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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #315 on: October 26, 2015, 11:43:04 pm »
Hey everyone. Good job for opening up the questions!
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #316 on: October 27, 2015, 12:17:26 am »
Regarding this commit: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-2-ui/commit/9c396f1dbda06d032c4b8f25b08ab05ea51a2905

The BTS UI license was changed retroactively without telling anyone to add a clause that prevents anyone from running hosted webwallets, in my interpretion, without a seperate CNX license.

Questions:

1. Why wasn't this discussed and announced on the forums before hand, and have all the individual non-CNX contributors agreed to a license change for their previous commits?
I have published a few pull requests that have gotten merged, and I haven't known about this before today.

2. What are the real consequences of this license change? Can I still run a web wallet with my self written faucet since there's no public faucet available?

3. Why are important changes like this are not discussed/announced before they go into effect? Just like that 4 minute notice-time before the 100% fee increase.

I thought this was covered in the 2nd topic of last weeks hangout, is that not the case?

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So some people have expressed concern that that’s us changing rules or changing what we said and I think we can go back and review past Mumble sessions and verify that we haven’t actually changed our stance on this. Our stance has always been that the wallet would be available for anyone that wants to run it on their own, wants to use it for their use. But if you want to be someone like OpenLedger, then you’ve got to get a separate license from us and that was going to be how Cryptonomex monetized all the money we’ve invested into building this wallet. So if we allow it to be completely open source, then there’s no reason for multi-user websites like OpenLedger or Banx or what DataSecurityNode is working on, there’s no reason for them to get a license from us at all and Cryptonomex has no business model.

So that’s what we were trying to do. But we also recognize that to the extent that there’s a barrier to entry it prevents developers from taking the work we’ve done and building on it and deploying it on their own website or doing whatever it is they want to do with it. I think a lot of this can be solved by working with the Community. Anyone who creates improvements on the wallet, we are more than happy to incorporate into the wallet, more than happy to include in the light wallet that anyone can use and download free of charge.

And if you want to deploy your own website and attract users to it to try to monetize it, then we’re more than happy to work with you. We don’t charge anything up front for using it, all we really ask for is a cut of any referral income that is generated from the site you build and deploy. So that’s the model that we’ve had, that’s the model that we’ve been discussing since we originally announced Graphene months ago. If there are concerns about it, I guess now’s the time to express it and also to make recommendations on how to resolve the issues to make sure that all parties involved have financial incentive to contribute.
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #317 on: October 30, 2015, 01:23:57 pm »
I looked around, trying to find when these hangouts are taking place, and how to participate these days, but couldn't find it, could someone let me know?

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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #318 on: October 30, 2015, 01:41:27 pm »
When will we be able to create, modify, delete and even re-assign UIA's to someone in the gui?
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #319 on: October 30, 2015, 01:56:01 pm »
When will we be able to create, modify, delete and even re-assign UIA's to someone in the gui?

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here's a summary of the reply ...
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The GUI has a long list of things that need to be done including support for Worker Proposals and proposed transactions for multi-sig and 2FA so those are next 2 features to be added before any GUI updates for UIA's.
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #320 on: October 30, 2015, 02:26:02 pm »
When will we be able to create, modify, delete and even re-assign UIA's to someone in the gui?

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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #321 on: October 30, 2015, 11:17:45 pm »
I didn't hear any roll-calls for usernames this time for Brownie distribution. Are attendance Brownies still a thing?
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #322 on: November 03, 2015, 02:29:05 pm »
I didn't hear any roll-calls for usernames this time for Brownie distribution. Are attendance Brownies still a thing?

Yes. There was one but we have a list i plan to send brownies to once the tipbot is up and running.  It is a far more elegant solution than doing it by hand and altering spreadsheets.
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #323 on: November 04, 2015, 08:44:24 am »
When we will have a test network?

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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #324 on: November 13, 2015, 01:06:59 am »
Can Identabit or Bitshares' Graphene license ever be revoked?

For instance, CNX goes public and a new CEO decides to revoke the license.
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #325 on: November 13, 2015, 08:15:12 am »
Can Identabit or Bitshares' Graphene license ever be revoked?

For instance, CNX goes public and a new CEO decides to revoke the license.
They have the rights to do anything with their code.
But they cannot change the licensing of older versions of the code .. only newer releases

But I highly doubt that future releases will be more restrictive .. All they want is -- be able to pay their developers
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #326 on: November 17, 2015, 02:39:00 am »
What about the idea of to establish a BTS big shareholders’ club ?
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #327 on: November 19, 2015, 11:34:29 am »
When we will have a test network?

This wasn't asked last time, so I ask again.

When we will have a test network? I think it is quite important right now so that developers and users can try Bitshares for free. This would lower the pressure to lower the fees, because people wouldn't have to waste their BTS on testing.

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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #328 on: November 19, 2015, 12:27:19 pm »
you can easily setup your own testnet ..
http://docs.bitshares.eu/testnet/Public.html
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Re: Hangout Questions for Bytemaster (Due Friday @ 10:00am EST)
« Reply #329 on: November 19, 2015, 01:14:47 pm »
I didnt listen to the last hangout yet, so please correct me if these questions have been asked already.

Bond Markets seem like an important piece to bring in utility ans liquidity to BitShares. However Dan has mentioned in the past this might not be as simple to implement as we think. Could you give us a more detailed explanation on the obstacles we have to face to create bond markets? Do you have any idea on how to solve any of those problems? Are you planning on developing that feature any time soon? Youd probably have a big support from the community because of all the positive things it brings.

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