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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2015, 06:32:50 pm »
I'm unable to withdraw the pool funds due to a bug

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ithdraw_vesting 1.13.235 8749 BTS true
withdraw_vesting 1.13.235 8749 BTS true
1513039ms th_a       wallet.cpp:1838               sign_transaction     ] Caught exception while broadcasting tx 7c5e1918b7db447bcf8b42906860471ddd798b8f:  0 exception: unspecified
13 St12domain_error: divide by zero

I've reported this to bytemaster - https://github.com/cryptonomex/graphene/issues/390

I've funded a new account dediced to poolfunding with my own funds for the time being and have funded the poolfund as described in the proposal

4000 BTS USD
4000 BTS CNY
2000 BTS EUR
2000 BTS GOLD
2000 BTS SILVER

As seen here: https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/account/mindphlux.poolfund/overview

I will do the same tomororw, hopefully with the worker's fees.

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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2015, 06:53:35 pm »
There's no gui support yet.

ok then we should work in this to get it into asap IMO .. this will drive more people into!

Very basic worker proposals list/schedule can be found at the bottom of this page: http://cryptofresh.com/

that's great, could there be a payline put in there? (so people know what is being funded and at what level?)

That's the "Daily pay" column right? I'm still trying to decipher the API.. your "Debian/Ubuntu-based PPA" proposal is 3966 BTS per day correct?

First off: that's a great site, thanks for doing it

Regarding payline: It's a little more complicated.
There is a daily worker budget of 500,000. Every maintenance period, worker votes are tallied and workers are ranked in order of votes for minus against. The system then pays each worker in order of rank until the daily budget is exhausted.

To find the current worker pay, it's the "worker_budget_per_day" global property:
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unlocked >>> get_global_properties
{SNIP}
    "witness_pay_per_block": 150000,
    "worker_budget_per_day": "50000000000",
    "max_predicate_opcode": 1,
{SNIP}

Now you can
look at the current proposals in order of most to least votes (as of this moment) and their daily pay:
1) 1.14.4 (10,000 BTS/day)
2) 1.14.1 (0.1 BTS/day)
3) 1.14.0 (400,000 BTS/day)
4) 1.14.6 (3,966 BTS/day)

So that means that each of the proposals should get funded since the total (413,966.1) is < 500,000
Now imagine there were 2 more 100k proposals with less votes than (4). The new order is:
1) 1.14.4 (10,000 BTS/day)
2) 1.14.1 (0.1 BTS/day)
3) 1.14.0 (400,000 BTS/day)
4) 1.14.6 (3,966 BTS/day)
5) (100,000 BTS/day)
6) (100,000 BTS/day)

That means that 1-4 get funded, 5 gets 86033.9, and 6 gets 0.

So, on your website you can list all proposals pending in order of votes, but indicate on their that 1-4 are funded, 5 is partial, and 6+ is not funded (like you do with active witnesses).
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2015, 07:31:33 pm »
There's no gui support yet.

ok then we should work in this to get it into asap IMO .. this will drive more people into!

Very basic worker proposals list/schedule can be found at the bottom of this page: http://cryptofresh.com/

that's great, could there be a payline put in there? (so people know what is being funded and at what level?)

That's the "Daily pay" column right? I'm still trying to decipher the API.. your "Debian/Ubuntu-based PPA" proposal is 3966 BTS per day correct?

First off: that's a great site, thanks for doing it

Regarding payline: It's a little more complicated.
There is a daily worker budget of 500,000. Every maintenance period, worker votes are tallied and workers are ranked in order of votes for minus against. The system then pays each worker in order of rank until the daily budget is exhausted.

To find the current worker pay, it's the "worker_budget_per_day" global property:
Code: [Select]
unlocked >>> get_global_properties
{SNIP}
    "witness_pay_per_block": 150000,
    "worker_budget_per_day": "50000000000",
    "max_predicate_opcode": 1,
{SNIP}

Now you can
look at the current proposals in order of most to least votes (as of this moment) and their daily pay:
1) 1.14.4 (10,000 BTS/day)
2) 1.14.1 (0.1 BTS/day)
3) 1.14.0 (400,000 BTS/day)
4) 1.14.6 (3,966 BTS/day)

So that means that each of the proposals should get funded since the total (413,966.1) is < 500,000
Now imagine there were 2 more 100k proposals with less votes than (4). The new order is:
1) 1.14.4 (10,000 BTS/day)
2) 1.14.1 (0.1 BTS/day)
3) 1.14.0 (400,000 BTS/day)
4) 1.14.6 (3,966 BTS/day)
5) (100,000 BTS/day)
6) (100,000 BTS/day)

That means that 1-4 get funded, 5 gets 86033.9, and 6 gets 0.

So, on your website you can list all proposals pending in order of votes, but indicate on their that 1-4 are funded, 5 is partial, and 6+ is not funded (like you do with active witnesses).

Super useful.. thank you! I've got the daily funding logic in place now :)
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2015, 08:20:50 pm »
Super useful.. thank you! I've got the daily funding logic in place now :)

Excellent! You have the best way of visualizing worker proposals in the whole world as of now, literally.
If you want to improve the display, here are some other hints:
1) Worker objects never expire. Also some workers are not valid yet. You probably should filter out your worker list to only show active and valid ones.
2) However, it is important that upcoming proposals get visibility. Perhaps a separate table of "pending proposals" ranked in order of votes for proposals which have not started yet.
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2015, 09:13:38 pm »
can you guys please discuss in a new thread? this one is for asset pool fee funding updates
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2015, 11:31:01 pm »
No prob @fav..

Super useful.. thank you! I've got the daily funding logic in place now :)

Excellent! You have the best way of visualizing worker proposals in the whole world as of now, literally.
If you want to improve the display, here are some other hints:
1) Worker objects never expire. Also some workers are not valid yet. You probably should filter out your worker list to only show active and valid ones.
2) However, it is important that upcoming proposals get visibility. Perhaps a separate table of "pending proposals" ranked in order of votes for proposals which have not started yet.

I replied here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19507.msg250666.html#msg250666
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2015, 09:06:07 pm »
Dear stakeholders,

I have funded the asset pool funds today, for the second time.

We're funding a total of 14000 BTS per day (4000 CNY, 4000 USD, 2000 EUR, 2000 GOLD, 2000 SILVER), but unfortnatually I made a mistake in my calculation and set the daily payrate to only 10000 BTS. As a result, the worker funds will not last until the projected end. Also this proposal was voted in 6 days after the initial start date, so that further decreases available funds. The funds are projected to last until November 12. I have uploaded a file for you to review here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_so41Ogm44a871ZVjIWyZXhQptGi7i0dNFvfeyY8gng/edit#gid=0

I'm in the process of writing a script that automatically fills the pools, which should be ready by the weekend. Until then I will fill the pool manually.

Thank you,

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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2015, 09:42:02 pm »
Dear stakeholders,

I have funded the asset pool funds today, for the second time.

We're funding a total of 14000 BTS per day (4000 CNY, 4000 USD, 2000 EUR, 2000 GOLD, 2000 SILVER), but unfortnatually I made a mistake in my calculation and set the daily payrate to only 10000 BTS. As a result, the worker funds will not last until the projected end. Also this proposal was voted in 6 days after the initial start date, so that further decreases available funds. The funds are projected to last until November 12. I have uploaded a file for you to review here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_so41Ogm44a871ZVjIWyZXhQptGi7i0dNFvfeyY8gng/edit#gid=0

I'm in the process of writing a script that automatically fills the pools, which should be ready by the weekend. Until then I will fill the pool manually.

Thank you,

Best regards
mindphlux

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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2015, 06:49:05 am »
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« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2015, 07:06:10 am »
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2015, 04:46:54 pm »
I updated the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_so41Ogm44a871ZVjIWyZXhQptGi7i0dNFvfeyY8gng/edit#gid=0

I also wrote a script to automate the daily funding. I'll tidy it up over the weekend and then release on github.
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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2015, 05:13:37 pm »
I updated the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_so41Ogm44a871ZVjIWyZXhQptGi7i0dNFvfeyY8gng/edit#gid=0

I also wrote a script to automate the daily funding. I'll tidy it up over the weekend and then release on github.

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Re: Worker Proposal - Asset pool fee funding
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2015, 09:15:19 am »
Thanks for open sourceing it!
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« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2015, 09:19:31 am »
Thanks for open sourceing it!

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