A referral upgraded to LT, no cashback vesting for me.

[bytemaster]

Everyone will be made whole with the proposed hard fork, the only consequence is a slightly delay in claiming your vesting balances between now and when the fix can be put in place.

[maqifrnswa]

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all
future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.  We are doing
an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those
accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely
affected.

That is very unfortunate .. especially for @fav. Anyway, to me this means that
the referral party can no begin, doesn't it?

Was it all referred accounts up to this point?

I think it is for referral accounts made through openledger. if you referred someone manually (CLI), I don't think this is an issue.

[jakub]

I'm not sure if this fix introduced another problem, but please see the membership tab for any newly created accounts by openledger-reg.

I'm seeing crazy values in the fee allocation table, like -2950% for registrar and 3000% for affiliate referrer. What is going on?

This will be fixed in today's GUI release.

@valzav , is there a dedicated forum thread where new GUI releases are announced?
If not, I think there should be one.

I've noticed that https://bitshares.org/wallet/ is already upgraded and I wanted to give some feedback but I don't know where to post it.

[valzav]

I'm not sure if this fix introduced another problem, but please see the membership tab for any newly created accounts by openledger-reg.

I'm seeing crazy values in the fee allocation table, like -2950% for registrar and 3000% for affiliate referrer. What is going on?

This will be fixed in today's GUI release.

[mint chocolate chip]

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all
future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.  We are doing
an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those
accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely
affected.

That is very unfortunate .. especially for @fav. Anyway, to me this means that
the referral party can no begin, doesn't it?

Was it all referred accounts up to this point?

[fav]

I'm not sure if this fix introduced another problem, but please see the membership tab for any newly created accounts by openledger-reg.

I'm seeing crazy values in the fee allocation table, like -2950% for registrar and 3000% for affiliate referrer. What is going on?

not resolved I'd say

@bytemaster @xeroc

[gn1]

I'm not sure if this fix introduced another problem, but please see the membership tab for any newly created accounts by openledger-reg.

I'm seeing crazy values in the fee allocation table, like -2950% for registrar and 3000% for affiliate referrer. What is going on?

[xeroc]

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all
future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.  We are doing
an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those
accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely
affected.

That is very unfortunate .. especially for @fav. Anyway, to me this means that
the referral party can no begin, doesn't it?

[fav]

Ben has done a thorough analysis of what has happened and we have identified the problem as being two bugs that "hid" each other.

1.  The faucet was misconfigured (forgot to scale the percentage by 100)
2.  The GUI was misinterpreting the data (forgot to divide the percentage by 100)

The end result is that Open Ledger has been receiving 99.4% and the affiliate has been receiving .6%. 

We have taken steps to correct the faucet for all future accounts.  We are creating a tool to calculate the amount OL owes the various parties and will transfer the missing funds to them.

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.  We are doing an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely affected.

Once again, we apologize for the mistakes.  The good news is this issue was not a blockchain level issue.

thanks for the reaction.

[Tuck Fheman]

The end result is that Open Ledger has been receiving 99.4% and the affiliate has been receiving .6%. 

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.

 

We are doing an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely affected.

 

[donkeypong]

Kudos to you for figuring it out swiftly. I'm not pleased with the commitee's proposed fee structure (which does not fully incentivize people to refer other users), but in truth, we should all be referring people to BitShares anyway. The more people use this, the better for all of us.

[bytemaster]

Ben has done a thorough analysis of what has happened and we have identified the problem as being two bugs that "hid" each other.

1.  The faucet was misconfigured (forgot to scale the percentage by 100)
2.  The GUI was misinterpreting the data (forgot to divide the percentage by 100)

The end result is that Open Ledger has been receiving 99.4% and the affiliate has been receiving .6%. 

We have taken steps to correct the faucet for all future accounts.  We are creating a tool to calculate the amount OL owes the various parties and will transfer the missing funds to them.

Accounts that have been referred and misconfigured cannot be corrected, all future referral fees from those accounts will be stuck at 0.6%.  We are doing an audit of what the potential losses are of future referral income from those accounts and will come up with a fair resolution for those who are adversely affected.

Once again, we apologize for the mistakes.  The good news is this issue was not a blockchain level issue. 

[unreadPostsSinceLastVisit]

Cnx is the sole developer of bts (and holding copyrights).  Im doing business with them. Especially in this case since its based on their work/responsibility

wrong again .. they develop Graphene which has been licensed to BitShares under some conditions.
Hence, dealing with BitShares does NOT imply dealing with CNX

They're right. The way it was structured was made abundantly clear during the ensuing panic after CNX was announced.

A bug could wipe out half the BTS in existence and CNX wouldn't be responsible for it.

Luckily, if something like that were to happen BitShares the DAC could vote to restore all the funds from the bug retroactively.

[bytemaster]

My apologies for not seeing this thread earlier. If cashback is not being calculated properly then we can fix it retroactively in all likelihood.

I will review the posts above and attempt to determine if something is actually wrong, explain what is happening and why, and if necessary we will put out a bug fix hardfork at no cost.

[tonyk]

I do not think I will vote for paying workers if this means current issues are totally disregarded.

[Tuck Fheman]

'Pride comes before the fall'

In America, Pride comes after 2 Broke Girls re-runs. 

[38PTSWarrior]

'Pride comes before the fall'

[xeroc]

Cnx is the sole developer of bts (and holding copyrights).  Im doing business with them. Especially in this case since its based on their work/responsibility

wrong again .. they develop Graphene which has been licensed to BitShares under some conditions.
Hence, dealing with BitShares does NOT imply dealing with CNX

[fav]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

is "cryptonomex" your nickname ?   

Sorry for not being clear: cryptonomex is the company I'm doing business with

Actually, you are not ... you are doing business with BitShares. CNX is contractor of BitShares (once they have their workers) .. they don't run BTS

Cnx is the sole developer of bts (and holding copyrights).  Im doing business with them. Especially in this case since its based on their work/responsibility

[xeroc]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

is "cryptonomex" your nickname ?   

Sorry for not being clear: cryptonomex is the company I'm doing business with

Actually, you are not ... you are doing business with BitShares. CNX is contractor of BitShares (once they have their workers) .. they don't run BTS

[fav]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

is "cryptonomex" your nickname ?   

Sorry for not being clear: cryptonomex is the company I'm doing business with

[ebit]

grave concern

[liondani]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

is "cryptonomex" your nickname ?   

[fav]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

The amount you see is NOT written on the database .. it is purely calculated from the transactions .. (at least that's what I assume)
So in the end ... you will get your money even though the client doesn't show it that way ..

Hm? Vesting balances equals half of lt upgrade cashback. It's displayed correctly, just with a wrong factor imo

[xeroc]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

The amount you see is NOT written on the database .. it is purely calculated from the transactions .. (at least that's what I assume)
So in the end ... you will get your money even though the client doesn't show it that way ..

[fav]

Update another lifetime upgrade, I'm now missing 18000 bitshares in vesting. Starting to get expensive for cryptonomex.

[Tuck Fheman]

Sell the servitude, buy the freedom!

lulz

[tonyk]

one of my refs http://cryptofresh.com/u/first-personal upgraded to lifetime, since I offer 50% cashback.

so I should see 60% (12k) vesting, which did not happen. checked cli.

what's wrong, and am I losing money? @bytemaster

Code: [Select]

[{
    "id": "1.13.52",
    "owner": "1.2.21106",
    "balance": {
      "amount": 687162463,
      "asset_id": "1.3.0"
    },
    "policy": [
      1,{
        "vesting_seconds": 7776000,
        "start_claim": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
        "coin_seconds_earned": "631119312288000",
        "coin_seconds_earned_last_update": "2015-11-13T02:22:36"
      }
edit: I'm going to pay my referral 10k cashback as per agreement. I expect 10k BTS to fav from Cryptonomex, should this be a bug/number glitch.

LTM: 2
Missing BTS: 12k

I think you have been taxed the most ridiculous fee on the face of the earth.!


10,000 BTS Vesting FEE - "For the privilege of waiting for your money!" 




* @fav I will send you 2,000 back once this is confirmed. But it likely will cause I am missing 2K as well(for one vesting), and you 4k for 2 vesting balances, I think.

[fav]

5 days no answer

the fact that you have not received any answer for that is indeed a bit disturbing.. We should know if the referral does work or if we should hold our horses..

As this already turned into non technical thread, I should mention something not clear from this discussion. - fav already paid me the 10K BTS cashback [I told him to wait until this issue is cleared, but he did anyway.]

I just can't wait to hand over 50 grand for CNX's next worker proposals!

eagerly here, as well.
+ 1

I stay true to my words. That's how I do business

[fav]

5 days no answer

the fact that you have not received any answer for that is indeed a bit disturbing.. We should know if the referral does work or if we should hold our horses..

It's working, but not at full force

[btstip]

Hey Tuck Fheman, here are the results of your tips...

• fav: has been credited 100 BTS

Curious about BtsTip? Visit us at http://btstip.io and start tipping BTS on https://bitsharestalk.org/ today!

Source: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,19961.msg257870/topicseen.html#msg257870

Created by hybridd

[Tuck Fheman]

fav already paid me the 10K BTS cashback [I told him to wait until this issue is cleared, but he did anyway.]

 

#btstip "fav" 100 BTS

[tonyk]

5 days no answer

the fact that you have not received any answer for that is indeed a bit disturbing.. We should know if the referral does work or if we should hold our horses..

As this already turned into non technical thread, I should mention something not clear from this discussion. - fav already paid me the 10K BTS cashback [I told him to wait until this issue is cleared, but he did anyway.]

I just can't wait to hand over 50 grand for CNX's next worker proposals!

eagerly here, as well.
+ 1

[lil_jay890]

I just can't wait to hand over 50 grand for CNX's next worker proposals!

[mf-tzo]

5 days no answer

the fact that you have not received any answer for that is indeed a bit disturbing.. We should know if the referral does work or if we should hold our horses..

[fav]

5 days no answer

[Tuck Fheman]

I lost 750K...and BM called it "smooth sailing with just a few people losing money."

Sorry to hear that, I had no idea, but it explains a lot.   

You're very calm, cool and collected about it.

[donkeypong]

I'm getting ready to go full steam ahead on referrals, thinking that the GUI will be in pretty good shape in the next week or two, but it looks like the referral system still is not fully functioning?

[tonyk]

@bytemaster @Stan anyone home?

Apparently not!

But you should get used to it...
when an issue arises and one of the people losing money is called tonyk....the issue drops a lot in priority....actually such issues are somewhat desirable!

12k???
 I lost 750K...and BM called it "smooth sailing with just a few people losing money."

PS
and then, the good old fuzzy asked us to post something for 50 brownie(s).pts a pop. What a joke!

[fav]

@bytemaster @Stan anyone home?

[Tuck Fheman]

@bytemaster CNX owes me 12k bts now.

 

[fav]

@bytemaster CNX owes me 12k bts now.

[fav]

Update: http://cryptofresh.com/u/bts-er1
Another lt upgrade. I'm now missing 12k bts

[tonyk]

after some discussions on telegram

looks like I vest 6k instead of 12k which means they forgot to adjust some numbers after the upgrade cost change from 10k to 20k

@bytemaster can you confirm?

this does not explain the issues I have with the same account though.

[fav]

after some discussions on telegram

looks like I vest 6k instead of 12k which means they forgot to adjust some numbers after the upgrade cost change from 10k to 20k

@bytemaster can you confirm?

[tonyk]

I do not know if I should open a different topic for this but the next transaction after upgrading to LM was to create an asset. Even though it is a 5000 BTS transaction fee - the whole vesting balance I see is only slightly more than 2000 BTS.[The difference probably due to other transactions of mine.

account: first-personal


PS
Also Lifetime fees paid is incorrect

http://cryptofresh.com/u/first-personal

Actually paid:
20,000 LM fee
5,000 asset creation
several small fees

The total reported : 22,540

[fav]

if they do not vest(or show at all for that matter), I do not expect any payment. For that part no worries, fav

but yee, Why this does not show? It is past the 1h vesting period.

it's fine, you get compensated, and so will I.

[tonyk]

if they do not vest(or show at all for that matter), I do not expect any payment. For that part no worries, fav

but yee, Why this does not show? It is past the 1h vesting period, so this argument is gone.


I do hope it is GUI not ready for real life...as in not ready for anybody actually buying LM after being referred by someone.

LOL

[fav]

one of my refs http://cryptofresh.com/u/first-personal upgraded to lifetime, since I offer 50% cashback.

so I should see 60% (12k) vesting, which did not happen. checked cli.

what's wrong, and am I losing money? @bytemaster

Code: [Select]

[{
    "id": "1.13.52",
    "owner": "1.2.21106",
    "balance": {
      "amount": 687162463,
      "asset_id": "1.3.0"
    },
    "policy": [
      1,{
        "vesting_seconds": 7776000,
        "start_claim": "1970-01-01T00:00:00",
        "coin_seconds_earned": "631119312288000",
        "coin_seconds_earned_last_update": "2015-11-13T02:22:36"
      }
edit: I'm going to pay my referral 10k cashback as per agreement. I expect 10k BTS to fav from Cryptonomex, should this be a bug/number glitch.

LTM: 3
Missing BTS: 18k