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Also seeing this statement saying there might be up to 8% pa dilution of bts. Assuming this is incorrect, but can't find the authoritative statement about this

Bitshares now allows voters to elect paid delegates.  Paid delegates get Bitshares with each block that they sign, up to a max of 50 BTS (voters must elect them at that pay rate for this to happen).  This results in inflaiton of BTS.

This means that bitshares is now self funding.  It can pay for its continued development, for marketing, and to recruit more developers, once the original I3 funds are gone.  No matter what happens, bitshares can continue on and support itself.


The maximum possible inflation rate is 6.3% for next year.  (50 BTS a block, for every block for a year is 157,680,000 BTS a year.  157,680,000 / 2.5 billion is 6.3% inflation).


However, that is the MAXMIUM.   In order for that to occur, there must be 101 paid delegates all receiving max pay rate. 
Thats not going to happen.  What is actually going to happen is that voters are only actually going to vote for paid delegates for the dev team, marketing delegate, and a few others who are showing that they are adding value to bitshares.  So in reality, with maybe 20 or so paid delegates, inflation will be about 1-2% a year.



In the case that bitshares were to actually hire 101 paid delegates, and have 6.3% inflation, what would that mean?  It would mean we actually have 101 people working on coding and marketing of bitshares, that voters think are providing positive value.  For example, maybe we hire all the devs in the crypto space, because we can actually pay them!   IF that happened, and we had 6.3% dilution, it would probably be a good thing, because bitshares would grow a TON if that happened.


Once the market cap increases a lot, voters will not want to vote for full pay delegates any more, because it will be too much money.  One full pay delegate would actually be able ot hire a whole team of devs, or fund a big marketing campaign, if the bitshares share price went up significantly. 

At that point, we could expect dilution would be even less (or growth would be even greater!)



To summarize:

Max possible inflation is 6.3%
All of the inflation results in ACTUAL VALUE being created.  It goes to developers and marketers who GROW bitshares.
Inflation is less than in bitcoin.  Bitcoin uses "proof of waste", simply burning hundreds of millions of dollars a year to secure the network.

Bitshares uses REAL proof of work!  Work for bitshares, and you get paid!  This money results in real value being created, as opposed to bitcoin's mining which simply demonstrates that miners have wasted money.


This change is an extreme positive long term for bitshares, imo.  And yet it has resulted in a massive selloff, because people dont understand yet, and they see dilution as strictly a negative thing, not seeing the potential.   This is why now is an excellent time to be buying bitshares.
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Some sort of graph or flowchart showing where equity originated, how it flowed through the various dacs to reach the merged bitshares would be helpful. We're going to face a lot fud about the fairness of origin of equity, and a complex genesis muddies the waters, so a clear chart to point people to would be helpful.

Also seeing this statement saying there might be up to 8% pa dilution of bts. Assuming this is incorrect, but can't find the authoritative statement about this

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News letter has replaced this. 

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News letter has replaced this. 

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What is the purpose of this ?  If it is for a mass PR release we should dress it up a lot.  The merger is really cool and a world first.  We can get a lot of eyes on it if we choose.   But this format is not PR style.  If you want a Press Release I am happy to write one and get it out.

I think it is good enough for our purposes. Maybe your press release in addition would be great too?
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What is the purpose of this ?  If it is for a mass PR release we should dress it up a lot.  The merger is really cool and a world first.  We can get a lot of eyes on it if we choose.   But this format is not PR style.  If you want a Press Release I am happy to write one and get it out.
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BitShares X rebrands itself as BitShares; adopts greater scope

In a controversial move the founders of BitShares have decided to combine features formally divided among multiple competing systems including BitShares X, VOTE, DNS, and all other future features they can conceive under a single Decentralized Autonomous Company (DAC) that will go by BitShares.

BitShares X which was originally designed to be a single decentralized exchange trading in collateralized derivatives of major currencies will join forces with domain name auctioning and voting applications.   These currency derivatives known as BitAssets such as BitUSD and BitGLD have all of the properties of Bitcoin with the price stability of the underlying asset and are considered the killer app of the BitShares ecosystem.

Smart Contracts with turing complete scripting environment has been added to the BitShares roadmap to facilitate growth and prototyping of new features.  This feature combined with BitAssets should give Ethereum some serious competition in the smart contract market.

Until recently the BitShares ecosystem was known for promoting many competing block chains (DACs) each with their own development team.   Each DAC would have had its own variation on BitUSD and would have competed for the same users and market cap.   This setup was designed to promote decentralization and robustness, but in reality it meant that the development team was fractured and divided against itself.    Under the new arrangement the development teams behind BitShares DNS, VOTE, and X have combined forces to focus on a single unified product.

Similar to corporate mergers, the result of combining forces is the elimination of redundant marketing, development, testing, and support resources.   The developers have prepared a roadmap that would gradually introduce new features to BitShares.

To align incentives and bring the communities together BTSX has decided to give a two year vesting stake to people who had a stake in  BitShares PTS, DNS, and VOTE as well as recognize those who gave funds to support the BitShares ecosystem.  In total BTS will “air drop”  7% PTS, 7% AGS, 3% VOTE, and 3% DNS.  This air drop is not a buyout or merger but a no strings attached gift to these communities to encourage them to contribute to BTSX rather than their own competitors.    This air drop will be made based upon ownership as of midnight UTC.   Users should remove all PTS and DNS from exchanges prior the air drop deadline. 

The leads of VOTE and DNS have already decided to join the BitShares bandwagon.  PTS and AGS will continue in their role and 3rd parties such as BitShares Music, BitShares Play among a few others still intend to airdrop on these communities in recognition of their role in bootstrapping the BitShares ecosystem and the bitshares toolkit.

BitShares X owners will simply download an upgrade and the BTSX block chain will become the BitShares block chain and be known on exchanges as BTS.    Owners of PTS, VOTE, and DNS will be able to import their wallets to receiving their vesting stake. 

The core BitShares team behind the development of the BitShares toolkit has committed not to compete against itself, but instead to focus on making BTS the best system it can be and will have their undivided support.   This marks a major turning point in the development of BitShares and is potentially a game changer in the crypto-currency market space. 

FAQ:
BTSX will become BTS and will be the same blockchain, BTSX will remain liquid and trading will not be interrupted.

Exchanges are not expected to honor the November 5th snapshot because the positions will not be liquid, you should remove all DNS and PTS from exchanges prior to November 5th. 

The combined client with rebranding to BTS will be released toward the end of November

PTS, AGS, VOTE and DNS stakes will vest linearly over 2 years, meaning that each day users will get to claim some of their stake.

BTSX will not have a vesting period.

BitAssets such as BitUSD / BitGLD should be unaffected 

User names allocated in DNS will not be migrated to BTSX

PTS will continue to circulate and trade; however, without I3 planning any future snapshots its value will be based upon the speculative value of 3rd party DACs such as Music, Play, and others. 

PTS block intervals will probably grow significantly and mining may stop all together.  PTS is maintained by Testz and not I3. 

A new blockchain "DevShares" will be used for testing the upgrade of BTS and future hard forks as well as experimental features and economic experiments.   This blockchain will be a 40/40/20 snapshot AGS/PTS/X taken on November 5th.    DevShares will not be considered a "safe store of value" but non-the-less will have value for those wishing to test their smart contracts or BTS integration on a low-value chain.   Details on DevShares will be provided over the coming month.

PTS / AGS holders will effectively receive 20% stake in all PAST and FUTURE blockchain ideas built by the Invictus team through this air drop, plus a much larger cut in DevShares, Play, and Music among others.

There is too much to cover in a single press release, so I hope to have the press release focus on the high level "good" and then direct users to a wiki page with the FAQ details.   Please post any unanswered questions you have here. 


 


is this final yet? cause we plan to translate this article once it is finished.
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if exchanges are not expected to honor the November 5th snapshot,why Bter keep saying they will redeem BTS for their customers?
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if exchanges are not expected to honor the November 5th snapshot,why Bter keep saying they will redeem BTS for their customers?
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What market are we speaking to when we talk about Turing complete? Most people will scratch their heads. The purpose of communication is not to be complete in one's message, its getting the audience to understand the meaning of the message, to perceive and act on something.

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I figured it was some esoteric relation to a turing machine. Just another buzz word with little to add over just saying "we're adding a scripting lanuage" to the client. It that statement is incorrect, pls explain the difference between "turing complete" scripting and just scripting.

Python is Turing complete. Turing complete just means it's a complete language that you can do anything with. Some languages aren't complete languages so you're limited to what you can do with it.

Javascript is Turing complete. You can do more than just make web pages.
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Those you might name that don't are rather obscure and are not used for general programming tasks.

Erm. Yes. That's the point. With a non-turing-complete language you cannot perform general progamming tasks.
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Or security reasons. Bitcoin for example.

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I figured it was some esoteric relation to a turing machine. Just another buzz word with little to add over just saying "we're adding a scripting lanuage" to the client. It that statement is incorrect, pls explain the difference between "turing complete" scripting and just scripting.

Touring complete has more features. For example a scripting language without loops is not touring complete. By definition a script is said to be Turing complete if it can simulate any single-tape Turing machine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_completeness

This is a nuance distinction, as in my experience the majority of scripting languages implement loops. Those you might name that don't are rather obscure and are not used for general programming tasks.
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I think the paragraph about turing-complete scripting and ethereum should be removed. It's off topic for the rebranding.

Ethereum should be removed, but mentioning turing complete scripting is ok
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