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General Discussion / Re: Smart Coins & Forced Settlement
« on: November 30, 2015, 08:18:16 pm »
Cleared the bases with that post.
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General Discussion / Re: How can Bitshares developers lower "psychic costs" to encourage adoption?
« on: November 30, 2015, 06:12:51 am »
I personally oppose having an online psychic in my BitShares wallet. 
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Technical Support / Re: poll for disabling force settlement for BitCNY.
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:17:25 am »
Committee members: this time please do not rush off to hold an urgent meeting and make a change that gets widely condemned. Be patient, conduct some due diligence, and have some respect for the long term vision. At that point, do what you will. Personally, I have no strong opinion on this issue, but I want to see you guys make a reasoned decision, not a hasty one.
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General Discussion / Re: Can't trade on Openledger. Newbie!
« on: November 27, 2015, 07:30:29 pm »
Hopefully, you'll get some feedback from someone who is able to troubleshoot. This has happened to me once, and I was able to just cancel the order and then then next ones worked fine. But the client can sometimes be a little buggy. I also try different browsers on occasion. The other thing that might work for you is to download the light client to your computer and try that instead.
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General Discussion / Re: UI Progress
« on: November 27, 2015, 06:49:44 pm »Troll box? A chat interface is different than a troll box, if what I've seen elsewhere is a troll box.What you and I think does not matter, though I'm right there with you. Those boxes remind me of a neighborhood post that all the dogs have to go pee on. But if someone actually will spend more time on the platform and trade because they are addicted to the endless noise of a chatterbox, then we probably need one. It seems to me that a straight up chat/messaging function would work much better for customer service and serous discussion.
I hate the damned things, they just provide a lot of noise and nonsense to distract what I'm there for. If people more or less stayed on point like the chat window in mumble I could see it possibly being useful. In my experience it's 50 zillion convos between separate groups of people and hard to track a single group / convo.
If you know what the old school telephone party line was, a troll box is like that but with many different conversations occurring in real time simultaneously. It would be like a mumble session where fuzzy is talking with BM on one topic, I am talking with Stan on a different topic, DataSecurityNode is talking with kencode on yet another, all at the same time in real time. A real audio mess. That's how I feel a troll box is in text.
I'm OK with adding one so long as it isn't visible by default. It would be a terrible I/F for support. Private chat on the other hand would be perfect.
@donkeypong are you talking about the starred markets? Make sure you have the latest version because I think it's pretty simple at this point.Correct. It's a little better every time I try it.
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General Discussion / Re: Fee Backed Assets (FBA)
« on: November 27, 2015, 05:08:25 am »
Very cool.
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Openledger / Re: Basic questions on OpenLedger
« on: November 26, 2015, 04:45:00 pm »
Welcome to you folks! I hope your questions on OpenLedger have been answered. Some of the exchange markets are still building (still gaining liquidity), but we are off to a great start.
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Random Discussion / Re: BS stands for Bullshit
« on: November 26, 2015, 07:16:16 am »I still am unsure I understand but I can already tell this community is mature. Thanks for all the positivity among my negativity - it says a lot about your community. I am still a die hard Ripple fan boybut I will check out bitshares. Quick question - what is bitshares audience and do they have a specific niche?
Our audience is the whole world, not just banks. Our niche is providing a decentralized exchange (which can be used for trading, investing, saving, or making transfers), rather than a network owned by a few Silicon Valley heavyweights. Other than that, we have some things in common with Ripple.
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General Discussion / Re: Gauging interest: Dollar UIA Club
« on: November 25, 2015, 03:35:15 am »
Sounds like an improvement.
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General Discussion / Re: New Stealth Transfer Worker ($1000)
« on: November 25, 2015, 01:26:37 am »
Onceuponatime may soon have nearly $45,000 worth of UIA crapcoin tips in his wallet!
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DAC PLAY / Re: Major Updates?
« on: November 24, 2015, 10:32:33 pm »
Don't hold your breath with these guys. By the time there's an update, PLAY might be a completely different business (again).
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General Discussion / Re: Cryptonomex to License Graphene and Graphene-UI under BSD License
« on: November 24, 2015, 07:29:12 am »
That's pretty much what I was saying.. the power we have now though is like a 10 lumen LED... sure it's power.. but when we are up to 300k lumen floods.. then its noticeable... and powerful.
I would caution the expect and demanding though.. that could very quickly come across the wrong way. The whole idea of the social consensus was just that.. social.. demanding it is not very social.. neither is expecting. We can very fairly offer it.. and if the offering is accepted willingly and with joy.. then great. I am say though that they will look at it just like I said already and see that they are the losers in that deal and will not be so excited about it. Those that don't simply don't get our unique brand of support. I just hope what follows that doesn't lead to others not even wanting to engage us.
Yes, we can't be assholes about pushing it, like I've been known to be. But the expectation for social consensus needs to be there or else we are just rolling over dead. If we have people in our community who can do de-bugging, language translation, graphic design, crowd-funding, marketing, etc. (some examples), then maybe the sharedrop does not seem like a one-way handout to a group of entitled assholes who spend too much time posting on forums. Instead, it is a two-way street where we have a group of skilled and motivated foot soldiers ready to help your product succeed. You share with us, we share with you.
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Muse/SoundDAC / Re: Order of execution
« on: November 24, 2015, 07:20:36 am »So... MUSE soon will have Emma Watson coin as well as Taylor Swift coin? (imaginary examples)With an asset creation fee of 500,000,000 MUSE, they'll have to wait a bit longer!
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General Discussion / Re: Cryptonomex to License Graphene and Graphene-UI under BSD License
« on: November 24, 2015, 05:58:17 am »The community has to revive its value proposition in order for this to work. If the value of the community doesn't equal what is expected out of some kind of share, then it doesn't make sense. When the 'community' numbers in the millions.. then you have something to bargain with.. otherwise you are asking a business to give up something for essentially nothing.. in their estimation anyways. They can just go ahead without sharedrop and the consequences of the community not supporting wouldn't even register.
Ye of little faith. Expect and demand it, that's what we should do. They can be on our good side or our bad side. We have that power now and it will only grow with more users and a larger community.
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General Discussion / Re: Cryptonomex to License Graphene and Graphene-UI under BSD License
« on: November 24, 2015, 05:15:19 am »Actually I am kind of a fan of a step less than that [It very well be my conservative thinking; or inability to see things as liberal as most here]
But free to everything BTS related should have been enough. I really do not want other chains (MUSE, PLAY, player X) getting the stuff that BTS holders paid for, for free.
If you want it - make yourself a DAPP on BTS, or pay to CNX or whoever developed that particular feature. The idea it to generally prevent even the thought of milk-cowing BTS, passing anybody's mind.
Anyway, definitely better than the current state, in my view.
Yes, well done.. definitely better.. BUT, while BTS is still trying to figure out it's business model, maybe we should be a little more conservative. I'm concerned about fragmentation of the network effect, and to some extent leeching, as tonyk mentioned.
Just revive the Social Consensus. Why am I the only poster who brings that up anymore? Look back over the last six months on this forum and I'll bet the last six posts on the Social Consensus have all been mine. Between licensing and stealing something for free lies the community's expectation that anyone using this technology will sharedrop a small percentage. If they don't, we blackball them rather than inviting them to Beyond Bitcoin. If they do honor the Social Consensus, then they have the full weight of this community behind their product. I think it's a great notion and I believe we should expect that of everyone using this technology (the development of which this community has supported technologically, financially, and morally).
