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KeyID / Re: Agent86 wins again
« on: September 21, 2014, 12:24:24 am »
I agree with many of the previous posts.
For many, the current ICANN system will seem favorable to this proposal. Unless you worry about your domain being shut down, ICANN enables you to bank on the fact that you can keep your domain. That stability it important.
The suggestion in this topic has it's merits, but also has one major downfall. If someone decides to obtain a domain, they'll usually want the security of knowing they can use it without worrying about someone coming along and taking it by brute monetary force. The current proposal seems only to have significant value to a niche market. Why would many people choose this option over the existing option? Only if they have very specific needs.

Can't we use this model, but without the possibility of domains being forced out of people's hands by spitefulness, rich bullies or naughty competitors? I know squatting is a problem, but this doesn't seem like a good solution.



Is there any value hidden in the following half-baked ideas?

  • If someone wants a domain which they believe is being squatted or underused they can challenge the domain. The owner of the domain must somehow overcome the challenge.
  • In order to keep a domain the owner could add value to the DAC somehow, as well as leasing their domain. This could be almost like a proof of work, but one which is useful rather than arbitrary. Can someone think of a way to implement something like this? Is there some kind of manual work which could be done to improve quality, review sites, report problems etc.?
  • Maybe this kind of proof of work can be used in order to stop people from bidding you out of your domain. That way you could have a choice - prove that you're not squatting by manual POW, or if you don't want to, the system could revert to the original suggestion by Agent86
  • Maybe the POW could involve the development of a reputation/review system for domains or users. Or a filtering system whereby sites are categorized for efficiency in searches, or avoiding certain content material etc.

I admit I have little knowledge, but can anyone build upon any of these ideas? I don't know whether or not anything I've suggested is feasible.

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General Discussion / Re: Incentivize taking BTSX off the exchanges
« on: September 18, 2014, 08:08:14 pm »
I'm not sure we could unilaterally "take it off" the exchanges, assuming we wanted to.

I suspect we would need some type of "multi sig sanctioning mechanism" built into the DAC  to white/black list were it's officially traded or not.  ???  It would actually be a nice governance safety feature to weed out rogue exchanges (or all exchanges).

It could, under certain circumstances, be undesirable for some exchanges to trade BTSX. However, my first thought is that we should never implement such things as whitelists and blacklists within the protocol, even if doing so becomes highly tempting. It would "open up a can of worms", setting a precedent which could kill the DAC by undermining a lot of what it stands for. Fungibility must be maintained.

This kind of relates to NXT's decision relating to the huge theft of NXT from bter exchange. The NXT community discussed whether or not to roll back the blockchain in order to "undo" the theft. They decided (very sensibly in my view) not to alter the blockchain. If they'd rolled back the blockchain, how could people have any confidence in NXT going forward? There could be constant gray areas, disputes and problems occurring which would turn into a nightmare. People must have confidence in the underlying protocol without the possibility of people coming along and moving their "money" from under their feet.

The existence of blacklists and whitelists introduces too much possibility for the kind of power leading to corruption that we see in the FIAT world. I think we should level the playing field rather than recreate the old one.

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General Discussion / Re: Incentivize taking BTSX off the exchanges
« on: September 18, 2014, 03:20:53 pm »
One potential problem with the centralized exchanges is theft. I'm thinking about the large amount of NXT which was stolen (because of improper practices on the part of the exchange) from bter.

If something like this were to happen with any BitShares stuff it would cause significant harm.

I don't know whether or not people from BitShares or the community have worked with the exchanges in order to ensure, as far as possible, that problems don't occur. Is anybody aware to what extend this sort of collaboration has occurred?

I believe this to be worth the effort and time because it could avert a major blow.

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I like this :)

 +5%



Hey did you noticed this here?

This is excellent and should be splashed.

Note: Swiss to be capitalized. And while I understand the common perception of privacy in Swiss banking, Swiss banks are no longer private in the sense most believe them to be.

Anyone can give this in a psd format?

Can whomever has the "master file" correct the typo in the bottom left? It says "interes", but should say "interest".
(cass doesn't have the file)

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Great, finallu something which please my eyes :) +5%
+5% thanks cass and thanks MeTHoDx for the texts and the initiative!

Maybe we should say "exchange and trading platform" in the first bullet point because those (exchange and trading) are two separate functions (different people find those two for different reasons useful) and bitsharesx can be used for both.

Fair point delulo, but it does say "Trade without any counter party risk" immediately afterwards, so there is mention of both exchange and trade already.

By the way, I would use "counterparty" as one word rather then "counter party". Not sure if one is more correct.

Also cass, you have a typo with "plattform" rather than "platform".

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Hey did you noticed this here?

Hey, cas. I noticed on the side where 'the bank wins', the last point says "interes" instead of "interest".

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General Discussion / Re: 'Credits' Presale date announced - September 20th
« on: September 07, 2014, 09:18:08 pm »
http://getcredits.io/blog/credits-presale-logo-contest-announcement/
http://getcredits.io/

Apparently it's "the world's first Proof of Consensus cryptocurrency with riskless pre-sale".

Not sure if I should say this in case it diverts productivity away from BitShares, but there are "two $750 bounties (paid out in Bitcoin) as prizes in a design contest to choose the Credits logo".

White Paper? Developers? You posted this here why?

I posted this just for information. I don't know a lot about this project, but it seems to stand out somewhat. People here may be curious about "Proof of Consensus", or may simply want to stay informed about competitors. Different consensus mechanisms could have points of interest.
I doubt they will be a serious competitor, but I think knowledge is useful.

Bitcointalk announcement is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=614917.0

I'm not too familiar with netiquette actually, so if you think it'd be better for this topic to not be here I'm happy for it to be removed.

I'm just saying that a quick perusal of their website gave me no confidence that just because they claim that the pre-sale is "riskless" that it actually is so. Since we don't know anything about the people behind this, how can we accept their claim for "riskless presale". How do we know that they will honor refunds? They say nothing about funds being held in escrow for the duration of the refund period.

Also, with no White Paper, how can we evaluate their "Proof of Consensus" technology?

Good questions onceuponatime.

I'm not advocating 'Credits' because I've not researched them. My thinking was that others here may have looked into it at some point and might have opinions which they wish to discuss here.

I came across 'Credits' a while ago, forgot about it, then got an email about the presale. I announced it so that others can be aware. Just a 'heads up' really.

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General Discussion / Re: 'Credits' Presale date announced - September 20th
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:46:19 pm »
http://getcredits.io/blog/credits-presale-logo-contest-announcement/
http://getcredits.io/

Apparently it's "the world's first Proof of Consensus cryptocurrency with riskless pre-sale".

Not sure if I should say this in case it diverts productivity away from BitShares, but there are "two $750 bounties (paid out in Bitcoin) as prizes in a design contest to choose the Credits logo".

White Paper? Developers? You posted this here why?

I posted this just for information. I don't know a lot about this project, but it seems to stand out somewhat. People here may be curious about "Proof of Consensus", or may simply want to stay informed about competitors. Different consensus mechanisms could have points of interest.
I doubt they will be a serious competitor, but I think knowledge is useful.

Bitcointalk announcement is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=614917.0

I'm not too familiar with netiquette actually, so if you think it'd be better for this topic to not be here I'm happy for it to be removed.

edit: Should I delete it?

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General Discussion / On-ramp for the masses to get BitUSD
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:34:56 pm »
Edit: Don't bother reading this! It's a waste of time. How can I delete the topic? Do I need to contact a moderator?


Looking at details for cob's music company based on BitShares music (PeerTracks?) I found this:

"When they fund their account with 20 USD of fiat, they get 20 BitUSD. This is what they spend while shopping for music."

Could the general public access BitUSD using the following method in order to avoid exchanges?:
  • Deposit USD to an online company such as PeerTracks
  • Decide not to purchase anything and ask for a "credit note" in the form of BitUSD

I'm not intending for this to be done with PeerTracks, as it would probably not benefit them - it's just to illustrate an example.
Not sure where this idea stands legally. I'm assuming that there are problems with outright selling BitUSD to the public and wonder if this could be a workaround.

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Any latest information?
« on: September 07, 2014, 08:04:48 pm »
cob - Now that the name and website have been revealed, should we have a topic for feedback/help/ideas etc?

(I've spotted a typo. Might be too early for this sort of stuff, but I'm paranoid about it persisting. Therefore I'm mentioning it! On presale page, "PeerTracks in marketed towards" should say "is".)
edit: Also "The can also raise funds" should say "they".
"a name will suffices" should say "suffice"

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General Discussion / Re: How to show our appreciation to Bytemaster
« on: September 07, 2014, 07:31:56 pm »
Son of a bitch! Fists with your toes.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoFwttFEYLQ

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General Discussion / 'Credits' Presale date announced - September 20th
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:55:59 pm »
http://getcredits.io/blog/credits-presale-logo-contest-announcement/
http://getcredits.io/

Apparently it's "the world's first Proof of Consensus cryptocurrency with riskless pre-sale".

Not sure if I should say this in case it diverts productivity away from BitShares, but there are "two $750 bounties (paid out in Bitcoin) as prizes in a design contest to choose the Credits logo".

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Website name. Brainstorming
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:41:36 pm »
cob - I'm feeling positive about this. I can't wait to see what happens next!

By the way, I like the name.
Have you pondered over buying the same .com but without the pluralization of your current one for $2,369? Not sure what your budget is, but it may be worth it.
It could capture people typing in the wrong url and redirect them to the correct address.
If this takes off and people end up using the name as a verb they will undoubtedly drop the 's' in everyday speech.

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Any latest information?
« on: September 07, 2014, 06:24:01 pm »
whats this?
http://peertracks.com/


xeroc, I'm curious. How did you find this? Did you simply manage to guess the name? If you used other methods I'd love to know what you did.
 :o

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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Website name. Brainstorming
« on: September 07, 2014, 05:41:45 pm »

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