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General Discussion / Re: Announcing Angel Shares & BitShares Allocation
« on: December 26, 2013, 05:41:45 am »
So you raised over 100BTC worth of PTS from something that is basically free for you to do, pretty successful initiative!

+1

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General Discussion / Re: Announcing Angel Shares & BitShares Allocation
« on: December 26, 2013, 05:39:15 am »
So each Keyhotee founder should get approximately 2 angelshares per PTS donated.

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General Discussion / Re: Announcing Angel Shares & BitShares Allocation
« on: December 26, 2013, 05:17:45 am »

Merry Christmas Keyhotee Founders!!
The first 10,000 AngelShares are set-aside proportionally for Keyhotee Founders.  Invictus Innovations shareholders are not eligible.  Donations to Keyhotee after Dec 24, 2013 at Midnight GMT don't count.
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Jan 1st, 2014 shall include all transactions sent to the Angel addresses in 2013.

Please can you elaborate on this.. Have the Angelshares for Keyhotee founders already been allocated based on Keyhotee ID contributions before dec 24th?

Nice gesture for early adopters who donated :)

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Marketplace / Re: $500 Bounty - Keyhotee Splash Screen & Icon
« on: December 19, 2013, 09:58:52 am »

First sketch for clean splashscreen version with a dandelion standing for decentralization (Breaking away from the controlled center)

More to come!

Love the concept behind Godcreation's dandelion puff ball logo.
Something special here that really gets across that idea of freedom... carrying of essential data to far away place if you really want to read into it.
Also the 2 tone colour scheme separating key hotee works really well too.

Going with one theme always works best, i wouldnt mix the sword and the puff ball as the message gets lost.

Also its not necessary to explain the phonetically spelt 'Keyhotee' further. As Stan said the word can be a meaningless word like google thats just becomes identifiable with the brand.

Heres a few other examples of puff-balls/spores which you could experiment with
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=dandelion%20puff%20balls&source=images&cd=&docid=34fPrp4v1ohZjM&tbnid=dzwNutTX-oxV3M:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmassagectr.net%2Fservices.html&ei=48KyUp7qJsjekgX94IHoBQ&psig=AFQjCNGexYistp6vElfNFX4p5VaDTIxRgg&ust=1387532945337758




Excellent work.. think you guys are really onto something with this one.

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Great Stuff Brian!

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BitShares PTS / Re: What is ProtoShares?
« on: December 19, 2013, 09:34:52 am »
Guys excuse my technical incompetence but i want to be sure I have things properly set up with protoshares.
So I have purchased some protoshares and transferred some for my invictus ID and some to the client on my mac.
I have then closed the client (as i'm not a miner) and saved the .dat file (backed up in numerous places).

Is this enough for me to ensure I receive BTS providing I don't transfer out of the client?
Lastly what are public and private keys?

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BitShares PTS / Re: [Megabounty Thread] Help Us Write the Protoshares Copy
« on: December 19, 2013, 09:20:22 am »
I would like to replace Corporation with Company

Company: a commercial business.
Corporation: a company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.


other options:
DAC:  Decentralised Autonomous Community
DAC:  Distributed Autonomous Community
DAC: Decentralised Autonomous Corporation

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BitShares PTS / Re: ★Giveaway I★ Claim your free PTS - rule inside
« on: December 18, 2013, 06:19:39 am »
Thanks in advance.
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BitShares PTS / Re: [Megabounty Thread] Help Us Write the Protoshares Copy
« on: December 18, 2013, 04:08:06 am »

Interesting thread.
Being a "newbie" in these circles, I offer a layman's perspective. Reading through the posts, clearly a brainstorming session. There are many good copyright proposals and other points brought up here. Even the misses because they help clarify issues. Then there's the underlying theme/discussion concerning broader marketing/branding issues e.g. Invictus/Protoshares/Bitshares in communicating your mission to people like myself loud and clear. One never gets a second chance to make a first impression.

In relation to this point I agree with Que23, Bytemaster. Recommend branding as Bitshares ASAP with Protoshares as a preliminary opportunity to get involved. You have a great chance to tie it in with the Keyhotee roll out etc. Get us motivated to participate in growing the Bitshare project.

Your USP
Foremost, your unique selling point then seems to be DAC. Unfortunately, just an acronym bereft of clear meaning or more importantly, value. Spelled out it gets worse. Even includes "corporation". Yikes. A bit of a misnomer even if not by definition. You already have a concise "What is DAC" on the Protoshares.net web, so for main page copyright I would simply link to info and limit its use to formal IDs e.g. "A decentralized person to person service platform based on Distributed Autonomous Corporation (DAC) technology". Even better, coin a new term for it. After all you are the leaders in the industry.



Excellent point.. I think the value of what DACs are is getting lost in the term.. Imagine saying Distributed Autonomous Corporation to someone over lunch.. the term would be completely lost on them.. it sounds too much like spin or marketing jargon.. you can be sure they wont be able to repeat it back to you a few minutes later..
Maybe brainstorming a new term for DACS would be a help.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [Megabounty Thread] Help Us Write the Protoshares Copy
« on: December 18, 2013, 03:58:44 am »
Guys, I'm wondering if all of the above is all too high brow and technical.
The reason I say this is because in not technically minded at all and I don't really understand it. I appreciate that most of the community at large are IT experts, that's why I'm supporting Protoshares but the key thing here is identifying who our market is.
My thinking is that the majority of technically minded ppl already identify with PTS as a worthy investment, however it's the 30-something young professional or recent retiree; who has a bit of disposable income available, has read about bitcoin and who would love to get involved ,if he just so knew how, and could wrap his head around it; that we need to be targeting.
Are we preaching to the converted?

Anyway enough preaching, how can this be done..
I think let's go back to basics..
Use me as a guinea pig.. I still can't wrap my head around it completely. Lets start with an example.. back when you first had a hotmail account.. explaining email to your gran..

What is email? Email is a revolutionary new way of staying in touch by computer.. like sending a letter without the need for a stamp.

OK moving on to Protoshares and using that model where you are explaining cryptos to that 30 something year old with money to burn over lunch.. "hey check out this link www.protoshares.com it will let you get involved."
Im going to work within Super3's framework and pose a few questions of my own..

Opening page..

Protoshares.. Crypt-equity!
You've heard of cryptocurrency..(what are cryptos link), know its the future... wish you were involved from the start and want to be involved in the next big thing?
Welcome to Protoshares, we see crytpocurrency as the future and need your backing to make it happen.
Get involved at the grass roots stage and reep the benefits.


What are Protoshares?
Protoshares are a means of investing in the future of cryptocurrency. Protoshares are mined just like bitcoin, this means they require computer power to be made.. computers breakdown complex algorithms cracking code to produce each unique piece of data, each Protoshare.


Our Unique selling point!
What makes us different than bitcoin?
Protoshares can then by bought, sold and invested without fees by miners and users alike.
But.. Protoshares are more than just another Bitcoin... Protoshares are an investment.

Aside from hassle free international money transfer, with faster transfer times and user anonymity Protoshares allow an investment opportunity.
In a young, volatile market a successor is needed to ensure stability.. every Protoshare you hold allows you to invest in something bigger.. the future of cryptocurrency, its workings, the hardware and software that surrounds it...we call it Crypt-equity.
Think of it like mining for gold and then investing that gold into something bigger.

How does it work? (i.e. what are DACS)

DACS: Tools for the crypto era

Here at Invictus (link 'about us') we aren't sitting happy having created our own cryptocurrency, rather we are hard at work in an active community creating tools for the cryptocurrency era.. we're talking e-wallets, trading platforms, unique trading ID's... (link to Keyhotee ID etc)

4 words/phrases
Secure, fee-free remittance
Equity
Grass-roots investment
Tools for the crypto era

In terms of the layman vs tech explanations a nice idea would be to use both.. beside each explanation have a Tech logo (the Tony Starks vs Joe Bloggs approach the Tech vs the layman) This link could be clicked on for the more technical explanations on each section.. Keeping it separate isnt a bad thing.. even the technically minded people dont mind a marketing spiel so long as it explains it adequately before they can get down to the nitty-gritty.


A final point is the concept of bitshares... I think the 1:1 allocation is a good idea.. i'm just wondering why is it necessary.. if branding and word of mouth is already established for Protoshares would it not be better to keep the name Protoshares but allow Protoshares to envolve into what Bitshares represent?

if what i say has value, by bounty or otherwise i appreciate the PTS ;) PY7zWXa1fx632te5jdqmkpuzuZ3zxdHveK





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Great work! Kudos for considering all community input. Great to have the dotcom domain.its currently not ranked on a google search of the word 'protoshares'. Is there a way to get it listed then start a forum link getting vevery community member to select the website from the search results to get it up the rankings?

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Bytemaster's PTS 2.0 pitch came as a surprise, dropping the price of PTS.. transiently... One positive thing it did allow was room for reevaluation, prompting fast-paced discussion with big input from a great number of active community members.
The passionate, contrasting viewpoints from newbies and respected community members alike highlighted Protoshare's strong community input.
Furthermore despite Bytemaster's lesson in humility his clear willingness to concede to the opinion of the community showed Invictus' clear commitment to decentralisation and to the better interests of the PTS community at large.

Today's short term dip in the curve has in my opinion done more for the progress of Protoshares than months of discussion could. It brings to the floor the main issue: the clear need for capital investment to fund future DAC development and product marketing.

Watch this space over the next couple of days for solutions which will launch PTS into the stratesphere.. BTC looks ready for a christmas slump.. its time to invest in cryptequity.
Anyway...crowdfunding is quicker with cryptocurrency..isnt it..

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General Discussion / Re: Should we be calling it BitShares?
« on: December 16, 2013, 12:47:20 pm »
The other issue being that both bitshares dor com and bitshare dot com are already taken. Bitshares dot com is available for 10K USD. I had originally talked with the domain name owner to try and purchase it a lot cheaper but 10K was the minumum he would accept. I did present this to the Invictus team...perhaps they are considering it.

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BitShares PTS / Re: [Feedback Needed] Protoshares.net Launched
« on: December 16, 2013, 12:34:19 pm »
Delighted to see progress being made and things being taken seriously in regard to design. That was what Invictus was really missing.
I really like the website, the one glaring exception being the logo.
The original logo was clean and iconic. The new logo is too complex puts Protoshares at risk of possible breach of copyright laws in regard to the similar gamecube logo.
The bottom line being that the new logo doesnt add anything positive and could infact bring negative intonations along with it.
Other than that overall look of the site is great, it seems to work well on iphone safari browser's too.

Please change back to the original logo, it wasnt broke..so no need to fix it.

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Keyhotee / Re: What's the point of keyhotee?
« on: December 13, 2013, 06:38:16 am »
Hi Stan,

Excited about Keyhotee, much better spelling it phonetically as you have done, the meaning still stays.
Do you think the new website and branding will be ready before the launch of Keyhotee on new years eve? (same question to bytemaster :)
That would be fantastic if it is!

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