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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2015, 06:58:05 pm »
you are mad ,my king ,if you do so it`s time for me and every one of my friends to leave . do you not offer people freedom as you said, you offer "freedom"signed by bytemaster.

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2015, 06:59:52 pm »
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2015, 07:06:21 pm »
As per Rune.. keeping the controversy outside the client might be best. Pointers on how to in the wiki and have the forum host detail of slates, with perhaps a sticky slate detail of the core devs by way of strong indicator.

I think there is some advantage in making the core devs more apparent.. perhaps biographies, even if fictional can help their getting votes. Are the ~business cases put somewhere easy to navigate?.. Perhaps could add those to the wiki.


There's a rather good exhibition on at the London V&A about political movements and identity Disobedient Objects, which had me wonder that part of the way community and identity is encouraged is by tokens that acknowledge roles. Perhaps the forum could acknowledge people's roles in some way, so devs are less anonymous among the crowd.

the core devs need more publicity.Some names are not well known. You should add more on the homepage with a vote button, fix the vote problem - i can vote and i voted and i hope you secured the support of the big chinese whales in advance.

No need to to delete this thread, but why not end the headline with a questionmark ??????????

Maybe we can create something like Discussion-Ideas or something

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2015, 07:49:04 pm »
Or a "slate list" after open the wallet for the first time

Dialog :  Which build in voting slate you like to use ?
1\I don't want to choose any of these 
2\core developers
3\Xeroc's
4\xxxxxxxx's
5\yyyyyy's

I'd just go with a yes/no dialog in the next wallet version on first launch.

"Would you like default votes set to support the developer team?"

Or something to that effect.  Doing it silently could be bad PR.

I support a dialog on initial load, giving the user the ability to see who are in the slate, and a link to a thread describing the roles of each dev.

I think eventually the client needs a 'Delegate Campaigns' tab which shows delegate bids right in the client, possibly also with 'Delegate Slate Campaigns'. We could have a semi-annoying reminder every once in a while, or the delegate campaigns tab glowing a different color until they vote.

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2015, 07:53:57 pm »
just keep in mind how difficult it is to find AND KEEP core developers.
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2015, 07:55:51 pm »
I vote no. No pun intended. :D

It's a bad idea as what if the shareholders don't like one of the core devs? They have a right to vote them out.
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2015, 07:59:24 pm »
It's "opt out" vs "opt in" and it's widely debated issue in many industries.  I am for it - it backs our devs and strengthens Bts


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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2015, 08:00:18 pm »
I'd just go with a yes/no dialog in the next wallet version on first launch.

"Would you like default votes set to support the developer team?"

Or something to that effect.  Doing it silently could be bad PR.

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2015, 08:08:04 pm »
Default should be a clean no vote.

I don't mind a dialog box upon install, a one time option, asking to add core devs individually to my wallet vote, but they should definitely be off by default.

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2015, 08:08:27 pm »
Cat's already out of the bag.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=913075.0

Thanks newmine. I have to ask, if you hate BitShares so much...why the hell do you spend so much time here?

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2015, 08:11:14 pm »
Slates need to be made more obvious.

If bytemaster has a slate that reflects the core team he would prefer to see supported, then I would expect votes for that would follow.
Equally if each of the core dev team has a slate.. perhaps defined by priority such as dev or marketing or generic or network stability quality delegates, then those would draw support naturally too.

Those within two degrees of bytemaster would then be a good set that we might expect would define the overall votes.. only in exceptional political circumstances would a vote majority be against what those people chose.

Expecting anyone to know enough about 101+ delegates to choose them wisely, seems odd.. so, some effort needs to be put in to making it simple, if voting and DPOS are to run longterm.
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2015, 08:16:06 pm »
Cat's already out of the bag.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=913075.0

Thanks newmine. I have to ask, if you hate BitShares so much...why the hell do you spend so much time here?

On the upside, communication is good.. and there's equally a chance that people from that thread will discover BitShares and like that it is trying to improve by talking alsorts of ideas over.
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2015, 08:20:37 pm »
just keep in mind how difficult it is to find AND KEEP core developers.
just keep in mind how difficult it is to find confidence AND KEEP believing in DPOS for the market, keep in mind how easy shareholders walk away and never come back again.
It's the holder to decide instead of employees, right? When we discussed what a DAC means, and Why is Bitshares better than Bitcoin, we said so.
Sorry to say that but we don't need a king, and we don't want to play the game of throne either. If somebody can decide who's on that list, what we need dpos for?
Leave all this to the system itself please.
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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2015, 08:23:12 pm »
just stick a thread here on bitsharestalk forum where you explain which core devs you support and need anytime...

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Re: Default Vote for Core Devs???
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2015, 08:24:08 pm »


just stick a thread here on bitsharestalk forum where you explain which core devs you support and need anytime voted in...

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