiled cli_wallet.exe and witness, but cannot compile light-wallet.exe because lack of files
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 老狼进来看下，关于投票
« on: December 04, 2015, 09:24:27 am »@Harvey 老狼commitee 投票好像在GUI里面是没有效果, 求确认
给Witness的投票，如果只投票给一个Witness，票是作废的，建议你调整一下。
是否影响到Committee票不清楚。
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中文 (Chinese) / 有关锚定的句子
« on: December 04, 2015, 07:01:29 am »
1.锚定是软稳定.
2.强制清算让BITCNY变成了硬通货.
3.锚定会限制BTS的价格泡沫,某种意义上说有了锚定后,不利于BTS拉盘.
4.如果大家都完全信任bitcny后, 强制清算就变成摆设.
大家继续补充.
2.强制清算让BITCNY变成了硬通货.
3.锚定会限制BTS的价格泡沫,某种意义上说有了锚定后,不利于BTS拉盘.
4.如果大家都完全信任bitcny后, 强制清算就变成摆设.
大家继续补充.
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General Discussion / Re: Gold gateway
« on: December 04, 2015, 12:27:22 am »
i just heard this story
bm you are a 傻逼
a total 傻逼
a 傻逼 victim like
think about so many people work for bts ,but never require pay
think about some people do a lillte thing ,but require a lot of pay
傻逼 mean a person who easy to be deceived
bm you are a 傻逼
a total 傻逼
a 傻逼 victim like
think about so many people work for bts ,but never require pay
think about some people do a lillte thing ,but require a lot of pay
傻逼 mean a person who easy to be deceived
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General Discussion / Re: Smart Coins & Forced Settlement
« on: December 01, 2015, 04:39:41 am »we are lucky the whals don't read the whitepater carefully, if he know, he can force settlement all short position at such a long time.alt I think you can do it now , but I think you cannot succeed
you said other lack of real operation , please do it now
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General Discussion / Re: Smart Coins & Forced Settlement
« on: December 01, 2015, 03:11:24 am »
I think this debate sometimes useless , we should focus on the following question
1. Does must need settlement ?
Yes , I think ,must need , the purpose of settlement is to keep BTA( bitcny) value , describe it by formula is bitcny:cny >=1, it mean bitcny (more or less ) more valuable than cny .
2.what is withdraw of settlement?
Shorter have a risk of force settlement though he has a high collateral, we know short is a exchange with 2 times lever, if you also use the borrowed bitcny buy bts . so it have high profit/risk. I think it is reasonable .
3. what we can improve?
3.1 consider just keep bitcny:cny >=0.995, it mean the settle price is 0.995*feed price ( BTS/CNY, it is 1.005, if use CNY/BTS)
3.2 Settle price is when settle execute or the average price of 24 hours before execution as tonyk`s suggestion
1. Does must need settlement ?
Yes , I think ,must need , the purpose of settlement is to keep BTA( bitcny) value , describe it by formula is bitcny:cny >=1, it mean bitcny (more or less ) more valuable than cny .
2.what is withdraw of settlement?
Shorter have a risk of force settlement though he has a high collateral, we know short is a exchange with 2 times lever, if you also use the borrowed bitcny buy bts . so it have high profit/risk. I think it is reasonable .
3. what we can improve?
3.1 consider just keep bitcny:cny >=0.995, it mean the settle price is 0.995*feed price ( BTS/CNY, it is 1.005, if use CNY/BTS)
3.2 Settle price is when settle execute or the average price of 24 hours before execution as tonyk`s suggestion
I have a solution for your attack alt - use not last feed price but the 24h average price. It seems like 'expensive' operation but the fee is 1000BTS so it should cover it.
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Technical Support / Re: settlement is the best method to maniuplate the market
« on: December 01, 2015, 01:41:48 am »24 average price is different to calculate, why not just use the price when settlement execute.the key is a bitCNY holder can buy any volume at the same price.
imagine bitCNY can peg at rate 1:1 now
1. somebody collect 200K bitCNY first
2. ask for settlement
3. after about 22 hours, before the settlement be executed, he sell 200K CNY at BTC38, maniuplate the price down
4. waitting the settlement execute
if exchange like BTC38 do this, it's more easy.
shorters will found, they always be sold at a low price
it's not because they are unlucky, it's because the stupid rule.
this will loop again and again, until all bitCNY short position be settlement and no more stupid shorter continue the game.
I have a solution for your attack alt - use not last feed price but the 24h average price. It seems like 'expensive' operation but the fee is 1000BTS so it should cover it.
actually ,no matter what price you select, there always more or less problem.
settlement price is the price in 24 hours (settlement execute ) ,
