Why aren't there many women in crypto?

[yankey]

My 3 year old daughter knows more about circuit boards than any low voltage tech I have ever met.  She knows more about coding in javascript than most first year cs majors.
 
Girl power! http://youtu.be/o8Ui4xXL19A
 
Ya know, I'd like to also mention here that to teach crypto is quite simple..
Take your bitcoin-curious female friend out for lunch. If she drives, you buy.
Tell her that you'll show her in about 5min how easy bitcoin is to use. (this assumes the cafe accepts bitcoin)
She installs mycelium, you send her some bitcoin, she pays for lunch. Send her another couple bucks worth of bitcoin on the drive home for the gas.
When you get home, show her how to do a backup, use coinality, do some online shopping, etc.
Planting seeds is fun, no?
 
Peace thru Crypto

Have done / am continuing to do just exactly that!

Do you run the "rawdog" u tube channel?

nope. thats not me.

[kenCode]

No.
If I post a youtube it's usually thru my personal g+ page, just my family stuff.

[fuzzy]

My 3 year old daughter knows more about circuit boards than any low voltage tech I have ever met.  She knows more about coding in javascript than most first year cs majors.
 
Girl power! http://youtu.be/o8Ui4xXL19A
 
Ya know, I'd like to also mention here that to teach crypto is quite simple..
Take your bitcoin-curious female friend out for lunch. If she drives, you buy.
Tell her that you'll show her in about 5min how easy bitcoin is to use. (this assumes the cafe accepts bitcoin)
She installs mycelium, you send her some bitcoin, she pays for lunch. Send her another couple bucks worth of bitcoin on the drive home for the gas.
When you get home, show her how to do a backup, use coinality, do some online shopping, etc.
Planting seeds is fun, no?
 
Peace thru Crypto

Have done / am continuing to do just exactly that!

Do you run the "rawdog" u tube channel?

[yankey]

My 3 year old daughter knows more about circuit boards than any low voltage tech I have ever met.  She knows more about coding in javascript than most first year cs majors.
 
Girl power! http://youtu.be/o8Ui4xXL19A
 
Ya know, I'd like to also mention here that to teach crypto is quite simple..
Take your bitcoin-curious female friend out for lunch. If she drives, you buy.
Tell her that you'll show her in about 5min how easy bitcoin is to use. (this assumes the cafe accepts bitcoin)
She installs mycelium, you send her some bitcoin, she pays for lunch. Send her another couple bucks worth of bitcoin on the drive home for the gas.
When you get home, show her how to do a backup, use coinality, do some online shopping, etc.
Planting seeds is fun, no?
 
Peace thru Crypto

Have done / am continuing to do just exactly that!

[kenCode]

My 3 year old daughter knows more about circuit boards than any low voltage tech I have ever met.  She knows more about coding in javascript than most first year cs majors.
 
Girl power! http://youtu.be/o8Ui4xXL19A
 
Ya know, I'd like to also mention here that to teach crypto is quite simple..
Take your bitcoin-curious female friend out for lunch. If she drives, you buy.
Tell her that you'll show her in about 5min how easy bitcoin is to use. (this assumes the cafe accepts bitcoin)
She installs mycelium, you send her some bitcoin, she pays for lunch. Send her another couple bucks worth of bitcoin on the drive home for the gas.
When you get home, show her how to do a backup, use coinality, do some online shopping, etc.
Planting seeds is fun, no?
 
Peace thru Crypto

[hadrian]

There are probably a lot more women here, and in crypto in general, than you'd think. By using names that do not single them out as female they can interact in the community like anyone else.

One member, mira, is self identified as female and had some remarks the last time this was brought up.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7525.msg100130#msg100130

Though I agree there are likely more than we think I am inclined to believe that it is still largely male dominated space. ..which is odd.   You'd think the mere presence of the man who is Riverhead would have them coming here in hordes.

Though I agree there are likely more than we think I am inclined to believe that it is still largely male dominated space. ..which is odd.   You'd think the mere presence of the man who is fuzzy would have them coming here in hordes.

[fuzzy]

There are probably a lot more women here, and in crypto in general, than you'd think. By using names that do not single them out as female they can interact in the community like anyone else.

One member, mira, is self identified as female and had some remarks the last time this was brought up.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7525.msg100130#msg100130

Though I agree there are likely more than we think I am inclined to believe that it is still largely male dominated space. ..which is odd.   You'd think the mere presence of the man who is Riverhead would have them coming here in hordes.

[Riverhead]

There are probably a lot more women here, and in crypto in general, than you'd think. By using names that do not single them out as female they can interact in the community like anyone else.

One member, mira, is self identified as female and had some remarks the last time this was brought up.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7525.msg100130#msg100130

[fuzzy]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

Well then why aren't there many women in this space?

I recently read an article on psychology today talking about stereotypes. The author was basically saying that there is an element of truth to stereotypes and that that is why they even exist in the first place. Trust me I'd like to believe that stereotypes hold no truth but maybe that author was right.

i.e. Black men are deadbeat dads
      conservatives are religious
      most latinos are descendant of Mexico

Most stereotypes are correct to a level of statistical significance, but that doesn't necessarily make them helpful in our current paradigm.  We are still working with pretty outdated hardware (and software). 
Our brains developed in such a way as to need to categorize objects in the world around us.  It is, as with most everything else with which we are equipped, a mechanism that has served us well in many respects throughout evolution of humankind.  For instance, our ancestors were stereotyping tigers when they categorized them as predators that could potentially harm them...and thus stayed alive instead of going up and attempting to hug it.  Stereotypes have served useful functions in the past paradigms.

Unfortunately those who control the media and high echelons of power are very well aware of these tendencies and to a large degree have found ways to both create and use false stereotypes against us.  Propaganda is very effective in war and its chief intents are threefold:
1) to instill fear and doubt in the opponent
2) to divide the opponents within their own ranks
3) to ensure the loyalty of those who side with the contextual framing of reality promoted by the "elite"

Fortunately, we are also the only known species capable of something called "metacognition" (the ability to think about how we think).  This means that if we are careful we can rise above the negative consequences of stereotypes engineered to pit us against each other.  However, humans are also the only known species in existence capable of what is called "metacognition" (thinking about how we think)...so if we are mindful, we will be able to gain an incredible resilience to the propaganda that is intended to divide us. 

As for woman not being in crypto...it is a fact that they are not here in as large of numbers.  This is simply because they are members of demographics to which crypto hasn't really yet reached...there are just as many reasons that females would like to use crypto as for males to use them..  but I suspect that we are so early in the game that only the techy demographic (primarily populated by males) is around to really consider how valuable it will become.

[liondani]

Why aren't there many women in crypto?

Maybe they are smarter then us (?)  **


** it is obvious that I am frustrated again due the price decline

[jae208]

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

 

I must say that I find some of the comments in this thread disappointingly unconstructive at best.
I must also say that I dislike the word 'unconstructive', but have, nevertheless, decided to use it!

The only comments I thought to be offensive were in the OP...well, unless you're Angela Merkel 

I didn't go into such great detail but I was thinking about the topic from an evolutionary perspective as I was typing. From an evolutionary stand point men are expendable and if a man wants to fulfill nature's goal, to have offspring, he either has to have excellent genes aka good looks or use his intellect in order to acquire wealth and power. From an evolutionary perspective a female would prefer a male with wealth and high status over a male with none and if the female is very attractive males are willing to give the female what she wants. Attractive females have males fighting over them and unattractive females don't and so if they want wealth and status they have to work for it themselves, like Angela Merkel.

[jae208]

Well some things are not for everyone. I personally think that arguing about the whys is counterproductive, when we should be asking the hows. How can we get more women to actually use cryptocurrency.

The key is to look for the void, and fill it. Utilize what we know about them, their lifestyle, their personal preferences (just like what some of you guys describe in this thread) and create something that will help achieve what they want.

Make it more relatable. Create 'artificial demands' if there's none. Educate them. Use scare tactics when needed, why they should use a more secure form of currency when shopping online, etc. Get more women products merchant to accept crypto as payment and whatnot.

While maybe there's only a few women working on the backend of crypto technology, never underestimate their potential to help grow crypto economy as a whole. Never underestimate their true buying power. You can create the best most secure internet money in the world, but it doesn't mean jack shit if nobody ever use it. They can be the user, heck they might possibly be the majority of crypto user soon. That sounds like an important role to me.

Ask this guy, he knows what's up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amancio_Ortega_Gaona

I would think that the 'why' comes first because you need to understand why you are doing something before you figure out the how. Like, "Why is it that Bitshares was even built."

I think that link further strengthens the stereotype that women care more about fashion in general.

[abelljefrry]

Well some things are not for everyone. I personally think that arguing about the whys is counterproductive, when we should be asking the hows. How can we get more women to actually use cryptocurrency.

The key is to look for the void, and fill it. Utilize what we know about them, their lifestyle, their personal preferences (just like what some of you guys describe in this thread) and create something that will help achieve what they want.

Make it more relatable. Create 'artificial demands' if there's none. Educate them. Use scare tactics when needed, why they should use a more secure form of currency when shopping online, etc. Get more women products merchant to accept crypto as payment and whatnot.

While maybe there's only a few women working on the backend of crypto technology, never underestimate their potential to help grow crypto economy as a whole. Never underestimate their true buying power. You can create the best most secure internet money in the world, but it doesn't mean jack shit if nobody ever use it. They can be the user, heck they might possibly be the majority of crypto user soon. That sounds like an important role to me.

Ask this guy, he knows what's up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amancio_Ortega_Gaona

[yankey]

There are so few women interested in crypto for the same reason most guys don't want to paint their bedroom walls pink.  You can talk all day about how great pink is, and the benefits of pink over any other color, but at the end of the day, most guys still wont care.  It doesn't interest them.  Most women wont be interested until they are presented with an appropriate use case that only crypto can solve. If you want to get women interested, find the use cases they care about FIRST before rambling on with the technobabble.

yes

[yankey]

Good question.

A large number of women are not interested in low level "how stuff works". i.e. The Hard Stuff. They are more touchy feely, "How does this make me feel better" and all that stuff..

I reckon this is where we get all the endless misguided attempts so "save" something-or-other (insert Whales, Forests, etc), and to "help" the underprivileged out of poverty though socialist force - they simply can not see how this won't work. Why? Because they can't see the low level mechanics of these ideas.

A perfect current example is Saving  the Elephants: Their depth of comprehension ends here :- "We just need to cuddle them more and have more laws Duh! - It's a no brainier really!" - Totally not getting the point that we are now up against the "economics of extinction", where just talking about it hypes the market and elephants are now being killed just to reduce the supply.

There is even the theory that women are the prime drivers of The State (see molyneaux youtube and elsewhere). Because they are so hard wired to fall for the tall dark handsome powerful bad ass talking heads who "speak to their inner wants" and all that crap. Plus - they are primed to want "free stuff" - the impossible "something for nothing" - which is why they mostly support the non productive business plan of The State:- i.e. Rob Peter -> Pay Paul. Cost of doing that:- Huge systemic debt.

My two cents.

[sschechter]

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

 

I must say that I find some of the comments in this thread disappointingly unconstructive at best.
I must also say that I dislike the word 'unconstructive', but have, nevertheless, decided to use it!

The only comments I thought to be offensive were in the OP...well, unless you're Angela Merkel 

[hadrian]

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

 

I must say that I find some of the comments in this thread disappointingly unconstructive at best.
I must also say that I dislike the word 'unconstructive', but have, nevertheless, decided to use it!

[sschechter]

There are so few women interested in crypto for the same reason most guys don't want to paint their bedroom walls pink.  You can talk all day about how great pink is, and the benefits of pink over any other color, but at the end of the day, most guys still wont care.  It doesn't interest them.  Most women wont be interested until they are presented with an appropriate use case that only crypto can solve. If you want to get women interested, find the use cases they care about FIRST before rambling on with the technobabble.

[38PTSWarrior]

Maybe they have netbooks

[liondani]

Google analytics shows that almost half of the visitors of my site are female.

now it make sense... why you are still not voted in

Sent from my ALCATEL ONE TOUCH 997D

[mf-tzo]

Hey hey hey.

German here.

Angela Merkel doesn't count.



 

hahahahahaha

[38PTSWarrior]

Google analytics shows that almost half of the visitors of my site are female.

[JA]

Hey hey hey.

German here.

Angela Merkel doesn't count.



 

[xiahui135]

Because:
1. It is not easy, needing computer skills
2.it is not useful in daily life or work.

[robrigo]

The low numbers of women in Computer Science and programming professions are probably also a contributing factor. Agree with lil_jay890 though; there are many professional and very successful women in todays age. There really isn't a whole lot of people interested in crypto as a whole, relative to the world's population.

Do all the men in crypto have a computer science and programming background? I sure don't do you?

I wasn't inferring everybody does but there's a fair amount of people in the space that do. Also, the low numbers of women studying those fields would indicate that there isn't a particularly big interest in software among females, and at the end of the day crypto is another software project.

[jae208]

The low numbers of women in Computer Science and programming professions are probably also a contributing factor. Agree with lil_jay890 though; there are many professional and very successful women in todays age. There really isn't a whole lot of people interested in crypto as a whole, relative to the world's population.

Do all the men in crypto have a computer science and programming background? I sure don't do you?

[jae208]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

Well then why aren't there many women in this space?

I recently read an article on psychology today talking about stereotypes. The author was basically saying that there is an element of truth to stereotypes and that that is why they even exist in the first place. Trust me I'd like to believe that stereotypes hold no truth but maybe that author was right.

i.e. Black men are deadbeat dads

Basically you are saying women have no drive to be great and they only care about looking pretty and gossiping... and all they need to do is find a man to woo her.

This isn't the 1960's anymore.  I don't know how women are viewed where you are from, but this is not the way they are treated in modern culture.  Here's a list of women CEO's of Fortune 500 companies.

CEO   Company   2014 Fortune 500 ranking
Mary Barra   General Motors   7
Meg Whitman[2]   Hewlett-Packard   17
Virginia Rometty[3]   IBM   23
Patricia A. Woertz[4]   Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM)   27
Indra K. Nooyi[5]   PepsiCo, Inc.   43
Marillyn Hewson[6]   Lockheed Martin   59
Safra A. Catz[7]   Oracle   82
Ellen J. Kullman[8]   DuPont   86
Irene B. Rosenfeld[9]   Mondelēz International   89
Phebe Novakovic   General Dynamics   99
Carol Meyrowitz   The TJX Companies, Inc.   108
Lynn Good[10]   Duke Energy   123
Ursula M. Burns[11]   Xerox Corporation   137
Sheri S. McCoy[12]   Avon Products Inc.   234
Deanna M. Mulligan   Guardian Life Insurance Company of America   245
Kimberly S. Bowers   CST Brands   266
Debra L. Reed   Sempra Energy   267
Barbara Rentler   Ross Stores   277
Denise M. Morrison[13]   Campbell Soup   315
Susan M. Cameron   Reynolds American   329
Heather Bresch[14]   Mylan   377
Ilene S. Gordon   Ingredion   412
Jacqueline C. Hinman   CH2M Hill   437
Kathleen M. Mazzarella   Graybar Electric   449
Lisa Su[15]   Advanced Micro Devices   474
Gracia C. Martore[16]   Gannett   481

Lets also not forget all the women in politics like:
Angela Merkel
Hillary Clinton
Dilma Roussef
Park Geun-Hye
Micelle Bachelet

There are currently women in crypto as well and more women will come when adoption becomes greater. Right now crypto has been mostly adopted by a libertarian mindset.  Libertarians are 94% white, 68% are men and 62% are under 50.  Look a lot like what crypto demographics might be??  When crypto can cater to a larger group of political ideals, the adoption will grow.

True, I don't deny that there are women in crypto, government and fortune 500 companies. I would say that those particular women are the exception though, they aren't your average female. Plus relative to all fortune 500 companies and governments they are a minority. So why is it that this is the case? Is it because there is a conspiracy among men to keep all women out or is it that many women simply don't care?

Even if the only people that are in crypto have a libertarian mindset I would imagine that the 32% of libertarian women would be attracted to crypto as well.

Are 32% of people in crypto women?

I don't consider myself libertarian I'm not white but I am young and male.

[donkeypong]

Stereotyping doesn't reflect all the individual women who have various strengths and interests, some of whom have excelled in these fields. However, on average, you can make some pretty clear generalizations based on research. (1) There are fewer women in tech and finance, and (2) When it comes to money and investing, women are less risk tolerant than men. (Ironically, studies have shown that both approaches to investing end up about the same). Crypto is high tech, it's finance, and it's very risky. Hence, fewer women have been attracted to this field so far. Hopefully, that will change as this gets better established.

[robrigo]

The low numbers of women in Computer Science and programming professions are probably also a contributing factor. Agree with lil_jay890 though; there are many professional and very successful women in todays age. There really isn't a whole lot of people interested in crypto as a whole, relative to the world's population.

[lil_jay890]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

Well then why aren't there many women in this space?

I recently read an article on psychology today talking about stereotypes. The author was basically saying that there is an element of truth to stereotypes and that that is why they even exist in the first place. Trust me I'd like to believe that stereotypes hold no truth but maybe that author was right.

i.e. Black men are deadbeat dads

Basically you are saying women have no drive to be great and they only care about looking pretty and gossiping... and all they need to do is find a man to woo her.

This isn't the 1960's anymore.  I don't know how women are viewed where you are from, but this is not the way they are treated in modern culture.  Here's a list of women CEO's of Fortune 500 companies.

CEO   Company   2014 Fortune 500 ranking
Mary Barra   General Motors   7
Meg Whitman[2]   Hewlett-Packard   17
Virginia Rometty[3]   IBM   23
Patricia A. Woertz[4]   Archer Daniels Midland Company (ADM)   27
Indra K. Nooyi[5]   PepsiCo, Inc.   43
Marillyn Hewson[6]   Lockheed Martin   59
Safra A. Catz[7]   Oracle   82
Ellen J. Kullman[8]   DuPont   86
Irene B. Rosenfeld[9]   Mondelēz International   89
Phebe Novakovic   General Dynamics   99
Carol Meyrowitz   The TJX Companies, Inc.   108
Lynn Good[10]   Duke Energy   123
Ursula M. Burns[11]   Xerox Corporation   137
Sheri S. McCoy[12]   Avon Products Inc.   234
Deanna M. Mulligan   Guardian Life Insurance Company of America   245
Kimberly S. Bowers   CST Brands   266
Debra L. Reed   Sempra Energy   267
Barbara Rentler   Ross Stores   277
Denise M. Morrison[13]   Campbell Soup   315
Susan M. Cameron   Reynolds American   329
Heather Bresch[14]   Mylan   377
Ilene S. Gordon   Ingredion   412
Jacqueline C. Hinman   CH2M Hill   437
Kathleen M. Mazzarella   Graybar Electric   449
Lisa Su[15]   Advanced Micro Devices   474
Gracia C. Martore[16]   Gannett   481

Lets also not forget all the women in politics like:
Angela Merkel
Hillary Clinton
Dilma Roussef
Park Geun-Hye
Micelle Bachelet

There are currently women in crypto as well and more women will come when adoption becomes greater. Right now crypto has been mostly adopted by a libertarian mindset.  Libertarians are 94% white, 68% are men and 62% are under 50.  Look a lot like what crypto demographics might be??  When crypto can cater to a larger group of political ideals, the adoption will grow.

[mf-tzo]

As I said in the past...Whoever figures out how to use this technology and makes a "Fashion DAC" to attract the women in this space will have the keys to the kingdom..

[jae208]

Plus its not like women can't get easily involved if they wanted to. The barriers of entry into crypto are extremely low and the knowledge necessary to appreciate this technology is out there free to consume in the form of videos, blog posts and forums.

It's not like you even have to go to college for years and get thousands of dollars in debt to start learning about this.

[Troglodactyl]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

Indeed, if you're going for sexist stereotyping, at least phrase it as a challenge.  If you said women were incapable of understanding crypto, and if any women actually cared what you had to say on the matter, then I'm sure they'd be here in an instant to prove you wrong.

[jae208]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

Well then why aren't there many women in this space?

I recently read an article on psychology today talking about stereotypes. The author was basically saying that there is an element of truth to stereotypes and that that is why they even exist in the first place. Trust me I'd like to believe that stereotypes hold no truth but maybe that author was right.

i.e. Black men are deadbeat dads
      conservatives are religious
      most latinos are descendant of Mexico

[lil_jay890]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.

Sexist stereotyping probably isn't going to help...

[jae208]

What are your thoughts?





I think the reason there aren't many women in crypto land is because they simply don't care.  It seems like many women are usually more interested in fashion and gossip. Plus, if the woman is pretty she will have hordes of men trying to give her everything she wants in hopes of 'winning her.' So there is no incentive for her to create and build things that will make her rich, powerful or admired. Men are already doing that.