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中文 (Chinese) / 作为对标银行存款利率，低风险的理财产品bitCNY的收益多少，你才能推荐亲戚朋友买入bitCny
« on: September 26, 2019, 06:25:08 am »
你推荐亲戚朋友来bts买cny，你希望有多少收益就可以了？
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 放弃精准锚定？
« on: September 26, 2019, 04:52:37 am »支持这个，宣传定位上放弃稳定货币，改为低风险投资品好的，那就2%-3%之间。再广泛征求一下大家的意见
通过一定的利润空间吸引更多的资金进入内盘，资金的竞争也会缩小cny波动，市场成熟稳定之后反而会得到一个近似稳定币的产品。
mssr不需要回到那么大的空间，2%的波动已经有足够吸引力了，一年来回做5单就10个点利润，建议不要高于3%
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Stakeholder Proposals / Proxy:bit.professor
« on: September 26, 2019, 02:46:38 am »
Am applying as Proxy to the community .
Will use that thread to update about my votings and also to listen to other opinions or suggestions.
Proxy : bit.professor
Will use that thread to update about my votings and also to listen to other opinions or suggestions.
Proxy : bit.professor
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General Discussion / Abandon 100% peg?
« on: September 26, 2019, 02:37:22 am »
Our series of reforms are aimed at accurately peg bitcny , like,reducing the mssr from 1.1 to 1.01...
From the short-selling attacks on CEX, we can see that we have no resistance. It's time to rethink the location of bitcny.
1. Evidence of CEX short selling attacks:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29641.0
2. Bitcny is repositioned as a risk-averse tool and a low-risk investment product. We need to get back the right to settle the accounts from cex. bitcny is our product, and the initiative should be in us.（I have no idea yet.） Bitcny is allowed to have premiums and discounts, which attract investors with low risk preferences in order to obtain higher returns than bank interest rates. This crowd is huge.
3. MSsr is raised to 1.05-1.1, which allows BTS to fluctuate in price and attract investors with moderate risk preference to come in . Low buy high sell, quantification become profitable and make exchanges active.
4. Give investors with high risk preference a bottom line and attract them to come in and take on high risk while gaining high returns.
Summary: in bts,bitcny is no longer the strategic center of gravity , but a financial derivative with stable returns. the strategic center of gravity has returned to the exchanges and attracting investors has become the only important thing. At present, there are 5000 active users in the internal disk. If we can't keep and increase active users, it means that we have no future.
From the short-selling attacks on CEX, we can see that we have no resistance. It's time to rethink the location of bitcny.
1. Evidence of CEX short selling attacks:
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29641.0
2. Bitcny is repositioned as a risk-averse tool and a low-risk investment product. We need to get back the right to settle the accounts from cex. bitcny is our product, and the initiative should be in us.（I have no idea yet.） Bitcny is allowed to have premiums and discounts, which attract investors with low risk preferences in order to obtain higher returns than bank interest rates. This crowd is huge.
3. MSsr is raised to 1.05-1.1, which allows BTS to fluctuate in price and attract investors with moderate risk preference to come in . Low buy high sell, quantification become profitable and make exchanges active.
4. Give investors with high risk preference a bottom line and attract them to come in and take on high risk while gaining high returns.
Summary: in bts,bitcny is no longer the strategic center of gravity , but a financial derivative with stable returns. the strategic center of gravity has returned to the exchanges and attracting investors has become the only important thing. At present, there are 5000 active users in the internal disk. If we can't keep and increase active users, it means that we have no future.
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中文 (Chinese) / 放弃精准锚定？
« on: September 26, 2019, 02:02:46 am »我们一系列改革都是为了精准锚定bitcny，目标抵押率，mssr从1.1降到1.01......
从cex的卖空攻击事件我们看到我们毫无抵抗力。是时候重新思考bitcny的定位了。
1、关于cex卖空攻击的证据：
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29641.0
2、bitcny重新定位为币圈的避险工具和低风险的投资品。我们要拿回让渡给cex的结算权，bitcny是我们的产品，主动权应该在我们(详细方案再讨论)。允许bitcny出现溢价和折价，这样吸引低风险偏好的投资者进来，以获取高于银行利率的收益。这个人群是巨大的。
3、mssr调高至1.05~1.1，这样允许bts有价格波动，吸引风险偏好适中的投资者进来，进行波段操作。波段、量化、搬砖变得有利可图，让交易所活跃起来。
4、给风险偏好高的投资者一条底线，吸引他们进来贴线抵押，获得高收益的同时承担高风险。
总结：bitcny不再是bts的战略重心，变成一个可以有稳定收益的金融衍生品。bts的战略重心向交易所回归，吸引投资者变成唯一重要的事情。目前内盘活跃用户5000，如果我们不能保住并且增加活跃用户，意味着我们没有未来。
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General Discussion / Re: Shorting Attack Protection?
« on: September 26, 2019, 01:00:54 am »I agree we should protect if there are enough evidence proof CEX manipulate the price.
but it's too danger to totally ignore the price from CEX if the price continue drop.
I think give a higher price related to current price is much better than a bottom price, for example 10% higher,
this could stop mostly shorter attack, we can reduce this gap when the influence from mainipulate reduce.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29641.0
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General Discussion / Shorting Attack from cex?
« on: September 26, 2019, 12:48:34 am »
1、zb.com, volume of yesterday was 440M in one market BTS:QC.
2、5-min chart:
3、Volume of the other market BTS:USDT was 48M.
Zb's accounts in BitShares (in total around 260M):
account balance
bitkkchubei002 162.3M
zbbts001 100M
zbsend001 1M
Note: zb has lending feature thus its volume might be higher than normal exchanges, but it's suspicious that so much are available for borrowing and dumping in a short period.
2、5-min chart:
3、Volume of the other market BTS:USDT was 48M.
Zb's accounts in BitShares (in total around 260M):
account balance
bitkkchubei002 162.3M
zbbts001 100M
zbsend001 1M
Note: zb has lending feature thus its volume might be higher than normal exchanges, but it's suspicious that so much are available for borrowing and dumping in a short period.
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: zb交易所假币砸盘，呼吁见证人停止按交易所喂价
« on: September 25, 2019, 07:07:31 pm »
我支持这个方案，bts再也承受不起这个代价了。
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General Discussion / Re: Shorting Attack Protection?
« on: September 25, 2019, 06:30:52 pm »
Tonight I asked Clockwork how to make BTS great？ More investors, he said.
Good answer！！！
Why do investors invest in bts? Faith? No, investors want to make money, not be eaten.
”Ah, this is the free market. Let them die naturally.“
First , this is not a question of a free economy. Secondly, BTS is an experiment, and there are still many things to be improved.
At present, we only have 5000 active users, a large number of users have left. This is not their fault, but our fault, it is the fault of bts.
As clockwork said, more investors are needed, and we should focus on how to make investors more willing to invest in bts.
1、No longer pursue 100% peg of bitCNY，Allow CNY to fluctuate in order to attract a large number of investors and arbitrageurs with low risk preferences and to activate the market。
2、Gradually increase repurchase efforts to attract investors。
3、In addition, we should stimulate market activity like casinos to attract investors with high risk preference.(thinking)
Good answer！！！
Why do investors invest in bts? Faith? No, investors want to make money, not be eaten.
”Ah, this is the free market. Let them die naturally.“
First , this is not a question of a free economy. Secondly, BTS is an experiment, and there are still many things to be improved.
At present, we only have 5000 active users, a large number of users have left. This is not their fault, but our fault, it is the fault of bts.
As clockwork said, more investors are needed, and we should focus on how to make investors more willing to invest in bts.
1、No longer pursue 100% peg of bitCNY，Allow CNY to fluctuate in order to attract a large number of investors and arbitrageurs with low risk preferences and to activate the market。
2、Gradually increase repurchase efforts to attract investors。
3、In addition, we should stimulate market activity like casinos to attract investors with high risk preference.(thinking)
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General Discussion / Re: Shorting Attack Protection?
« on: September 25, 2019, 06:01:58 pm »
1、yes,we have paid too much to maintain the peg of bitCNY and bitUSD.
2、It's time to think about giving up the peg of bitCNY and focus on dex.
2、It's time to think about giving up the peg of bitCNY and focus on dex.
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 建议cny区MCR改150
« on: September 25, 2019, 05:45:40 pm »建议MCR改150，现在市场极度缺少cny，能救一部分人是一部分吧！为什么不在cn-vote说？
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP59:Reduce MCR of bitCNY to 1.5
« on: September 19, 2019, 12:36:02 am »- reduce mcr to 1.5, with one obvious benefit: bitCny is easier to produce.However, the current supply of bitCny has little impact.
- The risk is very small.(like bitUsd)
- i support it
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Stakeholder Proposals / Re: [Poll] BSIP59:Reduce MCR of bitCNY to 1.5
« on: September 18, 2019, 03:07:21 am »Reason？As low as possible & As high as necessary.MCR = 1.5 is in the current system the best balance
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中文 (Chinese) / Re: 回顾2014-2016，看看现在
« on: September 17, 2019, 09:59:35 am »:'(命运多舛
社区依然热议抵押机制缺陷，讨论改进思路。
巨蟹再次开始支持refund，大部分 worker 不再有注资。
BM 已经不在，不会发生突然的底层大改。
其他开发者？
价格？
