质疑bts在国外的推广进度，marketing.methodx是否应该获得100%支付(question marketing progress)

[Musewhale]

希望以后的delegate 先为社区付出，先证明自己的能力和诚意，再申请
我不相信没有资金支持就无法证明自己，穷有穷的做法。

Translation :

I hope from now on the delegates contribute to the community first in order to prove their ability and commitment before applying for delegates .
I don't believe they could not prove them without funding . We can always think of something without too much money .

是啊是啊
妈的现在都是一堆根本不认识的人突然跑出来我要做这个我要做那个，其实都是看见有钱才开始编故事
真要是看好BTS，喜欢BTS，就不能为了理想为了自己的眼光赌一把？
我们以前没钱还不是到处吹牛皮？可怜以前很多人为了BTS吹了很多牛皮装了很多逼，结果到最后被BM反手一刀宰了，试问此生谁还敢出头带你装逼带你飞啊？
回头看，真正一直为社区付出的比特股之家搞了一个多月了居然还不是受托人
这不是讽刺是什么？
为什么总有人喜欢辩解呢？承认吧，BTS现在根本就是处于失败的分叉上......大合并、投票政策、100%受托人、两年冻结 = 四大败笔
我直接就是认为BM的受雇于区块链就是一个笑话，一个垃圾，一个拍脑袋的产出品

砸盘走人吧

已砸

准备明天开始改名：BTS黑熊，开始黑BTS了

[sudo]

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13710.msg178709#msg178709
maybe 100% delegate should burn some progress on to the wall of delegate id

很多受托人对此视而不见啊   因为没有考核压力

[abit]

希望以后的delegate 先为社区付出，先证明自己的能力和诚意，再申请
我不相信没有资金支持就无法证明自己，穷有穷的做法。

Translation :

I hope from now on the delegates contribute to the community first in order to prove their ability and commitment before applying for delegates .
I don't believe they could not prove them without funding . We can always think of something without too much money .

是啊是啊
妈的现在都是一堆根本不认识的人突然跑出来我要做这个我要做那个，其实都是看见有钱才开始编故事
真要是看好BTS，喜欢BTS，就不能为了理想为了自己的眼光赌一把？
我们以前没钱还不是到处吹牛皮？可怜以前很多人为了BTS吹了很多牛皮装了很多逼，结果到最后被BM反手一刀宰了，试问此生谁还敢出头带你装逼带你飞啊？
回头看，真正一直为社区付出的比特股之家搞了一个多月了居然还不是受托人
这不是讽刺是什么？
为什么总有人喜欢辩解呢？承认吧，BTS现在根本就是处于失败的分叉上......大合并、投票政策、100%受托人、两年冻结 = 四大败笔
我直接就是认为BM的受雇于区块链就是一个笑话，一个垃圾，一个拍脑袋的产出品

砸盘走人吧

[Musewhale]

希望以后的delegate 先为社区付出，先证明自己的能力和诚意，再申请
我不相信没有资金支持就无法证明自己，穷有穷的做法。

Translation :

I hope from now on the delegates contribute to the community first in order to prove their ability and commitment before applying for delegates .
I don't believe they could not prove them without funding . We can always think of something without too much money .

是啊是啊
妈的现在都是一堆根本不认识的人突然跑出来我要做这个我要做那个，其实都是看见有钱才开始编故事
真要是看好BTS，喜欢BTS，就不能为了理想为了自己的眼光赌一把？
我们以前没钱还不是到处吹牛皮？可怜以前很多人为了BTS吹了很多牛皮装了很多逼，结果到最后被BM反手一刀宰了，试问此生谁还敢出头带你装逼带你飞啊？
回头看，真正一直为社区付出的比特股之家搞了一个多月了居然还不是受托人
这不是讽刺是什么？
为什么总有人喜欢辩解呢？承认吧，BTS现在根本就是处于失败的分叉上......大合并、投票政策、100%受托人、两年冻结 = 四大败笔
我直接就是认为BM的受雇于区块链就是一个笑话，一个垃圾，一个拍脑袋的产出品

[yangsbo]

我也一直这么认为的，所以我一直提倡组织基金投入市场运作，把散户力量筹集到统一集体操作中，一盘散沙不会有多大前途，实在太浪费了。

市场推广这种事，只能集中力量办大事，像现在分散化的个人兼职推广能起到的效果很少，无非是股东出学费让人学经验

可即使是这样，价格也高了点。

宁可出给出十个100%受托人请专业的市场公关公司也不要花太多时间在业余新手身上。如果你希望比特股的未来是走向世界普罗大众，成为一个有影响力的去中心化公司的话，不要把比特股仅仅当作一个实验，一个游戏，每一个人的选择，投票决定了比特股走向何方。

注：我所有100多万选票一直投在非100%受托人身上，我觉得在非盈利的情况下还能参与到比特股安全基础生态中来，值得我投票给他们。

[suwoder]

市场推广这种事，只能集中力量办大事，像现在分散化的个人兼职推广能起到的效果很少，无非是股东出学费让人学经验

可即使是这样，价格也高了点。

宁可出给出十个100%受托人请专业的市场公关公司也不要花太多时间在业余新手身上。如果你希望比特股的未来是走向世界普罗大众，成为一个有影响力的去中心化公司的话，不要把比特股仅仅当作一个实验，一个游戏，每一个人的选择，投票决定了比特股走向何方。

注：我所有100多万选票一直投在非100%受托人身上，我觉得在非盈利的情况下还能参与到比特股安全基础生态中来，值得我投票给他们。

[Moon]

黑潮的当已经上过一次了，不给成绩就上受托人也太容易了。
大家渴望bts成功，但是也要严格要求受托人啊

[lzr1900]

撤票吧
做的广告屌用没有

[lzr1900]

渣渣一个

[ebit]

已经投票的撤票吧。最近未见工作成绩。

[Webber]

我竟无言以对

[ripplexiaoshan]

Brain目前有很多人质疑他，大家静观其变吧。Methox的这个100%委托人，既然已经上线了，就让他先干着看看吧，不着急质疑他，毕竟做什么事情都需要时间。如果过两三个月，还没有任何成绩，再质疑他不迟。

[sudo]

不如给100%席位 比特股之家 &同步做英文版

[fredafrica]

好像BRAIN退出了？自己搞了个公司？做网站也是BRAIN搞的我记得。翻了好几次版。不过做市场就是这样，风险太大。何况是个前瞻性的产品，推广不是那么简单的事情，还是得重新找重新尝试。

数字货币有一个杀手型的应用场景，就对我们中国海外同胞有用。他们拉美人，欧美人其实在国外都用不到的。

[zmzm577]

以太坊什么都没有，媒体爆光率都比BTS多。什么原因？

[ssjpts]

好像BRAIN退出了？自己搞了个公司？做网站也是BRAIN搞的我记得。翻了好几次版。不过做市场就是这样，风险太大。何况是个前瞻性的产品，推广不是那么简单的事情，还是得重新找重新尝试。

[zmzm577]

是的，他是令人失望 的

[lzr1900]

BRAIN，真心不是干这个的料，想想当年花钱印了一堆恶心的宣传T恤，也是醉了......
主要是他吹牛的东西，没有一个最终实现的，市场的信心期望都被他搞砸了。BM为什么一直护着他？

对，你一说这个我就想起来了.当时是去德州开会吧，弄了一摊位的破衣服，上面印着些别扭到无以复加的meme图案，生搬硬套印了个bitshares上去，也不知道那批衣服消化完没有？那都是钱啊！都是他妈的我们捐ags的钱啊…

[deer]

BRAIN，真心不是干这个的料，想想当年花钱印了一堆恶心的宣传T恤，也是醉了......
主要是他吹牛的东西，没有一个最终实现的，市场的信心期望都被他搞砸了。BM为什么一直护着他？

[robust8]

Brian，除了几张图片露了脸，真心不知道是做什么的？

[1&0]

都希望能在国内、国外市场有所进展！

[consultant]

@MktDirector
我只想说，Brian你到底在干啥？前期从AGSfund拿了这么多钱，一样成的事情没。
包括说的联系几个国外大型的交易所，成了几个？大家有目共睹。
只看到你在吹牛皮，许诺这许诺那，你倒是拿点成果来啊！
就会怪钱包还没搞好，拿这个理由来拖延？就算是钱包没搞好，你们就不可以做些前期的造势吗，我们这些人真的是一点都看不到？光靠bm那几个人说你们一直在干活有屌用，市场推广看的是成果，成果！
而且你丫的也不常上论坛，也不和社区的人交流，实在无语了。

Translation :
I just want to say , what the hell are you doing , Brian ? You took many money from the AGS fund at the early stages , do you have any result yet ?
Including those big exchanges in the western world , how many are there ? People can see .
I can just see you talk , promise this and that , can't you just give some result ?
You constantly blame the wallet not being 1.0 , you use this excuse to stonewall ? Even if the wallet have not done yet , can't you just do some early promotion ? We saw nothing . Marketing need result , not just endorsement from Bytemaster  .
You don't even go to the forum often and do not communicate with the community much . I don't know what else to say .

 

I feel upset when I realized we wasted 5 months in your promise.

[时光旅行机]

同意

[lzr1900]

@MktDirector
我只想说，Brian你到底在干啥？前期从AGSfund拿了这么多钱，一样成的事情没。
包括说的联系几个国外大型的交易所，成了几个？大家有目共睹。
只看到你在吹牛皮，许诺这许诺那，你倒是拿点成果来啊！
就会怪钱包还没搞好，拿这个理由来拖延？就算是钱包没搞好，你们就不可以做些前期的造势吗，我们这些人真的是一点都看不到？光靠bm那几个人说你们一直在干活有屌用，市场推广看的是成果，成果！
而且你丫的也不常上论坛，也不和社区的人交流，实在无语了。

Translation :
I just want to say , what the hell are you doing , Brian ? You took many money from the AGS fund at the early stages , do you have any result yet ?
Including those big exchanges in the western world , how many are there ? People can see .
I can just see you talk , promise this and that , can't you just give some result ?
You constantly blame the wallet not being 1.0 , you use this excuse to stonewall ? Even if the wallet have not done yet , can't you just do some early promotion ? We saw nothing . Marketing need result , not just endorsement from Bytemaster  .
You don't even go to the forum often and do not communicate with the community much . I don't know what else to say .

[fredafrica]

希望以后的delegate 先为社区付出，先证明自己的能力和诚意，再申请
我不相信没有资金支持就无法证明自己，穷有穷的做法。

是的，穷有穷的做法，我现在就在跟非洲某国的以前的客户谈合作，他们在当地做承兑，我们社区提供技术支持和其他服务。Alt兄觉得如何？算不算是贡献？

Translation :

Yes , you can do things without too much money . I'm currently working with a former client from some countries in Africa . They do the exchange for the locals , our community provide tech support and other services . What do you think , Alt ? It that contribution ?

[taa]

美国和中国的市场推广不该设有100%代表，因为这2个市场都有ags持有者捐赠的btc推广基金

[alt]

希望以后的delegate 先为社区付出，先证明自己的能力和诚意，再申请
我不相信没有资金支持就无法证明自己，穷有穷的做法。

Translation :

I hope from now on the delegates contribute to the community first in order to prove their ability and commitment before applying for delegates .
I don't believe they could not prove them without funding . We can always think of something without too much money .

[btswildpig]

Agreed.  It is a grass roots marketing campaign.  To my knowledge, Method-X is using all the delegate funds for advertising, but I am not 100% positive as to where the proof is. 

What I can definitely say, though, is that this marketing effort seems to be doing many things that do not seem to have been priorities for the official marketing team.  I hope this offers some clarification.

When I graduated from college , my first job was on tele-marketing .

I was collecting only 100USD month as basic salary (regular salary for a desk job back then should be 600USD a month ) , I make hundreds of phone calls,send hundreds of e-mail a day , but my bonus is base on the ones signed deal with my firm . I didn't get credit for being making too much effort . And those make less phone call than me , if they landed on a big client and signed deal , they get better bonus than me too , even if they just make several phone call a day . That's the basic rule of marketing , result , result ,result ...... The process means nothing .

Of course , if Brian can't produce result in the end , I think people will know what to do .

[fredafrica]

Agreed.  It is a grass roots marketing campaign.  To my knowledge, Method-X is using all the delegate funds for advertising, but I am not 100% positive as to where the proof is. 

What I can definitely say, though, is that this marketing effort seems to be doing many things that do not seem to have been priorities for the official marketing team.  I hope this offers some clarification.

I have been in africa for many years. I hope I could promote the market campaign in Africa as 100% delegate.

[fuzzy]

Agreed.  It is a grass roots marketing campaign.  To my knowledge, Method-X is using all the delegate funds for advertising, but I am not 100% positive as to where the proof is. 

What I can definitely say, though, is that this marketing effort seems to be doing many things that do not seem to have been priorities for the official marketing team.  I hope this offers some clarification.

[gyhy]

在国外推广不好，是因为有实力的人，现在没有bts。
marketing.methodx我认为只是个草根，但是多少有些用吧

Translation :

marketing.methodx is performing grass root promotion , I think it works more or less .

[swks347]

bts在国外的推广一直不好，也有人说因为钱包问题推广还没开始。
目前bts已经上了国外的p网和b网，目前bts在p网和b网的日均成交额均为100美元左右。
这两个网站确实不算什么大平台，但是bts在上述两个网站连成交额前10的币种都挤不进去也是事实。
marketing.methodx应该是做了很多推广工作，但是推广效果并不理想。
在中文社区一个100%受托人都没有的情况下，marketing.methodx做为一个并没有成绩的推广团队，拿着100%支付是否恰当？

Translation :

marketing in the western countries is not good enough .
I see marketing.methodx did a lot of promotion work , but it seems to me it's not good enough .
The Chinese community don't even have one single 100% delegate , as a promotion team that does not produce actual result yet , it is appropriate for marketing.methodx to take 100% pay rate ?