Quote from: biophil on January 22, 2015, 09:26:10 pm

I've also learned around here that promises of new websites aren't generally to be taken very seriously. Maybe that will be different now in the post-Brian Page world.

i fully can understand your feelings … hopefully we can convince you this time .. i can just speak from design point of view ... content is another part ...

Haha, I certainly didn't mean to disparage your work, cass! Much respect for you and what you do.

The real question is: who would short oil at today's prices? If/when we finally do get oil going, there's a good chance it will trade above the peg.

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Quote from: biophil on January 20, 2015, 10:14:56 pm

Anybody else having problems depositing BTS to bter post-hardfork?

This happens frequently after new releases.  They generally fix it in a day or so.

Lovely. beautiful arbitrage opportunities are just floating by...

I have 2 accounts within 1 wallet, and the "Keys" tab is not visible on 1. Clicking on the Keys tab brings up the Price Feeds (blank entry). Anything I can do to get this tab back?

What version are you running? Are either of the accounts registered on the blockchain?

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Another issue that nobody has brought up yet is that in the US, I believe it's illegal for the owners of a publicly-traded company to be anonymous. This is the issue the whitelisting is trying to get around, I think. But for you as the guy running the company, I think you have to keep paperwork that shows exactly who owns which shares of the company at any given time.

If you tried to structure your securities as a debt instrument, this might not apply... but I am not experienced in such things.

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Assuming I've understood the proposition correctly, I don't think that what is being suggested in the OP will actually help to narrow the spreads. If it were possible, then any stock exchange for example could simply offer cross-stock trades (creating the required triangularities) to improve the liquidity and spreads in each of its stock listings.

Instead what I think would happen is that all three pairs would trade at spreads, and the cost of trading around the triangle would limit arbitrage as before. Eg if you created a market in BTC/USD and got hit on your buy BTC / sell USD order, you could not simultaneously sell BTC for BTS and buy USD for BTS without incurring the spread costs in those markets, meaning the arbitrage is ineffective. Instead you would need to wait to get hit on those positions at market or better, in which case you are simply assuming the risk of the market-maker.

That's correct; arbitrage doesn't directly add liquidity, it removes it. Every time someone executes a triangular arbitrage trade, the order book gets smaller.

Obviously, arbitrage is still extremely valuable, since it enforces price consistency. It's even possible that allowing arbitrage will help increase liquidity indirectly since there will be more market activity, which compounds into more activity.

Quote from: biophil on January 17, 2015, 12:05:23 am

To get a 1st-hand perspective of what our recent NuBits-bashing is like, go over to the Nxt forum and try to start a discussion on BitShares. The mindless tribalistic hatred you will experience is something we should be very careful not to dish out to our competitors.

Well-thought-out criticism is great, but whatever we do, we should never act like the Nxt folks.

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Sorry, but that's álso a generalisation
Some obviously do, and that's their problem.

Others (which is most probably the silent majority) are interested in both Nxt, Bitshares and a few others systems, too.

One of the problems is that the people who like to shout (in ány community) shout very loudly, up to the point where communities look like they are made up of a group of shouting baboons at time.

That happens on Bitcointalk, Nxt forum and no doubt you at times have the same.

I am admin on the Nxt forum, and no, I do not hate Bitshares. Neither do any of my colleagues. I may have my doubts about some things, but am open to being persuaded, like any sane person would be. I lurk here and also read along. It's only normal to do so.

"the Nxt folks" do not exist. Any community is diverse and will include nice and less nice people.

Welcome, Damelon!

I realize that when I talk about "the Nxt folks," I'm mostly talking about 2Kool4Skewl. It's what you said - the people who shout loudly are the ones who the community becomes known for, and there's nothing that the "good" community members can do about that. I know as well as anybody that we have "the BitShares folks" too.

I guess I was trying to put in a word to help people be less like 2Kool4Skewl and/or tonyk (one of our loudmouths around here), and I'm sorry that I implicated the good people at Nxt. Don't worry, I really do know that you aren't all that way!