Author Topic: List your PGP public key and experiment with me. (Read 8833 times)

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Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on February 15, 2015, 02:31:38 pm

Quote from: Method-X on February 15, 2015, 12:55:13 pm
What can be done with a fingerprint? It can't be used to verify an encrypted message can it? I'm genuinely curious.
A fingerprint can be uses to identify and verify a public key .. its like a short version of the pubkey .. though you cannot derive the pubkey from it

In terms of crypto currencies .. the fingerprint would be an address to a public key

The fingerprint is a good way to verify that a public key that was transmitted via an unsecured medium hasn't been tampered with in transit.

For example, suppose you and I want to communicate securely, so you download my public key from the keyserver, or you ask me to email it to you. In those cases, you shouldn't trust the public key you receive, since someone else could have replaced my public key with their own by the time you receive it.

So, you contact me via a more trusted/secure channel, such as a PM on bitsharestalk or call me on my phone, etc., and I send/tell you the key fingerprint, which you can then compare against the fingerprint of the public key you received.

This way, in order to fool you into using their public key to encrypt messages intended for me, an attacker would not only have to get you to use the wrong public key, but they would also have to impersonate me on the second channel to communicate the key fingerprint.

pc

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

My (user "pc" in bitsharestalk forum) key can be found here:
http://p80.pool.sks-keyservers.net/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x98EA71B7CBD67E9B
(Not posting it here, it's rather long.)

The fingerprint is 3FB9 882F 22FF 6E34 BEF5 A2E2 98EA 71B7 CBD6 7E9B .
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iEYEARECAAYFAlTu6msACgkQmOpxt8vWfpuQzQCfepMjqMT9yEqQqar2GVD11vP7
+qgAn2Im3PzSDjrF5dT8d15aP8f0KB5w
=ZEEP
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

karnal

Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm

Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

That makes no sense.

arhag

@hadrian

Code: [Select]

hadrian

Here's a message which can be decrypted by Method-X, arhag, matt608, luckybit and Tuck Fheman (assuming I've done my first message correctly):

Code: [Select]

hadrian · « *Last Edit: February 26, 2015, 04:34:57 pm by hadrian* »

Edit: My user ID is hadrian, and my fingerprint is B092E2B0AF1DFCAB7CF28DED513B2A5A6E2D7FC2

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arhag

Quote from: Method-X on February 16, 2015, 03:39:01 am

Quote from: vikram on February 15, 2015, 09:44:01 pm
Everyone please be careful to follow best practices with handling your keys, including e.g. backing up revocation certificates if you are submitting to keyservers, etc.

Hey Vikram, do you have a link to some best practices? I'm interested in learning what "revocation certificates" are. I'll do some quick Googling...

I actually posted a guide earlier in this thread that had a lot of the best practices (https://help.riseup.net/en/security/message-security/openpgp/best-practices), although it is written for the CLI application GnuPG for Linux.

Tuck Fheman · « *Last Edit: April 01, 2015, 10:21:29 pm by Tuck Fheman* »

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) <--- lulz

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=W2eu
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

2048bit ... I have the securitah credentials to work for the DEA!

Method-X

Quote from: vikram on February 15, 2015, 09:44:01 pm

Everyone please be careful to follow best practices with handling your keys, including e.g. backing up revocation certificates if you are submitting to keyservers, etc.

Hey Vikram, do you have a link to some best practices? I'm interested in learning what "revocation certificates" are. I'll do some quick Googling...

Method-X · « *Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 03:36:50 am by Method-X* »

Quote from: cass on February 15, 2015, 10:30:08 pm

Do you think something like this would make sense to integrate on user profile!?

@luckybit

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Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org

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=01eE
-----END PGP MESSAGE-----

cass · « *Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 10:32:03 pm by cass* »

Do you think something like this would make sense to integrate on user profile!?

vikram

Everyone please be careful to follow best practices with handling your keys, including e.g. backing up revocation certificates if you are submitting to keyservers, etc.

luckybit

Hello NSA. I know you're reading this thread so here is my public key.

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xeroc

Quote from: Method-X on February 15, 2015, 12:55:13 pm

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on February 14, 2015, 10:10:47 pm
Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 08:15:46 pm
Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm
Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

OpenPGP is a protocol that can be made user friendly. The technology is not flawed, only obscured by a learning curve that can (and will) be made easier for the lay user in the future.
Reminder of my prev. post here ...
You can put the fingerprint into the public field of you bts account

What can be done with a fingerprint? It can't be used to verify an encrypted message can it? I'm genuinely curious.

A fingerprint can be uses to identify and verify a public key .. its like a short version of the pubkey .. though you cannot derive the pubkey from it

In terms of crypto currencies .. the fingerprint would be an address to a public key

Method-X

Quote from: xeroc ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ on February 14, 2015, 10:10:47 pm

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 08:15:46 pm
Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm
Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

OpenPGP is a protocol that can be made user friendly. The technology is not flawed, only obscured by a learning curve that can (and will) be made easier for the lay user in the future.
Reminder of my prev. post here ...
You can put the fingerprint into the public field of you bts account

What can be done with a fingerprint? It can't be used to verify an encrypted message can it? I'm genuinely curious.

xeroc

http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Delegate/PublicData

arhag

Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm

Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

Indeed, it is flawed. No way to send encrypted, signed messages to someone while still maintaining plausible deniability. No ability to have forward secrecy if you want it.

We should still support it because it is a standard. And putting the PGP fingerprints in the account's public JSON is a good way of doing that. Also, implementing web-of-trust on the blockchain is a good idea.

But yes, we can and should do better.

I think Axolotl is a really interesting protocol that is worth looking into. This is the system I would like to see BitShares encrypted chat to use.

xeroc

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 08:15:46 pm

Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm
Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

OpenPGP is a protocol that can be made user friendly. The technology is not flawed, only obscured by a learning curve that can (and will) be made easier for the lay user in the future.

Reminder of my prev. post here ...
You can put the fingerprint into the public field of you bts account

Method-X

Quote from: speedy on February 14, 2015, 08:09:11 pm

Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

OpenPGP is a protocol that can be made user friendly. The technology is not flawed, only obscured by a learning curve that can (and will) be made easier for the lay user in the future.

fuzzy

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 04:48:16 pm

I think it's a good idea for the regulars here to get comfortable with using PGP. Do some Googling and figure out the basics, then post your public key. Please make sure the name you use when creating the key is the same as your forum username as to minimize confusion.

For OS X
For Windows

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Great idea. I'll post mine as soon as I get home

speedy

Bah PGP is flawed. It hasnt court on precisely because we have to do this step of sharing public keys.

Thankfully we now have a better solution: registering easy to remember names on a blockchain.

Method-X

Quote from: arhag on February 14, 2015, 07:54:25 pm

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 06:51:39 pm
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nkbfk1lf7wluxm/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2013.51.23.png?dl=0

Hmm... odd. I did find this old bug report (https://gpgtools.lighthouseapp.com/projects/67607/tickets/137-verify-from-services-menu-does-not-work), but I'm not sure what exactly is going on.

Let me try with an encrypted message:
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Version: GnuPG v1

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Yup, I can see it just fine. Probably an issue with your version vs. mine.

arhag

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 06:51:39 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nkbfk1lf7wluxm/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2013.51.23.png?dl=0

Hmm... odd. I did find this old bug report (https://gpgtools.lighthouseapp.com/projects/67607/tickets/137-verify-from-services-menu-does-not-work), but I'm not sure what exactly is going on.

Let me try with an encrypted message:
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Version: GnuPG v1

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matt608 · « *Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 07:27:42 pm by matt608* »

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 07:00:46 pm

Message received!

Here's a poem I've become quite fond of for both you and @arhag

received!

Secret poetry, I like it.

Method-X

Quote from: matt608 on February 14, 2015, 06:56:46 pm

@Medthod-X, here's a message for you:

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Message received!

Here's a poem I've become quite fond of for both you and @arhag

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matt608

@Medthod-X, here's a message for you:

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Method-X

Quote from: arhag on February 14, 2015, 05:45:05 pm

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 05:09:21 pm
@arhag

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No problem!

Try verifying this:
Code: [Select]
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/8nkbfk1lf7wluxm/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2013.51.23.png?dl=0

matt608 · « *Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 06:41:44 pm by matt608* »

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arhag · « *Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 05:59:20 pm by arhag* »

Quote from: Method-X on February 14, 2015, 05:09:21 pm

@arhag

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No problem!

Try verifying this:

Code: [Select]

xeroc

You can add you gpg fingerprint to you bts account name .. checkout delegate.xeroc
Theres a wiki page dedicated to the publicdata field with a python sample code ..

Method-X

@arhag

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arhag · « *Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 05:37:45 pm by arhag* »

Good idea.

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Edit: I changed the above after updating my keys to use better practices (like preferring SHA512 for the digest algorithm); see here for more details. I also renewed the expiration time.

Method-X · « *Last Edit: February 14, 2015, 08:34:53 pm by Method-X* »

I think it's a good idea for the regulars here to get comfortable with using PGP. Do some Googling and figure out the basics, then post your public key. Please make sure the name you use when creating the key is the same as your forum username as to minimize confusion.

For OS X
For Windows

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