PSA: This is your weekly reminder to withdraw all coins from bter

[Methodise]

Sounds like, everyone including me should transfer their Qora etc. on Bter over to http://ccedk.com.

[38PTSWarrior]

Someone knows how to withdraw the snapshots?

We cant.  We have to hope Bter eventually honors them.

Thanks

[Tuck Fheman]

Week 13. Still no funds. No replies. All hope is lost. 

Still thankful they didn't decide to do this with the large deposits. They took the smallest one and for that I guess we're thankful.

Thanks for being bad crooks BTer! 

[Ander]

Someone knows how to withdraw the snapshots?

We cant.  We have to hope Bter eventually honors them.

[hadrian]

Glad to hear it!

[ESB]

Update: I rescanned the blockchain and the right balance appeared.

[38PTSWarrior]

Someone knows how to withdraw the snapshots?

[Tuck Fheman]

3 months and BTer still has not returned our 2 mio Qora. 

Several of us asked in different tickets what the address was that our funds resided in at BTer.

This was an attempt to get them to admit the address so that we could point out AGAIN that the address was forging with our funds in it.

We received no answer.

[mf-tzo]

Bye bye to bter.
I moved my last BTS and BTC to poloniex for lending, and I left my few namecoin and primecoin to bter, I'm gonna miss them.

hahahahaha..

[joele]

Bye bye to bter.
I moved my last BTS and BTC to poloniex for lending, and I left my few namecoin and primecoin to bter, I'm gonna miss them.

[Tuck Fheman]

BTer's like the friend you loan money to, but they haven't paid you back in a year.

Then all of a sudden you see them driving a new Porsche and wearing a Patek Philippe around town, so you say, "Hey brah, nice car and watch. BTW can you pay me back the tree fiddy you owe me?".

Then he replies with, "Oh sorry man, my wallet doesn't work ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ".

[xeroc]

He does have the private key xeroc.  I am assuming it is a gui error.  WIll the gui allow him to spend them even if they are not showing? 

If he was to transfer them to himself with the command line would that potentially fix any gui issue that was preventing them from showing up?

usually GUI issues can be fixed with "right-click"->"refresh" ..

He should check the result of "balance" in the console .. that one is solid!

[puppies]

He does have the private key xeroc.  I am assuming it is a gui error.  WIll the gui allow him to spend them even if they are not showing? 

If he was to transfer them to himself with the command line would that potentially fix any gui issue that was preventing them from showing up?

[xeroc]

@Xeroc if ESB was to transfer funds to himself in the terminal that might fix this right?  can someone help with the syntax?  I would like to get a second opinion before telling him to transfer with terminal since a typo could be risky.

not sure .. the question actually is:
Are you SURE you are MISSING your funds? because
a) the wallet has received the transaction correctly
b) the wallet found the balance ID correctly
c) the blockchain still has the funds in the address: BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP  (balanceid: BTSByLVZ6M9Azk8udZntdJqX4f6pKtpNL51M)
d) you can check if the PRIVATE key is available via (wallet_dump_private_key BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP)... my guess would be that you DO have the key

So .. what exactly makes you think you missed the deposit/withdrawal?
Type "balance" in the console and make EXTRA sure they are not part of your balance already!!

[puppies]

Maybe you have been tricked by the "balance" that is shown in the transaction history which is (unfortunatelly) not correct all the time ..
The "real balance" can be seen when you execute "balance" .. and, as your deposit has been decoded successfully, you should see these funds in "balance".

Alternatively you may want to run

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wallet_account_balance_ids <accountname>and search for the string "BTSByLVZ6M9Azk8udZntdJqX4f6pKtpNL51M" .. if it is there .. the client successfully found the deposit

You should be able to see your balance by typing balance in the terminal.

@Xeroc if ESB was to transfer funds to himself in the terminal that might fix this right?  can someone help with the syntax?  I would like to get a second opinion before telling him to transfer with terminal since a typo could be risky.

[ESB]

This is what I get:
>> wallet_verify_titan_deposit cf9cae13f51d5931a3acac647d5a4cf5cd8b2086

{
  "from": "btercom",
  "to": "esb",
  "amount": {
    "amount": 2474900000,
    "asset_id": 0
  },
  "memo": "from bter"
}

that should be good news.  I was worried that bter had sent them to the wrong account.

maybe try a

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wallet_account_list_public_keys esband look for an entry that contains
"native_address": "BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP"
The line above that will be your public key.
then try a

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wallet_dump_private_key BTSthekeythatyougotinthestepaboveDon't post the results of course, but just let me know if anything shows up.  your private key should start with a 5

Ok, I've done that and I did get the private key to show up. Now what do I do?  Thanks

[xeroc]

Maybe you have been tricked by the "balance" that is shown in the transaction history which is (unfortunatelly) not correct all the time ..
The "real balance" can be seen when you execute "balance" .. and, as your deposit has been decoded successfully, you should see these funds in "balance".

Alternatively you may want to run

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wallet_account_balance_ids <accountname>and search for the string "BTSByLVZ6M9Azk8udZntdJqX4f6pKtpNL51M" .. if it is there .. the client successfully found the deposit

[mint chocolate chip]

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rescan 3299618  1

Maybe try rescan from earlier: rescan 2500000

[puppies]

This is what I get:
>> wallet_verify_titan_deposit cf9cae13f51d5931a3acac647d5a4cf5cd8b2086

{
  "from": "btercom",
  "to": "esb",
  "amount": {
    "amount": 2474900000,
    "asset_id": 0
  },
  "memo": "from bter"
}

that should be good news.  I was worried that bter had sent them to the wrong account.

maybe try a

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wallet_account_list_public_keys esband look for an entry that contains
"native_address": "BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP"
The line above that will be your public key.
then try a

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wallet_dump_private_key BTSthekeythatyougotinthestepaboveDon't post the results of course, but just let me know if anything shows up.  your private key should start with a 5

[ESB]

This is what I get:
>> wallet_verify_titan_deposit cf9cae13f51d5931a3acac647d5a4cf5cd8b2086

{
  "from": "btercom",
  "to": "esb",
  "amount": {
    "amount": 2474900000,
    "asset_id": 0
  },
  "memo": "from bter"
}

[xeroc]

I tried rescanning. That didn't work. I've gone back to Bter to tell them I haven't received anything yet.  Can anyone explain why I might not have the bts in my account?

Try

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wallet_verify_titan_deposit cf9cae13f51d5931a3acac647d5a4cf5cd8b2086


[ESB]

I tried rescanning. That didn't work. I've gone back to Bter to tell them I haven't received anything yet.  Can anyone explain why I might not have the bts in my account?

[xeroc]

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rescan 3299618  1

[puppies]

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>> blockchain_list_address_balances BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP

[[
    "BTSByLVZ6M9Azk8udZntdJqX4f6pKtpNL51M",{
      "condition": {
        "asset_id": 0,
        "slate_id": 0,
        "type": "withdraw_signature_type",
        "data": {
          "owner": "BTSFDVKsKwcKV8nugJa1igpUZqDfbgyuAmKP",
          "memo": {
            "one_time_key": "BTS5rRiwtWuaVwMFZpEV4yyQcUagnKPaiyGaaGWQ49NAcUWE4GGMk",
            "encrypted_memo_data": "6db184b6474260bf772c077b9c73a2189c2394c76d062778d69f33bca69a4aa9e062be5d1b25ae2d6d7e7d19e146f46b0dd1bb6ce644205e0e87fede9f0f96d8"
          }
        }
      },
      "balance": 2474900000,
      "deposit_date": "2015-08-11T19:23:40",
      "last_update": "2015-08-11T19:23:40",
      "meta_data": null
    }
  ]
]

I have no idea how you can get them, but your theres your 25k bts

[Akado]

Here is the reply from Bter:

Aug 14, 09:34
Dear Sir,
http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=3299618
According to the block explorer, the transaction was sent successfully.
If you still fail to receive it, you may check if the receiving wallet syncs well.
Best
BTER.COM

My account name is "esb". How do I check what account number that is?  I think maybe they sent it to the wrong address.

Your account ID is 23115 https://bitsharesblocks.com/accounts?query=esb but what you may want to know is the address?

[ESB]

Here is the reply from Bter:

Aug 14, 09:34
Dear Sir,
http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/blocks/block?id=3299618
According to the block explorer, the transaction was sent successfully.
If you still fail to receive it, you may check if the receiving wallet syncs well.
Best
BTER.COM

My account name is "esb". How do I check what account number that is?  I think maybe they sent it to the wrong address.

[ESB]

Thanks for the replies. I've contacted Bter and they are currently looking into it.  I'll keep everyone posted.  Thanks.

[Tuck Fheman]

May you have better luck than us (9 weeks, no funds).

[xeroc]

did BTER give you a transaction id?

[Ander]

I just tried to transfer 25k bts from bter yesterday but nothing has shown yet in my account. What should be the next step I take.  Thanks

1) Are you sure you have the BTS blockchain synced correctly?

2) Did you specify the correct username in the withdrawal at bter, to get your funds sent to?

3) Contact Bter support and ask them for help.

[ESB]

I just tried to transfer 25k bts from bter yesterday but nothing has shown yet in my account. What should be the next step I take.  Thanks

[hadrian]

Any BTS 'lost' on any exchange (be it through a hack, fractional reserves or whatever) doesn't only hurt the depositor.
Imagine if loads of BTS went 'missing'... Oh deary me, what a catastrophe!

In the case of a theft, arguments would ensue over rollbacks and all that shit. Very bad problems. Much debate. Much harm.
If it becomes general knowledge that a large percentage of a cryptocurrency is in the hands of 'bad guys', it really puts people off.
Very bad P.R. problems follow. People don't want to get involved with something if they know 'baddies' own 10% of the market cap, do they?

We don't want to have to deal with something like this... but that's obvious.

[sudo]

 withdraw right now

[Ander]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Thats part of the scam.

When you send anything to them you get 1% bonus.  When you withdraw you lose 1%.  The purpose is to make you feel like you want to keep coins there and not withdraw them.

[fav]

  you can't trust bter.

[openledger]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

What is 1% against loosing 100%. Do you know that we offer Qora on CCEDK, was just wondering since you suggested to move them to Polo and not CCEDK. We could use all the support to make Qora a strong solid currency mainly traded on CCEDK, right now centralized but pretty you will be able to do all your trading inside your wallet, and we are the only one making Qora known to the rest of the world, so why not.

I have some qora, I'll move it from poloniex to ccedk today ronny....

 

[Ben Mason]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

What is 1% against loosing 100%. Do you know that we offer Qora on CCEDK, was just wondering since you suggested to move them to Polo and not CCEDK. We could use all the support to make Qora a strong solid currency mainly traded on CCEDK, right now centralized but pretty you will be able to do all your trading inside your wallet, and we are the only one making Qora known to the rest of the world, so why not.

I have some qora, I'll move it from poloniex to ccedk today ronny....

[openledger]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

What is 1% against loosing 100%. Do you know that we offer Qora on CCEDK, was just wondering since you suggested to move them to Polo and not CCEDK. We could use all the support to make Qora a strong solid currency mainly traded on CCEDK, right now centralized but pretty soon will be able to do all your trading inside your wallet, and we are the only one making Qora known to the rest of the world, so why not.

[mint chocolate chip]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

I'd lose the 1% and put them in a private wallet. You were given 1% on whatever you deposited so it's a wash.

Also, bter just paid out another slice of BTC_B for those keeping score at home.

I didn't know that I had 1% on my deposit, I just used Bter once to buy QORA. It makes it less unpleasant to withdraw and pay the fee.
Thanks for the answers

No 1% on btc deposits, just 1% on bts deposits.

[EstefanTT]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

I'd lose the 1% and put them in a private wallet. You were given 1% on whatever you deposited so it's a wash.

Also, bter just paid out another slice of BTC_B for those keeping score at home.

I didn't know that I had 1% on my deposit, I just used Bter once to buy QORA. It makes it less unpleasant to withdraw and pay the fee.
Thanks for the answers

[sudo]

mtgox will never be the last one

[Riverhead]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

I'd lose the 1% and put them in a private wallet. You were given 1% on whatever you deposited so it's a wash.

Also, bter just paid out another slice of BTC_B for those keeping score at home.

[EstefanTT]

I have several millions QORA over there but I just saw that I lose 1% withdrawing.

Is it worthy to move them in Poloniex or in a wallet and lose the % ? I plan on keeping them for a while. Their project seem back on tracks.

[alt]

If you havent yet, withdraw all coins from bter.  BTS withdrawal is currently enabled, so you should do this ASAP! 

At some point in the future if it is revealed that bter was running a fractional reserve in BTS and many other coins, and they don't have enough to let everyone withdraw, I will bump this thread and say I told you so.  Withdraw any coins you have there, not just BTS.

I hope none of our core community members get hurt by that!

the same to btc38.com, I told you all.

[sudo]

I agree
left bts on  any  centralized exchange  too long is dangerous

[Ander]

If you havent yet, withdraw all coins from bter.  BTS withdrawal is currently enabled, so you should do this ASAP! 

At some point in the future if it is revealed that bter was running a fractional reserve in BTS and many other coins, and they don't have enough to let everyone withdraw, I will bump this thread and say I told you so.  Withdraw any coins you have there, not just BTS.

I hope none of our core community members get hurt by that!