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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2015, 08:05:28 am »
Is there any chance we can delete this thread and work on achieving this with private communications?

I really dont think bitshares needs even more disappointing news right now.  MethodX has done a lot for us, and I'm sure he will do more again in the future at some point, and his delegate money is going towards needed advertising campaigns.

I worry that this thread will be interpreted by the chinese community as "the western people are doing nothing" which would be innacurate.

I understand your trepidation... Personally I would not fret over what the Chinese think on this. This is just a personal plea to someone.. though they might not have done it in such a public manner the way this is. People here do things differently sometimes.

bitsharesmarket assessment seems about right. Not the right time or place for him right now with all he has on the go.. I know the feeling well... past leaving a bad taste is also understandable. Perhaps if he saw some of the more recent cool stuff going on he might get excited.. Maybe someone should create a futures on him coming back :)
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2015, 10:32:59 am »

There is a very fundamental problem when everyone puts so much importance on one person who doesn't really want to be the leader anymore. This is not the organizational structure you will want in a DAC.

If this person is actively differed to by others then this situation can become a real bottleneck. Unless they have demonstrated unique proven skills then the bottleneck needs to be routed around until it has been corrected by whatever other means. (A freeing up of time?)

I hope methodx continues to find time to work on bitshares projects. He did good work.
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2015, 10:49:55 am »
Personally I believe he has nothing he can do till the proper funnel (online wallet, light wallet) comes online and he will be better at converting the traffic from his building up of delegate funds.

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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2015, 01:37:57 pm »
i'm personally thinking, if we would pay him a usual salary he would work more again! Maybe i'm wrong. But i'm getting same problems right now!
Currently i'm working 160+ h a month for approx 960€ (i'm paying 650€ rent per month).
I would love to assist more but due salary issues...
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2015, 03:07:41 pm »
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2015, 03:47:42 pm »
This was not needed

Anytime there is someone in your family who needs a little lift, do we walk away from them or do we let them know we are there for them? 

The only reason I posted this was in hopes that all the community members who saw it would reach out to him, say thank you and offer him some words of appreciation for all he's done.   Have you guys reached out? ( no need to answer...this is a question to ask yourselves privately )

I know what it is like to know you are working on a project you have passion for but then at times have that passion wane.  This is especially true when in the outside world you see great opportunities come knocking and then pass you by.  And even moreso when others can be so intent on spending their time writing huge posts explaining why you are not doing well enough to meet their standards with the small amount of resources at your disposal--as opposed to taking that time to lend a hand.

This wasn't meant to be an announcement to the world that Marketing was dead!  This was meant to be a call to action for all of us to reach into our hearts and connect with someone who did bust his butt for us at a time when we needed it most. 

I hope you guys consider these words...it took me a good bit of introspection to realize this myself and I still need to be reminded at times (thanks btw mira).  We should never be afraid to confront both the dark and bright sides of our humanity...and we should never be afraid to be honest with ourselves.  At first I was mad about it, but the more I sit and think, the more I realize just how valuable all of you are.  Every single one of you.  Method is one of us...and I don't want him to leave damnit!

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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2015, 05:32:29 pm »
I will short my shit out of bitUSDs & bitEUROs if MethodX gives a  +5% on this picture!!!


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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2015, 05:47:24 pm »
This was not needed

The only reason I posted this was in hopes that all the community members who saw it would reach out to him, say thank you and offer him some words of appreciation for all he's done.   Have you guys reached out? ( no need to answer...this is a question to ask yourselves

How about we offer him five more delegate positions
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2015, 05:58:04 pm »
This was not needed

The only reason I posted this was in hopes that all the community members who saw it would reach out to him, say thank you and offer him some words of appreciation for all he's done.   Have you guys reached out? ( no need to answer...this is a question to ask yourselves

How about we offer him five more delegate positions

 +5%

We expect him to play a bigger role in marketing but he's not getting Brian's salary, or any salary. Not getting Brian's bonuses or the hundreds of thousands that were spent on Vote. He lacks resources and incentives. He's and busy talented guy, he still seems to help out where he can, and is still doing an advertising campaign with his delegate pay  but let's look to the people Brian's funds we're spent on and Adam.

Method would just be enriching others and validating poor business decisions by allowing himself to be further exploited imo.
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2015, 06:07:33 pm »
This was not needed

The only reason I posted this was in hopes that all the community members who saw it would reach out to him, say thank you and offer him some words of appreciation for all he's done.   Have you guys reached out? ( no need to answer...this is a question to ask yourselves

How about we offer him five more delegate positions

 +5%

We expect him to play a bigger role in marketing but he's not getting Brian's salary, or any salary. Not getting Brian's bonuses or the hundreds of thousands that were spent on Vote. He lacks resources and incentives. He's and busy talented guy, he still seems to help out where he can, and is still doing an advertising campaign with his delegate pay  but let's look to the people Brian's funds we're spent on and Adam.

Method would just be enriching others and validating poor business decisions by allowing himself to be further exploited imo.

Agree - how about a thread to call the people getting angel share funds to be more transparent, hard-working and innovative.

Then let's also vote in some more delegates to fund Method because no matter how much volunteering some people do - it's still all part of a personal value equation and  Incentives Rule The World

Also FYI Method brought ideas and production to the table only to be told by devs that they didn't like his marketing angle - Stacey.  We hadn't even tried one video. 
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2015, 06:26:23 pm »
This was not needed

The only reason I posted this was in hopes that all the community members who saw it would reach out to him, say thank you and offer him some words of appreciation for all he's done.   Have you guys reached out? ( no need to answer...this is a question to ask yourselves

How about we offer him five more delegate positions

 +5%

We expect him to play a bigger role in marketing but he's not getting Brian's salary, or any salary. Not getting Brian's bonuses or the hundreds of thousands that were spent on Vote. He lacks resources and incentives. He's and busy talented guy, he still seems to help out where he can, and is still doing an advertising campaign with his delegate pay  but let's look to the people Brian's funds we're spent on and Adam.

Method would just be enriching others and validating poor business decisions by allowing himself to be further exploited imo.

Agree - how about a thread to call the people getting angel share funds to be more transparent, hard-working and innovative.

Then let's also vote in some more delegates to fund Method because no matter how much volunteering some people do - it's still a value equation and  Incentives Rule The World

Also FYI Method brought ideas and production to the table only to be told by devs that they didn't like his marketing angle - Stacey.  We hadn't even tried one video.

Yeah, I think we need to be able to offer a salary to a main marketing guy whether we want that to be Method or someone else. Personally my vote would go to Method though if he was interested.

It would have been great to try 1 Stacey video for sure. Whatever happens I'm especially grateful that when you search our main product, 'BitUSD' that 'WhatisBitUSD.com' is there at least. Great little site.
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2015, 07:29:35 pm »


Good point.  +5%

You can only lead a horse to water.

Think this has been done in spades.

If it had the desired impact, I think we would have heard something from him by now.

Hope he does well in his endevours... pretty sure when the affiliate program kicks in you will see him and others popping in.
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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2015, 09:32:07 pm »
This was not needed

Anytime there is someone in your family who needs a little lift, do we walk away from them or do we let them know we are there for them? 


Family is one thing.  This is another.  Personally, if I were to need a little lift, I would want the choice of publicly announcing it, and if someone else made that choice for me I'd be spitting fire. 

...  he still seems to help out where he can, and is still doing an advertising campaign with his delegate pay  ...

^^ THIS^^ 
Whether or not a delegate is following through with the proposals that got them voted in is the only relevant discussion on this forum, IMHO.  Anything else is unnecessary drama.

Offline BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2015, 11:34:44 pm »

Family is one thing.  This is another.  Personally, if I were to need a little lift, I would want the choice of publicly announcing it, and if someone else made that choice for me I'd be spitting fire. 


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Re: Project Bring Back Method's Passion...
« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2015, 11:59:55 pm »
Method is good but rgcrypto is more effective and spending more time on it.

If you want to fund someone with a delegate basically you backing someone with your delegate funding, go with rgcrpyto.

Im all for having like 50 paid delegates to make the ecosystem.

Method will come back as long as we (bitshares) doesnt get shot down by a black swan or even a known unknown.