Technical Delegates Real Time Chat

[wackou]

Delegates should have monitoring tools to self-diagnose network and node issues. I agree getting pinged by a fellow delegate is a nice thing if the monitoring tools fail, but it doesn't seem to be adequate for production-level financial systems IMHO.

I have started to develop such tools, you can find them here: https://github.com/wackou/bts_tools
and my delegate proposal to help me fund my time to further develop the tools: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=11857.0

[pollux]

Delegates should have monitoring tools to self-diagnose network and node issues. I agree getting pinged by a fellow delegate is a nice thing if the monitoring tools fail, but it doesn't seem to be adequate for production-level financial systems IMHO.

[Riverhead]

The issue with IRC and the Forum is it's not a very good notification system unless setup as such.

If I'm hanging out watching TV and the network gets into trouble I want some way to be notified by other delegates. Or the other way around.

This works with email, skype, slack, and the like. With IRC and the Forum I need to be logged in and looking at the screen. In the latter scenario I typically have bitsharesblocks.com open anyway so there wouldn't be a need to notify me. While the forum can be setup to send notifications to email one would need to setup a filter looking for a keyword. Otherwise your email would be going off every two seconds.

[theoretical]

for ICQ (not serious, this is a joke)

[Pheonike]

I think Slack is good.

[fuzzy]

I honestly think slack would be best for what you are looking for. 

[emski]

This is the skype chat group:
skype:?chat&blob=s7FK3ZkYII8DujtoAK6x7aTaeUTLgBMEWpeFAD0aRgPq6LKo2cJcynSH_xoV9V9xRd2pY_xjdv_rh88

It was useful today.

[pollux]

We have about 5 folks in the #bitshares-delegates IRC channel. I recommend that all delegates who would like to be included in ad-hoc discussions join.

[gamey]

I dont share your opinion. Forum software is not mobile-friendly. It is full of non-essential stuff.
I would use another means of communication if I had the choice.

You can easily ignore the non-essential stuff.  Any delegate should have the capability to do that.  You go to the thread discussing the issue and ignore the rest of the forum.

Tapatalk works ok for mobile.  People who are only mobile to begin with aren't going to be actively troubleshooting.  So I don't understand.. but thats ok.  I've pushed forum solutions in the past and it had limited success so what do I know.

Although with forum you'll get non-delegates etc who might have valuable input.  shrug.  who knows. 

It seems like if you were trying to achieve  greatest participation and consensus you would have put forums as an option to see how widespread others see forum use as an issue.

Myself, I use about 4 IM systems and whether they are running depends on a need to communicate after last reboot.

[emski]

@gamey The initial intent of this is real time chat.

Ahh I got this thread confused with another?  My bad.

I will stick by my point though.  You need email for initial alert, then use forums.  Typing 1 line messages and not having to hit the refresh button are not features that are > ubiquity of a basic forum.  You type your new info in and hit save.  When someone wants to read more data, they click refresh.

It is barely any less real time than an IM, except it requires people to hit refresh. 

I mean, if you want a private group then instant messaging seems useful.  If you want it to aid in troubleshooting I don't see how IM systems help much.

I dont share your opinion. Forum software is not mobile-friendly. It is full of non-essential stuff.
I would use another means of communication if I had the choice.

[gamey]

@gamey The initial intent of this is real time chat.

Ahh I got this thread confused with another?  My bad.

I will stick by my point though.  You need email for initial alert, then use forums.  Typing 1 line messages and not having to hit the refresh button are not features that are > ubiquity of a basic forum.  You type your new info in and hit save.  When someone wants to read more data, they click refresh.

It is barely any less real time than an IM, except it requires people to hit refresh. 

I mean, if you want a private group then instant messaging seems useful.  If you want it to aid in troubleshooting I don't see how IM systems help much.

[emski]

@gamey The initial intent of this is real time chat.

[gamey]

About the mail as an option:
This forum is better than a mailing list.
What I suggested is a real-time communication.
More like a permanent channel where all delegates will hang out and whenever an important issue arises it will be quickly communicated.

I don't get why you don't just have email as #1 and people use whatever notification  service they wish.  I would suggest sticking with email  as part of any solution.  The email -> SMS gateways are free and make it near realtime.  Some people will be far more responsive to text messages than any of the other things listed.

What you are primarily wanting is an alert system, not a 2-way communication system.

The forum then becomes the 2-way communication system.  You guys are over-engineering this IMO.  Things like skye should be secondary/optional.

[emski]

I see 7 responses in favor of skype.
I'd ask people willing to create such group to state it (via skype PM message to me or PM me their skype ID).
Even though I might have added someone as skype contact I'll not add that person to the group unless he/she explicitly agrees.

[fran2k]

I think IRC @ freenode will be the best. Its the classic.