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General Discussion / Re: DAS Tools
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:29:34 am »
I'm making a toolkit for the BTS and larger crypto ecosystem. I'm starting a thread because public expectations are a good commitment strategy.

C++ sucks balls for anything other than the core networking/blockchain code and the whole dev setup now scares away newcomes who give up after 30 minutes. Most of the stuff new devs would want to work on are not in the core BTS codebase anyway, they want to quickly and easily interact with the BTS ecosystem.
Ideally Dan will establish a byte-by-byte format for transactions so he can offload building the wallet (misnomer: "transaction maker" - the wallet itself is trivial) onto us. If not there are still a lot of "top-down" software that needs to be written.

This week I plan to deliver:
"das" top-level command routing
"das angel" Angelshare utilities, like a merged btc/pts wallet for holding your AGS and code for looking up snapshot allocations
"das keyring"  <- BASIC "wallet" functionality, like just a named list of ECDSA keys and CLI commands for the basic operations on keys

Today I plan to deliver:
* Hopefully most of this week's goal for das keyring.
* Nicely organized super-easy-to-get-started repository


Important stuff in the future:
* BTS X market maker bot
* BTS DNS auction CLI interface


edit: btw "DAS" is distributed autonomous service/system... More friendly and more general that DAC in my opinion.

excellent  +5%

Does the word "Service" in DAS imply server side code and API or is this still 100% client side?  I'd like to learn more.  Thanks

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The following is text from yBitcoin Magazine's profile on Daniel Larimer

Daniel Larimer.  A Passion for Freedom via Decentralization

Not all that deep and hidden in his entrepreneurial heart of hearts, Daniel Larimer is a philosopher and a dreamer, identities he readily attests to in discussing an approach to life, study and work that has placed him in the forefront of the Bitcoin world, where he is known within its inner circles as “Father of the DAC.” (He originated the idea of the “decentralized autonomous company.”)

As founder and CEO of BitShares, an utterly innovative “crypto-equity” platform that he founded in 2013 (see page 14), Larimer’s passion is bound not so much by building successful companies, though that is all well and good, but by having those companies do nothing less than help change the world.  He aims to do so under the guiding vision of a radically decentralized economy that reflects his own company’s mission to pursue free markets that ensure “life, liberty and property for all.”

Larimer is a Colorado native who spent his formative years in Florida and Virginia, the latter serving as his home base since graduating in computer science from Virginia Tech in 2003.  Having learned computer programming from his father when still in elementary school, he turned an almost in-born techy/entrepreneurial bent into a business venture fresh out of college, when he joined a handful of buddies to launch a virtual reality company.

“We did well and made money every year, but we closed it down after five years and went on to other things,” he says.  Some of those involved him writing code for unmanned ground and air vehicles, a field he later left when its military implications left him a touch uneasy.

All the while, he was pursuing nothing less than what he unabashedly calls “the pursuit of truth about everything— I’ve always wanted to know what’s going on in the world and how things work.”  Encounters with the Ron Paul presidential campaigns stimulated an intellectual odyssey into the depths of libertarianism, a passion that informs his unique fusion of economics, innovation, politics and the common good.

I believe whole-heartedly in voluntary associations and moving beyond a contract society where I’m going to get you to do X, Y or Z or I’ll get the government to point a gun at you,” he says. “Contracts always come down to government force.  All that just drives costs and misery up.  I want to do business on a handshake and make reputation primary, because if your reputation is damaged it’s the worst thing that can happen, and your business suffers.  It’s never about coercion, but about the Golden Rule with a slight twist: ‘Don’t do unto others as you don’t want them to do unto you.’”

He points out that Bitcoin operates on basically the same premise, where, he says, “No one delivers anything by fiat.”

True to the Internet age, he discovered Bitcoin when pondering the intellectual knots attendant to decentralization of the financial sector.  So he Googled “decentral- ized currency,” and up popped the name “Satoshi Nakamoto,” the pseudonym for the developer of Bitcoin, whom he soon began regularly communicating with before developing his own twist on Nakamoto’s blockchain technology in the form of BitShares.

“I was trying to figure out how to create a decentralized bank,” he says, “so I had an idea and put out a bounty on the Internet, for which I’d pay $1,000 to anyone who could convince me not to put my life savings into it.  No one really could, but I paid it anyway, because there had been a lot of good questions raised.  Then a few days later, I solved why my idea wouldn’t work!  I was really sad, but then on June 2, 2013—I remember the day—it came to me. I discovered the key that led to one of the BitShares businesses we’re building called BitSharesX—a decentralized exchange that combines the benefits of Bitcoin with the price stability of the dollar.  That has continued to lead to more exciting uses of our technology.

"Will I get where I want all this to go in my lifetime?  I don’t know, but this is the first step.”

excellent +5%

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I expressed interest, in case they really do turn up with something. Still smells like a scam with the fee involved.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=498193.msg5487893#msg5487893

agreed

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Yeah i'm all in favor of Brian doing 95% of of all interviews, soundbytes etc.   I'd like to see Daniel's time devoted to the most important  +5%

Brian, great interview man.  Really pleased to hear the "what bitcoin does for money, Bitshares does for business" analogy.   Really like "ultimate app store for entrepeneurs" these are all fantastic and *much* improved from the last round addressing people "so, you want to make a bet on the price of gold" when pretty much none of them want to make a bet on the price of gold lol.

Agreed, it's evident Daniel is multi talented, but he's most valuable in the tower "brewing DAC"  +5%

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Keyhotee / Re: Post your Alpha Keyhotee Public Key and Be known!
« on: March 04, 2014, 12:12:32 am »
At least I´m in too
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Would love to receive some msgs.
lg Tom

Tom, sent you a test as requested..

Enrique

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Makes sense, but I suspect people working on bounties are already stakeholders-not-speculators

I suspect you're right, most here are already stakeholders. It's newcomers that this would likely apply to. I just like the idea of rewarding investment vs speculation.  +5%

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It occurred to me that ideally bounties should be paid whenever possible in matching AGS vs PTS.

When bounties are awarded the grant should be paid via a matching BTC to the corresponding BTC address used to purchase the AGS associated with the bounty.

Why? well it is assumed that PTS is to an extent speculative and tradable. While AGS is for vested long term stakeholders. To optimize the use of bounties AGS awards would insure the recipient is a stakeholder not a speculator. I agree this rule will have exceptions, but PTS and BTC awards should not be the rule.

The more AGS stakeholders we have the greater the number of vested parties and fewer speculators.

Does this make sense or am I all wet? maybe too draconian?

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General Discussion / Re: On Marketing and Priorities
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:53:16 pm »
The motto is decentralize everything, the community needs to step up and lead these initiatives - Propose actionable plans that Invictus can say "Yes, that's a great idea go do that" and when it's done award the funds they authorized, or ideally come up with a less centralized storage system so we don't wind up with our own little Empty Gox should the legal situation in Virginia get hairy.  Governments freeze funds first and ask questions later, and jail is real.

 +5% wise, young Jedi

Should we find a group to hold a fraction of the angel funds in a multi-sig address? Perhaps me, adam, fuznuts, clains, dan, with 3 required to release funds?

 +5%

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General Discussion / Re: Bitcointalk Battleplan
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:50:50 pm »
Bitcointalk Battleplan

Invictus and Bitshares have not yet established a solid presence in the crypto community.
One of the major obstacles to gaining a central place in the crypto community is being a solid presence on Bitcointalk.org.
This thread concerns ideas around, worries about, and the format of promotional content creation.
A lot of what is discussed here should also generalize to reddit, facebook, twitter, etc.


Who can contribute, and when?

When I thought about launching an attack on Bitcointalk.org it quickly dawned on me that we need to space this out between different people posting in threads at different times. If one person at a particular time is everywhere on Bitcointalk.org it will of course look bad, or just ridiculous.

My own approach has been to plan out a set of threads that I can make across a space of weeks. But we also need people to comment on these threads lest they drown, and we need other people to make threads as it will quickly begin to look suspicious if I'm the only one posting threads.

List the amount of posts you can make per week, and what your expertise is or PM me to get involved!

Ideas for content and formats?

It also quickly dawned on me that my creativity for content creation is extremely limited. I also need you the community to come up with ideas for threads we can post. We can and should dissociate the ideas for content, the creation of content and the posting of content.

My own ideas so far have been the following:

In general,
-- Bump old threads continuously, (Keyhotee thread, Bitshares thread, Bytemaster threads, + the ones we create)
-- Always aim to use a diverse range of formats (pictures, memes, movies, slogans, links, etc.),
-- Aim for a diverse range of themes and target different sections of the forum (off-topic, political, altcoin, etc.)
-- Themes do not always need to be directly related to Bitshares or Invictus; many indirect ways.
-- Always act as support and courage people to send PM's and ask questions.
-- Promote threads via other social media (cross-post, mention in chats/trollboxes, twitter, etc.)

Concrete Threads,
-- [ANN][PTS] February 28th Bitshares X Snapshot!
--  Re: Introducing Keyhotee - Next Generation Identity, DNS, Messaging, and Wallet
-- Topic: Bitshares, Ethereum and Mastercoin Three-way Panel Discussion
-- Skandinavian, (I'm Norwegian), Er desentraliserte børser og banker neste steg for Crypto?

Threads I'm planning to do:
-- Price speculation threads, .. on Bitshares X or PTS, etc.
-- Politics and Society Threads: The volunarist-meme video posted here, with some voluntarist ideas.
-- Thread  February newsletter as well as March, etc.
-- Thread concerning the Invictus incubator model, as well as the upcoming DAC-centric conference
-- Threads concerning articles; The Three Laws of Robotics, Is Bitcoin Overpaying for False Security? and DACs That Spawn DACs.
-- Thread concerning the updated Bitshares X whitepaper
-- Q&A threads

List your ideas for content and formats!

What should we worry about?

That there will be a lot of critical questions we can't answer.
That a hard push might backfire as paid advertising.
That Bitshares clones dominate and establish themselves as more fair.

Some solutions,
-- Effective anti-propaganda
-- Dominating presence
-- Kindness/honorable code
-- Economic incentive

List what we should worry about and how to resolve the worry below!

What am I missing?

Post suggestions and I'll update this thread!

I have some vague idea that we should link the various social media efforts into this, but I am unsure how.

 +5%  Content like this should be scrubbed and promoted to an I3 site page.  The forum has many nuggets of topical valuable content, site editors/contributors should capitalize on such content. I assume this could be handled through github collaboration.

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General Discussion / Re: On Marketing and Priorities
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:40:57 pm »
The motto is decentralize everything, the community needs to step up and lead these initiatives - Propose actionable plans that Invictus can say "Yes, that's a great idea go do that" and when it's done award the funds they authorized, or ideally come up with a less centralized storage system so we don't wind up with our own little Empty Gox should the legal situation in Virginia get hairy.  Governments freeze funds first and ask questions later, and jail is real.

 +5% wise, young Jedi

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General Discussion / Re: On Marketing and Priorities
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:35:26 pm »
3I - Let me know how I can help.

 +5% right on... Lets fish or cut bait.
This is not about speculation and trading, stakeholders will step up and lead or follow.  8)

I3 is our defacto partner not benefactor, barring dumb luck or visions of black swan events success is NOT an entitlement. Good things happen while we work as others sleep.

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A much needed initiative, thanks..
We'd appreciate you presenting at one of our upcoming Meetups via Skype. This very req came up at our Tuesday meeting.

I look forward to working with you ;)

ditto +5%

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everyone dumped their PTS  ::) hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

This drop was expected, time to double down, future DAC success will resurrect PTS.

No worries.

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General Discussion / Re: [Proposal] Bounty for Easy to launch DAC code
« on: March 03, 2014, 10:01:50 pm »
In the ideal world we could leverage an existing RAD tool, working at the design level would insulate application developers from advanced lower level properties and code.
This would lend many benefits:

shorter time to market
more reliable code
simpler to troubleshoot
easier to deploy updates
greater adoption with fewer barriers to entry
lower cost to market
increased profits for DAC stakeholders
additional revenue streams for tool vendors
code once deploy many potential with cross platform tools

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