Here: http://www1.agsexplorer.com/

They're coming up on the 1000 BTC mark.

Quote from: cass on November 13, 2014, 02:30:39 pm

may i can ask why you'Re posting this under newbie section!? Just curious …

Seemed like kind of a newbie question to ask.

Haha, excellent answer. Nobody ever gives you enough credit, freetrade.

The account name squatting problem was the first major debacle of BTSX. The team made account names non-transferable so that they would have no economic value, so people would have no incentive to squat names. Then the team forgot to tell people that names were non-transferable. Classic Dr. Strangelove: build a doomsday device that only works if people know about it, then forget to let people know about it, ensuring that doomsday occurs.

Quote from: biophil on November 12, 2014, 11:27:44 pm

aaaaand cue the FUD.

That is a rather cheap counterargument. Why not give a rational explanation instead of unfounded accusation?

Oh, that wasn't meant as a counterargument. I said that because the accusatory content of your comment made it sound like you had already decided exactly what you thought and that you wouldn't be interested in argument. If I interpreted your comment incorrectly, please accept my apologies for my rude reply.

Compare two scenarios: in scenario A, Invictus keeps all the donated PTS, severely hampering the efforts of those who want to upgrade it to DPOS (it would be effectively impossible to perform this upgrade and maintain the integrity of PTS if only one entity holds such a large fraction of the total coins).

In scenario B, Invictus returns all PTS to the original donators. Now PTS can gracefully upgrade to PTS with a fair distribution, and the community largely supports the move.

Now, which scenario is better? I think it's pretty obvious that B is better, even before we consider all the other benefits (taxes, SEC compliance, etc etc). So why are you so critical of this move? Who does it harm? AGS donators? No, since they got all their snapshots and now they're getting their donations back. Invictus? No, since PTS currently has very little market value and so it's better to return the funds for the sake of PR than to let them gather dust.

Now, think back to the beginning of the AGS donation campaign. What were donators told? That they would get a snapshot of all Invictus projects. They were told that their donation addresses would be forever enshrined in the AGS list. So based on those 2 things, people donated PTS. Note that Invictus delivered completely on those two things. Now, without revoking either of those two privileges, Invictus announces today that AGS donators get a third benefit: they get their PTS back! This third benefit detracts nothing from the other two!

Another argument you make is that Invictus is just doing all this to accumulate funds. If that's the case, why are they still around? It's not a scam if the scammer does what he said he was going to do. You seem to think it's unfair somehow that Invictus gets to keep all the BTS that was snapshotted from the AGS PTS. That's an opinion you're allowed to have, but you express it as though they're doing it in secret. Nothing could be further from the truth! They've been very open about this from the start.

So those are a few of the reasons I liked BM's proposal to return the PTS. I've been active on this forum for a long time; I am used to forming opinions quickly. So please be more careful to discern the difference between blind acceptance and rapid, thought-out acceptance.

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Yap, I got mine expired positions auto covered.

I saw that. However, there are still some "expired" bitGOLD margin orders. So orders must not autocall unless they can do so at or above the feed price.

Thanks again. How can I borrow money at 1%? Do I get in line and sell bitusd short?

Yeah, something like that. In the bitshares client you can see a list of open short orders, and by default they're ranked by the % interest rate they're offering. When people purchase the shorts, the high-interest ones go first, so if all you offer is 1%, your order is probably unlikely to be matched.

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Quote from: biophil on November 12, 2014, 02:08:25 am

Quote from: toast on November 11, 2014, 10:39:54 pm

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Quote from: toast on November 11, 2014, 09:46:46 pm

Quote from: biophil on November 11, 2014, 09:23:48 pm

I take it this is only for the Nov 5 snapshot, and it doesn't include the AGS rescue funds that I3 is giving people who had non-genesis balance during BM's announcement.

This should have everything.

Mine does not reflect any amount for having claimed DNS during the BM's announcement. What cut off time did you use? I transferred my DNS minutes after the post [10/21/2014  12:24:11 CDT]
All this for correctness sake, as I have said I do not deserve that bonus anyway.

Snapshot was seconds before the post.

I transferred mine many minutes after the post, and got zilch according to this snapshot tool.

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Right, so since you hadn't claimed it yet you didn't get extra

No, it wasn't in the genesis block. I had moved it around a ton for voting, speculation, etc.

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You can use proof of burn to a null address as an "AGS" style way of getting your stake.

Nothing says that PTS cannot be "split" into two networks... 1 that is slowly dying like POW and the other growing DPOS...

Just have several burn addresses.... let PTS users pick their fate.

Yeah, but that requires waiting until the burn period is over to launch the new asset, which is much less elegant than the XCP burn was.

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So I recently bought a few bitusd. I got them at about 47 bitshares. How is the interest rate paid? Do I have to hold for a year?

Welcome, XsharesO. Interest is paid any time you execute a transaction with your bitUSD. If you send them to yourself, if you create an order to sell them, or if you close a margin order with them, you'll get paid whatever interest is currently due you.

It's important to note that interest does not accrue on bitUSD that is on orders! So if you have a standing order to sell bitUSD, that bitUSD stops accruing interest the minute you tie it up in an order.

Wait a few days, then go to tMy Accounts and then click on your account where you hold the bitUSD. If you scroll to the top and look over on the right, it will say "estimated yield." That's the amount of the asset that you'll be paid if you transact your whole balance right now.