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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #90 on: June 08, 2015, 08:38:34 pm »
What kind of ID verification is required?
no ID verification is required to use BitShares ..

ID verification may be required to use "some" User-Issued assets ..
If there was ID verification, sending out free samples to attract people would be possible ..
that's the reason we now have the more sophisticated referral program to attract people instead
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #91 on: June 08, 2015, 08:44:13 pm »
Our user demographic would never spend money to try a new tech :/

It is really rather simple to finance things to get the funds.    Unfortunately, without required centralized ID verification there is no way to "give" samples away to new users.

Why would a person want to undergo an ID verification to try a demo of bitshares ?
Or do you mean  the company raising funds in large sums for this purpose ?

I mean it is a technical limitation of decentralized systems that without "proof of uniqueness" or "proof of work" the "free samples" given away will be sybil attacked and fail.   Bitcoin's referral program was proof of work... but now it has been abused.

What kind of ID verification is required?

Let's rephrase the question then,

what kind of "proof of uniqueness" is required?

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #92 on: June 08, 2015, 08:45:39 pm »
Let's rephrase the question then,

what kind of "proof of uniqueness" is required?
none ..

It just doesn't make sense to try to abuse the system by referring to your own newly created accounts .. because they do not produce income for you
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #93 on: June 08, 2015, 08:46:02 pm »
Are there any prints of the GUI? I'm very curious. A small, basic video, just messing around and showing the tabs or voting would be nice to share around
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #94 on: June 08, 2015, 09:00:00 pm »
What kind of ID verification is required?
no ID verification is required to use BitShares ..

ID verification may be required to use "some" User-Issued assets ..
If there was ID verification, sending out free samples to attract people would be possible ..
that's the reason we now have the more sophisticated referral program to attract people instead

Essentially proof of stake with subscription fees? 
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #95 on: June 08, 2015, 09:02:48 pm »
What kind of ID verification is required?
no ID verification is required to use BitShares ..

ID verification may be required to use "some" User-Issued assets ..
If there was ID verification, sending out free samples to attract people would be possible ..
that's the reason we now have the more sophisticated referral program to attract people instead

Essentially proof of stake with subscription fees?

You have two options to increase adoption:
Hand out free bitUSD to new users ... this requires ID verification to not get abused

or alternatively make it like BitShares 2.0 and redistribute tx fees ...
that way no ID verification is required to incentivize user adoption ..

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #96 on: June 08, 2015, 09:07:10 pm »
Are there any prints of the GUI? I'm very curious. A small, basic video, just messing around and showing the tabs or voting would be nice to share around

We're waiting on Cass to finish up his work on bitshares.org etc so he can start Cassifying stuff (he probably needs a break right now though cause he's been working 24/7 for a while I think..), which means the current wallet is more function than form so far, we'll take some screens once Cass has worked his magic I think.
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #97 on: June 08, 2015, 09:08:32 pm »
What kind of ID verification is required?
no ID verification is required to use BitShares ..

ID verification may be required to use "some" User-Issued assets ..
If there was ID verification, sending out free samples to attract people would be possible ..
that's the reason we now have the more sophisticated referral program to attract people instead

Essentially proof of stake with subscription fees?

You have two options to increase adoption:
Hand out free bitUSD to new users ... this requires ID verification to not get abused

or alternatively make it like BitShares 2.0 and redistribute tx fees ...
that way no ID verification is required to incentivize user adoption ..

Ok yeah. Transaction fee redistribution is very good.  There's also a subscription fee so I was wondering if that was part of proof of having stake too or just something additional. 
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #98 on: June 08, 2015, 09:10:59 pm »
There's also a subscription fee so I was wondering if that was part of proof of having stake too or just something additional.
not sure about the economical part here ... but extra features should require extra fee, no?
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #99 on: June 08, 2015, 09:20:21 pm »
I love that the new client will be an entirely broswer based wallet.  This will greatly reduce the barrier to entry.

At present, its very easy for me to have a bitcoin wallet at blockchain.org, or a dogecoin wallet at dogechain, or whatever.  But having a Bitshares wallet was very difficult, required me to update the client, took a long time to sync the blockchain, and hogged my computer resources when I ran it. 

This will be a MASSIVE upgrade to usability.

Source? And by this I hope you mean it runs on localhost and accessible over http!

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #100 on: June 08, 2015, 09:25:36 pm »
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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #101 on: June 08, 2015, 09:26:17 pm »
Also, it seems the new client is not the same codebase as 0.9.x.

Is TITAN also baked in the new codebase? Will we have privacy built-in by default?

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #102 on: June 08, 2015, 09:28:15 pm »
And finally, GOOD JOB guys, this is wonderful, a complete game changer. I can only hope the price stays low long enough to send a few thousands more before people catch up to this :)

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #103 on: June 08, 2015, 10:25:18 pm »
I'm speechless.  Bl00dy fantastic work guys.  It's awe inspiring.

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Re: Announcing BitShares 2.0
« Reply #104 on: June 08, 2015, 10:32:59 pm »
Absolutely awesome delivery :D. So much reading needed, this is just exciting as the first discovery ! Thank you !!
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