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Technical Support / Re: BTS withdrawal didnt show up
« on: April 08, 2016, 04:06:46 pm »
Being Processed since 1 days 13 hours  is this the longest BTS transaction in history ?

price now fallen 180 sats.

frustrated is not the word here

Yeah, it's not good! I was waiting over 2 days for my withdrawal. Once Poloniex have actually done the transaction properly on the blockchain, you''ll have your BTS in a few seconds!

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Technical Support / Re: BTS withdrawal didnt show up
« on: April 08, 2016, 07:45:27 am »
It seems to be OK now. I got an answer to my ticket - they had to do wallet maintenance. I think they hadn't updated most likely. Withdrawals are going through alright now so far as I can tell. :D

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Technical Support / Re: BTS withdrawal didnt show up
« on: April 07, 2016, 02:41:43 pm »
I'm somewhere between a little and a lot worried now.

My support ticket is unanswered after nearly a day.
I've been waiting for my BTS for nearly 2 days.

 :-\ >:( :'(

I'll wait a bit longer before I get a lot worried...

The advantages of a decentralized, transparent exchange where the asset owner remains the owner are HUGE!
Does anyone know of such a thing?! :P

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Technical Support / Re: BTS withdrawal didnt show up
« on: April 06, 2016, 07:23:57 pm »
I don't use Poloniex much, but I'm having a problem with a withdrawal too at the moment. I've been waiting 24 hours and it's not yet on the BitShares blockchain.

My transaction ID on Poloniex is the same sort of format as yours at the moment and the status of the withdrawal is 'COMPLETE'.

I have in the past done a couple of withdrawals from Poloniex (which were successful), and the transaction ID is a different format  (x.xx.xxxxx where the x's are numeric).

I guess there are internal delays at Poloniex for some reason...

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Freebie / Re: Withdrawal Fee
« on: April 06, 2016, 07:14:57 pm »
I'm struggling to find a place to post my question - I settled on here!

Yesterday I attempted to deposit 45 BTS to my Sharebits account so that I can make a withdrawal. I used my BitShares Light client, transferred 45 BTS to 'sharebits' and included the memo code from the Sharebits website (where it says 'Use this memo for ALL deposits otherwise your funds may be lost!'). My Sharebits account has not yet been funded...

How can I successfully deposit BTS to Sharebits so that I can make a withdrawal? Did I do something wrong?

(edit: Is it the case that I will need to create and use an Open Ledger account to fund my Sharebits account, rather than using the light wallet?)

Is there a better place to ask this question?

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Perhaps something like a decentralized alternative to threaded discussion forums, e.g. Reddit self posts (though limited to STEEMIT_MAX_COMMENT_DEPTH == 6 nested comments, which I guess is a reasonable number),
except with the distinguishing feature of economic rewards for good comments ("What do you mean internet karma points don't have to be worthless?" ;)).
Though perhaps that could backfire as well: redditors take karma too seriously as it is even though it currently provide no economic value whatsoever. But it would be fun to see how economic incentives modify social behavior online.


From Ned Scott's Linked in

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Steemit is a social media platform where everyone gets paid for creating and curating content.

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"ZERO-FEE Transactions" is good.

Also consider "FEE-FREE Transactions".

( I prefer zero-fee though! I think)

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Well done Rune! I wish you every success. It seem s like you've been working really hard.

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Follow My Vote / FMV mentioned on Safe Network Forum (Maidsafe)
« on: February 22, 2016, 11:30:27 pm »
Yo! Yo! Yo! Check it out! It's here!

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Continuing the discussion from BitLaw - Polycentric Law in Crypto-Space (part 2)1:

It deserves it's own thread.

I just met the founder of https://followmyvote.com/15

These guys are legitimate. It is really beautiful piece of technology. They want to release it in July-ish to get ready for the 2016 election cycle. The reason being that they want to expose the voting fraud. One could use their software, and gov software and compare of the two. The non-anarchist will soon realize how corrupted the system is. That is their goal.

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General Discussion / Re: bitSHARES - As True Shares and Not a Currency!
« on: February 22, 2016, 09:19:28 pm »
I've been wondering if there would be any  benefit from changing BTS such that it can be put in either of two states. Switching between the two states could incur a fee (possibly much cheaper or free in one direction).
The two states:
  • BTS is non-transferable and can receive many benefits which may exist (like voting power, building up coin-days for an account to send bitassets, being a sharedrop target, receiving dividends etc.)
  • BTS is transferable, but doesn't receive the host of possible benefits (more of which could exist in the future)

Although this compromise would miss the main benefit of tonyk's idea, I think it has it's advantages. It would reward people who wish to hold BTS as though it were a share and possibly incentivize people to do this. The voting power would lie more with people who hodl.

Sorry - I don't have time to delve into this at the moment, so for now let me just ask, "Does this idea have enough merit to consider any of it's aspects seriously?".

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General Discussion / Bitcoin's Proof of Waste?
« on: February 18, 2016, 11:38:31 pm »
I like this tweet by Tim Swanson:



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General Discussion / Re: bitSHARES - As True Shares and Not a Currency!
« on: February 18, 2016, 10:43:02 pm »
Riverhead says it's possible for exchanges to issue an BTS IOU...

It's possible, but not practical. Each exchange would have to buy a massive stake in BTS just to do this; to fund their IOUs which they have to convert from user's bitcoin deposits. This is a huge undertaking for them and a big risk; IMO, they just won't do it.

It'd be rather peculiar if centralized exchanges ended up with, rather than BTS IOU, a token pegged to the value of BTS called... I don't know... bitBTS!
bitBTS - transferable, but without any of the benefits of BTS (voting power, enabling free transactions, sharedrop target etc.)...

When a user wants to withdraw this to get the equivalent to their BTS account it wouldnt be possible because there can't be transfers according to the OP. They need to go to the orderbook first and as such there is no guarantee you can get them.

There would be no transfers of BTS, but there could be transfers of a BitShares smartcoin such as bitBTS.

and how would users claim them for the original? they wouldn't. Would they peg it to the original bts? Otherwise since they would have more volume they would be the ones setting the price, which wouldn't even make sense. Might as well call it any other name.

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and how would users claim them for the original? they wouldn't.
Correct. I wasn't meaning for them to be able to.
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Would they peg it to the original bts?
bitBTS would be a BitShares asset pegged to (and backed by) tonyk's non-transferable BTS.

I was only imagining a peculiar scenario whereby traders on centralized exchanges could trade bitBTS - based solely on the 'monetary' value of BTS. The non-transferable BTS itself would carry it's 'monetary' value plus the benefits associated with holding BTS such as voting power, enabling free transactions and sharedrops and whatever else we wish to bestow upon it. Actually, thinking about it, the peg between bitBTS and BTS may not be 1:1 because each has pros and cons compared with the other...

Sorry if I wasn't (or am not) being clear.

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General Discussion / Re: bitSHARES - As True Shares and Not a Currency!
« on: February 18, 2016, 09:57:02 pm »
Riverhead says it's possible for exchanges to issue an BTS IOU...

It's possible, but not practical. Each exchange would have to buy a massive stake in BTS just to do this; to fund their IOUs which they have to convert from user's bitcoin deposits. This is a huge undertaking for them and a big risk; IMO, they just won't do it.

It'd be rather peculiar if centralized exchanges ended up with, rather than BTS IOU, a token pegged to the value of BTS called... I don't know... bitBTS!
bitBTS - transferable, but without any of the benefits of BTS (voting power, enabling free transactions, sharedrop target etc.)...

When a user wants to withdraw this to get the equivalent to their BTS account it wouldnt be possible because there can't be transfers according to the OP. They need to go to the orderbook first and as such there is no guarantee you can get them.

There would be no transfers of BTS, but there could be transfers of a BitShares smartcoin such as bitBTS.

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General Discussion / Re: bitSHARES - As True Shares and Not a Currency!
« on: February 18, 2016, 09:51:53 pm »
Riverhead says it's possible for exchanges to issue an BTS IOU...

It's possible, but not practical. Each exchange would have to buy a massive stake in BTS just to do this; to fund their IOUs which they have to convert from user's bitcoin deposits. This is a huge undertaking for them and a big risk; IMO, they just won't do it.

It'd be rather peculiar if centralized exchanges ended up with, rather than BTS IOU, a token pegged to the value of BTS called... I don't know... bitBTS!
bitBTS - transferable, but without any of the benefits of BTS (voting power, enabling free transactions, sharedrop target etc.)...

edit: I suppose it'd be 'bitBTS IOU' on a centralized exchange!

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General Discussion / Re: bitSHARES - As True Shares and Not a Currency!
« on: February 17, 2016, 02:29:23 pm »
The answer also depends on what you consider the main benefits of the new approach. If you find that what it does for the bitAssets is the main benefit, why first wait on inferior version of bitAsset to take off before implementing the superior?

I think the point is that it's too risky at the moment to make such a change to Bitshares.  And a new chain would be DOA (that means dead on arrival, tony).  So right now we should concentrate on getting BitAssets moving in the right direction, taking liquidity measures that can be taken now, giving the entire system a chance to become more robust with a lively internal market for BTS, and a much more active DEX in general.  Then we'll be in a better position to create your perfect peg and take BitAssets to the next level.  You have to learn to crawl before you can learn to walk!

What you say does makes sense, but I'm still not sure I agree. I'm wrestling to settle on a balanced viewpoint for this...

Looking at it from another angle you could say, "Why learn to crawl if you want to fly?".

Part of me sees it this way:
  • BitShares is still in it's infancy, learning the ways of the world. We can try new things, learn from experience and react by making changes in order to optimize the system for long term success. It is much easier to make changes to a foundation before it is built on. Once maturity is reached, changing the foundation can become infeasible. Compared with what it aims to become, BitShares is still tiny and new. Perhaps now is the only time we could get away with making a change like this.

I'd love to compare two alternative universes in the future - one with the change implemented and one without...

The other thing I'm trying to get my head around is whether or not we would be "allowed" to make the change. That is to say, does it break the agreement of what people have 'signed up for'?

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