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Meta / Can a post change be reverted back to its original?
« on: September 08, 2015, 09:51:40 pm »
I just accidentally modified the post today for the 8-8-28-15 hangout (so I could then just copy and paste it into a new post for 9-4-15).  But I accidentally saved it and lost the link to the hangout
is there a way to change it back?
 

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General Discussion / Hangout Attendance | 9-4-15
« on: September 07, 2015, 07:48:35 pm »
Below is the documentation for hangout attendance of our last hangout (4 SEP 15). 

Please make sure to update your information in this spreadsheet so I can ensure you receive your brownies.

Check out the Chat Log to cross reference.  If you find and prove I have made a mistake I will gladly fix it. 

Compiled List of Attendees:
Will complete tonight after work.  I took the family to Ripley's Believe It or Not this weekend...so I'm a day behind.  Sorry for being late.


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General Discussion / Hangout Attendance | 8-28-15
« on: August 31, 2015, 09:21:32 am »
Below is the documentation for hangout attendance of our last hangout (28 AUG 15). 

Please make sure to update your information in this spreadsheet so I can ensure you receive your brownies.

Check out the Chat Log to cross reference.  If you find and prove I have made a mistake I will gladly fix it. 

*Update* Brownies sent

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See you then!

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General Discussion / Code Academy Learning Path?
« on: August 27, 2015, 06:40:04 pm »
I am planning to start a weekly Study Group where members of the community can join and learn to code together once a week.  Naturally there will be time to do it on one's own (without the group) as well, but I think it helps to have a weekly group for the same purpose. 

My questions, though, are:
A) does https://www.codecademy.com/learn have a particular learning path that would be most beneficial to our ecosystem?
B) are there any of these subjects that are low on the list of priorities?  High on the list?

I spoke with kencode a bit about this, and walked away thinking html/css/javascript would be the way forward.  This is because once a little learning crew gains a solid level of understanding of how to work with those, they will be able to work learn react.js--which is apparently where we need to go.  I am interested in others' thoughts though as well, of course.  :)

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General Discussion / Hangout Attendance | 8-21-15
« on: August 23, 2015, 07:53:55 pm »
Below is the documentation for hangout attendance of our last hangout (21 AUG 15). 

Please make sure to update your information in this spreadsheet so I can ensure you receive your brownies.

Check out the Chat Log to cross reference.  If you find and prove I have made a mistake I will gladly fix it. 

Compiled List of Attendees (taken from above and the images below):
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betax
ccedk
clout
cryptfun
cryptosile
datasecuritynode-com
dmo09
facer
favdesu
free2
i-feel-appreciated
ihashfury
ingenesist
IntMaster
jakub
James212
jerry
jwf
kenCode
lafona
lil_jay890
malcolmjmr
moster
Pheonike
puppies
ReWeR
Samupaha
stan
sxis
tbonenyc
thistome
Thom
tiau
werneo
WildWex
xeldal
xeroc

Screenshots before and after hangout:
Before

After

175
General Discussion / Feasibility of a Tool to Empower all of us?
« on: August 23, 2015, 06:20:12 pm »
I am a coder on a very basic level.  I understand the concepts and components to code.  I know what Psuedo code is, boolean, if/then, loops, object oriented vs procedural...etc.  But this is not an area of deep expertise for me. 

With that said, I am trying to get public input on how much time and effort would go into the creation of a bot that all community members could use to link their wallets to bitshares-friendly media outlets and services.  But the biggest thing is that I need to be able to assess approximately how much time and effort would go into it so I can figure out if it is plausible to have it built.

What would it do?
After the wallet "links up" to the sites, it will randomly share their content to twitter, reddit, facebook...etc.  The key would be to enable community members to grab this tool, change some parameters to their liking, connect up their social media accounts with the bot/wallet, and automate the sharing of content from those places to individuals' personal networks.  This would help with Grass Roots referrals, but not only that...to be able to be paid in a token of some sort for it that would eventually be able to be required for payment from the service itself (in many years to come).  Automation of this could in my estimation help create a trickling little income stream (and potentially one heck of a sharedrop target) for the common bitshares fan. 

I mean an Army of Bots managed by real people who can leverage their own real, trust-based relationships marketing a product to them that  will change their lives for the better and make money for the referrer...is pretty powerful.  And most importantly, it would give everyone the ability to indisputably earn something as long as they have a computer with minimal resources. 

I just want to come up with a proposal for the construction of such a bot so we can give ownership of it to the BitShares-Powered Community and I feel this would be a solid start on giving everyone at large an easy way of earning something of value (ie making a token intrinsically valuable over time as the service provided grows in maturity and efficiency) that cannot be considered unfairly distributed. 

So anyone with a deep level of coding experience here able to give an idea of how much time/effort this would require?

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General Discussion / Hangout Attendance | 8-14-15
« on: August 18, 2015, 08:17:37 pm »
Below is the documentation for hangout attendance of our last hangout (14 AUG 15). 

Please make sure to update your own information in this spreadsheet so I can ensure you receive your brownies.

Quote
[8:45:02 AM] tuckfheman connected.
[8:45:02 AM] tuckfheman moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:45:02 AM] tuckfheman is now muted.
[8:46:02 AM] nomoreheroes7 connected.
[8:46:02 AM] nomoreheroes7 moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:46:02 AM] nomoreheroes7 is now muted and deafened.
[8:46:18 AM] nomoreheroes7 is now unmuted.
[8:46:18 AM] nomoreheroes7 is now muted.
[8:46:58 AM] favdesu_mobile connected.
[8:47:08 AM] favdesu_mobile entered channel.
[8:47:11 AM] favdesu_mobile is now unmuted.
[8:47:12 AM] favdesu_mobile is now muted.
[8:47:17 AM] jwf-mobile connected.
[8:47:33 AM] bobble connected.
[8:47:37 AM] bobble entered channel.
[8:47:58 AM] Xeldal connected.
[8:47:58 AM] Xeldal moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:47:58 AM] Xeldal is now muted.
[8:48:45 AM] Glamorc connected.
[8:48:45 AM] Glamorc moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:48:52 AM] lafona connected.
[8:49:03 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: I started working on BitShares Island this week for all BITN members. http://i.imgur.com/bSxYvlT.jpg ;)
[8:49:15 AM] lafona entered channel.
[8:49:48 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: I take it tuck
[8:50:10 AM] Ander connected.
[8:50:15 AM] Ander entered channel.
[8:50:35 AM] kenCode connected.
[8:50:35 AM] kenCode moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:51:01 AM] jwf-mobile moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by jabbajabba.
[8:51:02 AM] FuzzyCell connected.
[8:51:02 AM] FuzzyCell moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:51:22 AM] lafona is now unmuted.
[8:51:26 AM] lafona is now muted.
[8:51:35 AM] lafona is now unmuted.
[8:51:44 AM] (Channel) kenCode: yep
[8:51:48 AM] lafona is now muted.
[8:51:53 AM] (Channel) lafona: cool
[8:51:53 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Check
[8:52:16 AM] lil_jay890 disconnected.
[8:52:19 AM] FuzzyCell moved to PLAY Room.
[8:52:28 AM] spartako connected.
[8:52:28 AM] spartako moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:52:28 AM] spartako is now muted.
[8:52:28 AM] hadrian connected.
[8:52:28 AM] hadrian moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:52:44 AM] Glamorc disconnected.
[8:52:45 AM] Stan moved to PLAY room #1.
[8:53:41 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: @fav u should see the island vrontis is on.
[8:53:54 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: it changes with the waves
[8:53:56 AM] cryptosile connected.
[8:54:11 AM] cryptosile entered channel.
[8:54:14 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: moving island in Greece
[8:54:31 AM] DataSecurityNode connected.
[8:54:31 AM] DataSecurityNode moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:54:35 AM] bytemaster connected.-+
[8:54:35 AM] bytemaster moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:54:57 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: HEY!
[8:54:58 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: helloooooo
[8:55:00 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: made it just in time
[8:55:01 AM] (Channel) Ander: hi!
[8:55:02 AM] (Channel) lafona: hi
[8:55:08 AM] (Channel) spartako: hi!
[8:55:09 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Whatsup
[8:55:11 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: awesome
[8:55:16 AM] (Channel) lafona: splendid
[8:55:17 AM] thistome started recording.
[8:55:20 AM] (Channel) ebit: hi
[8:55:27 AM] (Channel) kenCode: sweaty
[8:55:33 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: i feel like 100 BTS
[8:55:42 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode:
[8:55:47 AM] EstefanTT connected.
[8:55:48 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: or 100 bitUSD I guess ;)
[8:55:51 AM] (Channel) jwf-mobile: good. morning BM
[8:56:02 AM] EstefanTT entered channel.
[8:56:03 AM] Crypto-Prometheus connected.
[8:56:03 AM] Crypto-Prometheus moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:56:04 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now muted.
[8:56:05 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: I value BTS @ $1 so it's the same.
[8:56:07 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: I herd eth offers 15% more on a sharedrop :D
[8:56:14 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: mos def!
[8:56:25 AM] (Channel) Ander: tuck is that a good or bad feeling :P
[8:56:28 AM] sxis connected.
[8:56:33 AM] sxis entered channel.
[8:56:51 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: @ander valuing bts @ $1?
[8:57:01 AM] (Channel) Ander: feeling like a hundred bts
[8:57:04 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: soooo how about that ETH huh? :)
[8:57:04 AM] Pheonike connected.
[8:57:04 AM] Pheonike moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:57:08 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: oh 100 bitUSD yeah that's decent enough for me
[8:57:15 AM] tbonenyc started recording.
[8:57:25 AM] tuckfheman started recording.
[8:57:31 AM] GChicken connected.
[8:57:31 AM] GChicken moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:57:32 AM] GChicken is now muted.
[8:57:52 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: Did you buy/sell ETH!?!?! :)
[8:57:59 AM] (Channel) kenCode: status on that bank you mentioned?
[8:58:02 AM] (Channel) GChicken: hi all :)
[8:58:10 AM] Thom is now unmuted.
[8:58:12 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: haha same
[8:58:18 AM] PhillyGuy connected.
[8:58:18 AM] PhillyGuy moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:58:19 AM] PhillyGuy is now muted.
[8:58:22 AM] ihashfury is now unmuted.
[8:58:25 AM] facer connected.
[8:58:30 AM] facer entered channel.
[8:58:33 AM] Thom started recording.
[8:58:39 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now unmuted.
[8:58:40 AM] hadrian started recording.
[8:58:41 AM] (Channel) kenCode: cool, so it's still a go, right on :)
[8:58:44 AM] James212 connected.
[8:58:44 AM] James212 moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:58:44 AM] James212 is now muted.
[8:58:51 AM] bytemaster moved to PLAY Room.
[8:58:53 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now muted.
[8:58:54 AM] i-feel-appreciated connected.
[8:59:02 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: hugs
[8:59:02 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now unmuted.
[8:59:05 AM] i-feel-appreciated moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by jabbajabba.
[8:59:09 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now muted.
[8:59:15 AM] (Channel) kenCode: love the username i-feel-appreciated :)
[8:59:15 AM] ebit moved to PLAY Room.
[8:59:41 AM] Riverheadx connected.
[8:59:41 AM] Riverheadx moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:59:56 AM] ccedk connected.
[8:59:56 AM] ccedk moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[8:59:57 AM] BtsABC.org-阿强 is now muted.
[9:00:04 AM] bytemaster entered channel.
[9:00:11 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: If testnet was released tomorrow.. what would be the first issue people would find?
[9:00:16 AM] (Channel) BuckFankers: this is unofficially officially episode 100 for beyond bitcoin.
[9:00:22 AM] clayop_jaewoo connected.
[9:00:22 AM] clayop_jaewoo moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:00:23 AM] clayop_jaewoo is now muted.
[9:00:24 AM] (Channel) kenCode: +1
[9:00:28 AM] ebit entered channel.
[9:00:49 AM] Stan entered channel.
[9:01:08 AM] Glamorc connected.
[9:01:08 AM] Glamorc moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:01:31 AM] lil_jay890 connected.
[9:01:38 AM] lil_jay890 entered channel.
[9:01:42 AM] Undeafened.
[9:01:43 AM] Unmuted.
[9:01:56 AM] pollux connected.
[9:01:56 AM] pollux moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:01:56 AM] pollux is now muted.
[9:02:13 AM] edilliam connected.
[9:02:13 AM] edilliam moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:02:13 AM] edilliam is now muted.
[9:02:24 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Can the Graphine CLI wallet do multisig today?
[9:02:37 AM] (Channel) kenCode: Welcome CCEDK :)
[9:03:01 AM] ingenesist connected.
[9:03:01 AM] ingenesist moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:03:02 AM] ingenesist is now muted and deafened.
[9:03:08 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Not that bad then
[9:03:20 AM] BtsABC.org-阿强 is now muted and deafened.
[9:03:28 AM] GChicken started recording.
[9:03:30 AM] ingenesist is now unmuted.
[9:03:31 AM] lafona started recording.
[9:03:33 AM] ccedk started recording.
[9:03:37 AM] Recording started
[9:03:42 AM] DataSecurityNode started recording.
[9:03:49 AM] (Channel) kenCode: full room today, nice
[9:04:08 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: For the brownies :(
[9:04:17 AM] (Channel) kenCode: ;)
[9:04:47 AM] jakub connected.
[9:04:47 AM] jakub moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:04:47 AM] jakub is now muted.
[9:05:48 AM] (Channel) kenCode: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/board,96.0.html
[9:06:46 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: So a white listed blockchain with kyc?
[9:08:08 AM] CarpeRide connected.
[9:08:10 AM] sxis disconnected.
[9:08:11 AM] CarpeRide entered channel.
[9:08:20 AM] You muted CarpeRide.
[9:08:42 AM] CarpeRide is now muted.
[9:09:47 AM] sxis connected.
[9:09:48 AM] arhag connected.
[9:09:48 AM] arhag moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:09:48 AM] arhag is now muted.
[9:09:51 AM] sxis moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by jabbajabba.
[9:09:54 AM] sxis is now muted.
[9:12:51 AM] spartako disconnected.
[9:13:13 AM] spartako connected.
[9:13:13 AM] spartako moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:13:13 AM] spartako is now muted.
[9:13:40 AM] Crypto-Prometheus is now unmuted.
[9:13:49 AM] godzirra connected.
[9:13:49 AM] godzirra moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:13:49 AM] godzirra is now muted.
[9:13:54 AM] CarpeRide is now muted and deafened.
[9:14:01 AM] CarpeRide is now unmuted.
[9:14:05 AM] CarpeRide is now muted.
[9:15:30 AM] To bytemaster: (whisper)
I think you are bumping your mic or something :)
[9:15:31 AM] CarpeRide disconnected.
[9:15:46 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Has the share drop snapshot date been announced?
[9:17:12 AM] CarpeRide connected.
[9:17:15 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: A lot
[9:17:22 AM] CarpeRide entered channel.
[9:17:56 AM] (Channel) lil_jay890: announcing my presence for brownies
[9:18:10 AM] (Channel) Xeldal: I don't think it will
[9:18:38 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: It's a very good approach imo
[9:20:06 AM] (Channel) Xeldal: In addition you'll have the same dump when it is realesed/ announced
[9:20:24 AM] (Channel) James212: will one need to claim all BTS (BTS allocations for the merger last Nov) to be able to be given credit in the share drop?
[9:20:41 AM] ccedk disconnected.
[9:21:12 AM] (Channel) kenCode: uh oh
[9:21:15 AM] ccedk connected.
[9:21:15 AM] ccedk moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:21:19 AM] (Channel) kenCode: oh good
[9:22:41 AM] (Channel) kenCode: they should pay me to advertise to me in my email inbox
[9:24:42 AM] betax connected.
[9:24:42 AM] betax moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:24:42 AM] betax is now muted.
[9:24:45 AM] werneo connected.
[9:24:45 AM] werneo moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:24:46 AM] werneo is now muted.
[9:25:39 AM] thistome is now muted.
[9:25:45 AM] betax started recording.
[9:27:08 AM] (Channel) kenCode: sweeeeeet
[9:27:33 AM] (Channel) PhillyGuy: BIG NEWS
[9:27:43 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Great news
[9:27:56 AM] (Channel) PhillyGuy: Congrats dev team on getting to this point w/ Graphene!
[9:28:01 AM] (Channel) Ander: awesome job!
[9:28:16 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Does the ref system work already?
[9:29:00 AM] (Channel) Fox:
How is the testnet going: peak transaction per second?
[9:29:03 AM] WildWex-Mobile connected.
[9:29:11 AM] WildWex-Mobile entered channel.
[9:29:16 AM] WildWex-Mobile is now muted.
[9:31:59 AM] (Channel) Fox:
How can the community contribute to up this peak?
[9:32:42 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: https://www.everydaycrypto.com/?page_id=107
[9:33:56 AM] (Channel) ihashfury:
is this a problem to graphene http://www.coindesk.com/new-cracking-tool-exposes-major-flaw-in-bitcoin-brainwallets/

[9:34:11 AM] (Channel) kenCode: detect those disconnects too, no memory leaks
[9:34:30 AM] (Channel) GChicken: fyi edge (ie on win10) browser on windows mobile devices seemed to work fine on the test
[9:36:19 AM] (Channel) kenCode: thanx BM
[9:36:45 AM] (Channel) kenCode: good news
[9:37:35 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Will multisig help mitigate?
[9:37:56 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Thanks
[9:37:59 AM] CarpeRide disconnected.
[9:38:14 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Will gui have multi?
[9:38:26 AM] (Channel) Fox:
What value do you see in subjecting the codebase to review by a third party reviewer? Is this a valuable Worker proposal at some point? Such as CryptoCurrency Certification Consortium (C4). Disclaimer: no relation nor enforcement thereof.
[9:38:26 AM] (Channel) kenCode: sxis +1
[9:38:33 AM] BtsABC.org-阿强 disconnected.
[9:38:59 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Oops endorsement
[9:39:36 AM] WildWex-Mobile moved to Beyond Bitcoin.
[9:39:42 AM] (Channel) hadrian: I don't have any friends... :(
[9:39:53 AM] WildWex-Mobile moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by jabbajabba.
[9:40:00 AM] (Channel) hadrian: :)
[9:40:04 AM] WildWex-Mobile moved to AFK.
[9:40:21 AM] (Channel) kenCode: great for a DAC or a coffee shop account
[9:40:46 AM] (Channel) kenCode: they take crypto in all day, would be piece of mind for the shop owner
[9:41:38 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: what about 2FA? will that be available upon release of 2.0?
[9:41:59 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: timeframe for 2FA?
[9:42:07 AM] Riverheadx disconnected.
[9:42:24 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: just use another wallet on your phone
[9:43:29 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: jabbajabba: what if phone gets lost?
[9:43:33 AM] cryptosile is now unmuted.
[9:43:38 AM] (Channel) Crypto-Prometheus: ooooo controversy
[9:43:38 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Oh good grief
[9:43:43 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: dont lose you prhone
[9:43:45 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: well ... we can't go any lower on market cap :) .. might as well :)
[9:43:47 AM] cryptosile is now muted.
[9:43:59 AM] (Channel) betax: :D
[9:44:01 AM] Pheonike disconnected.
[9:44:01 AM] Pheonike connected.
[9:44:01 AM] Pheonike moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:44:38 AM] (Channel) betax: yes no probs... have not moved mine .. only bought a few brownies
[9:44:44 AM] (Channel) betax: and notes
[9:44:46 AM] (Channel) lafona: @tbonenyc make it 2 of 3 multisig and keep other on laptop or offline computer
[9:44:47 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Interesting, must consider.
[9:44:49 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: how about gretaer % of sharedrops in exchange for locking up funds?
[9:44:58 AM] Pheonike disconnected.
[9:45:15 AM] (Channel) Ander: Sounds interesting as a way to combat nothing at stake attacks - provided that the extra stake votes go away before they have access again (and could dump)
[9:45:20 AM] WildWex-Mobile disconnected.
[9:45:44 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Is giving a loan considered locking up?
[9:45:54 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Just like with nubits but without yield?
[9:46:08 AM] (Channel) Ander: like nubits but instead of yield youre getting vote power
[9:46:16 AM] jwf-mobile is now muted and deafened.
[9:46:25 AM] jwf-mobile is now unmuted.
[9:46:27 AM] jwf-mobile is now muted.
[9:46:29 AM] CarpeRide connected.
[9:46:30 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: does doing this give any unfair advantage to larger stakeholders?
[9:47:21 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: Could this hurt BTS utility?
[9:47:31 AM] Pheonike connected.
[9:47:31 AM] Pheonike moved in from Beyond Bitcoin by the server.
[9:47:32 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Meh. Don't think it's worth the work/time
[9:48:22 AM] (Channel) sxis:
I think you should do it where the multiple can only be used for one vote
[9:48:22 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Roadmap this to 2.2+
[9:48:23 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: pay interest instead
[9:48:52 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Eg they can use this multiple for things they really think are necessary
[9:49:01 AM] (Channel) sxis:
And they have to pick and choose
[9:49:17 AM] (Channel) cryptosile:
Timeline for testnet, 2-3 weeks a feature freeze happens. At that point will devshares be released? The devshares release will that be in the graphene repo as a branch or its own repo or something else?
[9:49:20 AM] (Channel) James212: sounds like a good idea!
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[9:49:43 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: do it for brownie.pts
[9:49:52 AM] (Channel) Ander: sxis, I think that would just lock people into a vote they dotn like after a while. for example, if your vote contains a vote for a delegate who isnt working anymore, and you want to change, you wouldnt be able to without losing the multiple for your other 99 delegate votes
[9:49:59 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: @lafona: i'll have to explore multisifg when the time comes. but i do think 2FA is very nice to have
[9:50:20 AM] (Channel) cryptosile:
On locking funds the big downside is just more complexity
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[9:51:11 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Good ideas are not always great ideas
[9:52:16 AM] (Channel) ccedk: or early hours vs late hours
[9:52:33 AM] To ingenesist: (whisper) do you agree/disagree?

[9:53:20 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: envious
[9:53:38 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: attitude of gratitude folks :)
[9:53:39 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba:
[9:54:10 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: that's all fine. but i think diluting brownies in any substantial way would be problematic.
[9:54:29 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Can you comment on social contract-- bts,ags,pts owners are getting less than 20% because devs are getting a percentage through inflation
[9:54:47 AM] (Channel) sxis:
Is the social contract now drifting away?
[9:54:59 AM] To Conference Room (Live): Add your information here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1amqTZZ0dllmEEONW6qvc_07CE1mqcEk0SYRPU4phgEc/edit?usp=sharing
to ensure easy receipt of your brownies :)
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[9:56:52 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: I have 2 mumble names...now what?
[9:57:21 AM] (Channel) Ander: jabba, now you are performing a sybil attack for extra brownies? :P
[9:57:38 AM] To Conference Room (Live): this is certainly a concern at present.
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[9:58:14 AM] (Channel) Crypto-Prometheus: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17354.0.html
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[9:59:07 AM] (Channel) arhag: What do you mean when you say sign?
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[10:00:30 AM] (Channel) GChicken: anyone know if the current market rate for brownies is a good price..? (6.5bts/brownie)
[10:00:41 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Too cheap
[10:01:29 AM] (Channel) Ander: GChicken, its around the middle of the range that brownies have gone for
[10:02:53 AM] (Channel) tbonenyc: what about the dilution issue?
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[10:03:05 AM] (Channel) GChicken: seems like not a bad time to pick up some extras ;) and support the buynside for later
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[10:04:15 AM] (Channel) hadrian: Are there any gateways or external exchanges selling brownies?
[10:04:33 AM] (Channel) Crypto-Prometheus: entitled grumpy coin?
[10:04:34 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: ... which seems to be what we have some of now.. <SNAP!>
[10:04:43 AM] (Channel) Ander: many people will become less grumpy soon once BTS rises :)
[10:04:54 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Hehe
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[10:06:05 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: smartdrop
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[10:06:41 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: haha sure :)
[10:06:42 AM] (Channel) Ander: smartdropping :)
[10:06:43 AM] (Channel) kenCode: gross
[10:06:46 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: BROWNIES PLLLEEEASE! :)
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[10:07:32 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: ZIDEX!!! :)
[10:07:42 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: IDEX
[10:07:44 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: =b
[10:08:13 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: IDEX is good too I agree
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[10:08:23 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: its a child of ZIDEX afterall :)
[10:08:26 AM] (Channel) kenCode: dude, BitShares frikn rocks :)
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[10:08:51 AM] (Channel) betax: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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[10:10:39 AM] (Channel) lafona: gotta run, thanks again guys
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[10:10:47 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: i have a link
[10:11:01 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: well no one listens to me
[10:11:21 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: see lafona
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[10:11:27 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: see ya lafoa
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[10:11:36 AM] (Channel) Ander: should we edit the spreadsheet in some way to note taht we were here today?
[10:11:37 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: http://149.210.187.155/MumPI/?view=json&serverId=1
[10:11:38 AM] (Channel) jabbajabba: http://149.210.187.155/MumPI/?view=json&serverId=1
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[10:12:05 AM] To Conference Room (Live): you can but I will be checking it against the log :)
[10:12:07 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: like Omniwallet
[10:12:13 AM] To Conference Room (Live): that is a good idea actually
[10:12:28 AM] (Channel) favdesu_mobile: Like electrum
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[10:14:29 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Can you explain the creation of a multisig wallet?
[10:15:51 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Do all parties contribute in some way to the initial wallet creation?
[10:15:55 AM] (Channel) arhag: Did you read what I wrote about Oleg's blinded signature?
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[10:16:12 AM] (Channel) arhag: About the committed nonce issue?
[10:16:35 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: sorry.. I think I heard this but maybe I missed it.. Nathan will be releasing the webwallet where we can run our own fullnode wallet.. we will be able to take our client wallet accounts and import them into that if we want?
[10:16:46 AM] (Channel) arhag: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,17315.msg226523.html#msg226523
[10:17:49 AM] (Channel) arhag: Thanks
[10:17:54 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: arhag rocks
[10:18:01 AM] (Channel) Ander: many brownies for arhag!
[10:18:06 AM] (Channel) Ander: he is amazing
[10:18:12 AM] (Channel) Fox:
+5
[10:18:14 AM] (Channel) testz: +5 :-)
[10:18:20 AM] (Channel) arhag: The issue is if you rebroadcast a transaction
[10:18:32 AM] (Channel) arhag: You use the same k value for two different digests
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[10:19:12 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: bye thanks
[10:19:32 AM] (Channel) testz: thanks
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[10:20:06 AM] (Channel) ihashfury:
Cheers
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[10:22:26 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode:
[10:23:00 AM] (Channel) kenCode: images show as a mountain of raw text
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[10:23:49 AM] (Channel) Thom: Hmmm... Wonder why. Images show up as images to me. Good one DSN
[10:23:57 AM] (Channel) Fox:
http://colony.io looks like a possible future solution. Perhaps could be tied to our blockchain.

[10:24:18 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Proof of cognition
[10:24:28 AM] (Channel) hadrian: it says "you don't have to be great to start, but you have to start to be great"
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[10:25:19 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: you're not the boss of me zig zagler!
[10:25:38 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: satoshi identified!... in bitshares.. goto... :P
[10:25:47 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: ya
[10:26:14 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: kencode is Joe MacMillan =)
[10:26:15 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: halt and catch fire was the best.. too bad they are not looking at a season 3
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[10:26:40 AM] (Channel) Thom: Awe, bummer to hear that.
[10:26:51 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: Poor joe mcmillian... his character will never get closure after all that betrayal
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[10:27:25 AM] (Channel) Thom: You reap what you sow. Joe never seems to get that.
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[10:27:50 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: let me clarify, kencode talks like Joe MacMillan.
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[10:28:28 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: when I heard kencode talk one day, he sounded just like the character.
[10:28:31 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: haha... thats high praise.. his sales speak and closing was textbook perfection
[10:28:32 AM] (Channel) ccedk: will go also, ahev a great day
[10:28:35 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: right
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[10:28:45 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: laterz
[10:28:45 AM] (Channel) hadrian: Bye everyone!
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[10:28:52 AM] (Channel) GChicken: cheers fuzzy
[10:28:53 AM] (Channel) testz: Bye! Thanks!
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[10:29:10 AM] (Channel) Thom: Joe is guided by his subconscious, which causes him to repeat his mistake of manipulation over & over.
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[10:29:25 AM] (Channel) tuckfheman: love that show and Mr. Robot
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[10:29:42 AM] (Channel) Fox:
Who here has done multisig on graphinene?
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[10:31:06 AM] (Channel) DataSecurityNode: wow.. I never seen a hangout not have an afterparty :)
[10:32:17 AM] To Conference Room (Live): I would love to have one...but this week is the week i'm moving
[10:32:24 AM] To Conference Room (Live): we have been packing so much crap up...
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[10:32:28 AM] To Conference Room (Live): and moving so much crap
[10:32:33 AM] To Conference Room (Live): so...much...crap
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General Discussion / Hangout Attendance | 8-7-15 |
« on: August 08, 2015, 05:15:42 pm »
If you have not already done so, please visit the following link to the Google Spreadsheet and update your information by adding it in the appropriate locations (make sure to put your info in alphabetical order to others).  This will make it far easier to disburse.

This is the attendance logged for Friday's hangout:

abit
alt
arhag
betax
bitscape
ccedk
clayop_jaweoo
clout
cryptfun
cryptoprometheus
datasecuritynode
ebit
edilliam
facer
fox
free2
GChicken
godzirra
hadrian
ihashfury0
ingenesist
jakub
james212
jcalfee
jwf-mobile
kencode
lafona
luckybit
Max
mclane
mclane
pheonike
phillyguy
roadscape
sxis
tammer
tbonenyc
testz-pc
theredpill
thistome
thom
twitter
werneo
wildwex
xeldal


*If there is a name missing from this list, please inform me*

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General Discussion / Please add your info here for Brownies
« on: August 02, 2015, 09:57:18 pm »
Please Fill Out this spreadsheet with your info for brownies.  We need this for proper distribution.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1amqTZZ0dllmEEONW6qvc_07CE1mqcEk0SYRPU4phgEc/edit#gid=1363886871


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