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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #225 on: February 16, 2016, 11:19:30 pm »
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It would be great to have a generous allocation for the referral program and wanted your vote and feedback.  The referral program currently gives 20% to the network and 30% to lifetime members.   We get to decide the remaining 50% between referrers (annual/lifetime members) and our faucet/registrar.   For example we can have 10% of referral revenue go to the faucet, then 40% will go to annual/lifetime members, an additional 30% would go to the lifetime member, and 20% would go to the network.   

It would be great to have everyone one of us and our supporters well-rewarded for spreading the word!  Here are the allocation options to vote on:

A) 20% faucet / 30% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
B) 10% faucet / 40% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
C) 5% faucet / 45% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
D) 0% faucet / 50% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
E) Other, please explain

Not sure if I understand correctly the difference between
"faucet", "annual/lifetime member" and "lifetime". The faucet is usually
called "registrar" because it pays the registration fee. One of the
other both is usually called "Lifetime Referrer" and the other is called
Affiliate Referrer.

If
 - "annual/lifetime member" = affiliate referrer"
 - "lifetime" = Lifetime referer
then I vote for option "B".
So I guess you really know what is "Lifetime referrer"?  8)
It's very confusable imo.
Basically,
* if you're a lifetime member and you referred a new user, you're the lifetime referrer of the new user;
* if you're a annual subscriber and you referred a new user, your lifetime referrer will be the lifetime referrer of the new user.
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #226 on: February 17, 2016, 01:07:13 am »
[member=120]xeroc[/member] would you suggest just having a git fork that includes the changes to the wallet files?  Is there a way to have a cryptographic signature that could be checked by the end user?

[member=120]xeroc[/member]  [member=9301]puppies[/member]  I gave it a try and committed the UI changes here: https://github.com/merivercap/bitshares-2-ui
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #227 on: February 17, 2016, 01:19:44 am »
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It would be great to have a generous allocation for the referral program and wanted your vote and feedback.  The referral program currently gives 20% to the network and 30% to lifetime members.   We get to decide the remaining 50% between referrers (annual/lifetime members) and our faucet/registrar.   For example we can have 10% of referral revenue go to the faucet, then 40% will go to annual/lifetime members, an additional 30% would go to the lifetime member, and 20% would go to the network.   

It would be great to have everyone one of us and our supporters well-rewarded for spreading the word!  Here are the allocation options to vote on:

A) 20% faucet / 30% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
B) 10% faucet / 40% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
C) 5% faucet / 45% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
D) 0% faucet / 50% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
E) Other, please explain

Not sure if I understand correctly the difference between
"faucet", "annual/lifetime member" and "lifetime". The faucet is usually
called "registrar" because it pays the registration fee. One of the
other both is usually called "Lifetime Referrer" and the other is called
Affiliate Referrer.

If
 - "annual/lifetime member" = affiliate referrer"
 - "lifetime" = Lifetime referer
then I vote for option "B".
So I guess you really know what is "Lifetime referrer"?  8)
It's very confusable imo.
Basically,
* if you're a lifetime member and you referred a new user, you're the lifetime referrer of the new user;
* if you're a annual subscriber and you referred a new user, your lifetime referrer will be the lifetime referrer of the new user.

Yes I was confused before.  Yes what you describe is my current understanding.
Please feel free to vote for an allocation.  Thanks! 
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #228 on: February 17, 2016, 07:51:04 pm »
I think option b would probably be best.
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #229 on: February 18, 2016, 03:46:42 am »
Hey all.

Hope all is well.  Sorry for the lack of updates.  We have been a bit delayed with finishing the initial version of the simple mobile app, but we are making progress so we'll let you all know when we get a better estimate of when we will have it out for testing.

Anyways I wanted to get a BitCash Founder's Club vote on our faucet allocation.  We have a faucet set up at: https://bts.bitcash.org
Thanks  so much [member=9301]puppies[/member] for helping make this happen!

Note: We don't plan to open the faucet up for new accounts yet, but feel free to import keys if you want to use the wallet.  It's the same as OL just with different colors.

It would be great to have a generous allocation for the referral program and wanted your vote and feedback.  The referral program currently gives 20% to the network and 30% to lifetime members.   We get to decide the remaining 50% between referrers (annual/lifetime members) and our faucet/registrar.   For example we can have 10% of referral revenue go to the faucet, then 40% will go to annual/lifetime members, an additional 30% would go to the lifetime member, and 20% would go to the network.   

It would be great to have everyone one of us and our supporters well-rewarded for spreading the word!  Here are the allocation options to vote on:

A) 20% faucet / 30% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
B) 10% faucet / 40% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
C) 5% faucet / 45% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
D) 0% faucet / 50% annual/lifetime member / 30% lifetime / 20% network
E) Other, please explain

I don't mind having 0% for the faucet, but in general our faucet has to manage spam and there is a possibility that people might create lifetime member farms that create many membership accounts so it may be safer to allocate some referral revenue to the faucet to prevent abuse.  Right now it takes about 95 BTS to open new accounts, 4,000 BTS for an annual membership, 20,000 BTS for a lifetime membership. Allocating 5% for the faucet will give it 200 BTS if a referral upgrades to an annual membership, enough to cover two account creations.

We'll keep the vote open for two weeks? 
Please vote and let me know what you guys think.... thanks!
I vote for B should we import our bitshares2.0 wallet just wondering

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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #230 on: February 18, 2016, 04:17:16 pm »
[member=120]xeroc[/member] would you suggest just having a git fork that includes the changes to the wallet files?  Is there a way to have a cryptographic signature that could be checked by the end user?

[member=120]xeroc[/member]  [member=9301]puppies[/member]  I gave it a try and committed the UI changes here: https://github.com/merivercap/bitshares-2-ui
Thanks!
I think blockchain.info has a technique to at least verify that the deliverd js files match a checksum/hash
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #231 on: February 19, 2016, 01:32:54 am »
I already have 2 dead bitshares wallets app on my Iphone. Are you a competitor with [member=30868]kenCode[/member] APP, or are you working together?
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #232 on: February 19, 2016, 02:10:55 am »
I already have 2 dead bitshares wallets app on my phone. Are you a competitor with [member=30868]kenCode[/member] APP, or are you working together?

Which wallet apps are these?  Could it be that your current wallet apps on your phone are just delayed in development?   Anyways I understand your concern and frustration, but startups are not easy or always successful so hopefully you can continue to support us all despite any setbacks.   

We're not currently working with kenCode, but I think the more products there are out there the merrier.   Every business has its own team, product, business model, target market etc. and it's great that consumers like us have options.  The market is huge so there's reason to be optimistic in general.   
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #233 on: February 19, 2016, 02:13:22 am »
[member=120]xeroc[/member] would you suggest just having a git fork that includes the changes to the wallet files?  Is there a way to have a cryptographic signature that could be checked by the end user?

[member=120]xeroc[/member]  [member=9301]puppies[/member]  I gave it a try and committed the UI changes here: https://github.com/merivercap/bitshares-2-ui
Thanks!
I think blockchain.info has a technique to at least verify that the deliverd js files match a checksum/hash

That seems like a good idea.
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #234 on: February 19, 2016, 02:20:27 am »
I think option b would probably be best.

Thanks for the vote!

I vote for B should we import our bitshares2.0 wallet just wondering

Thanks for the vote! 

It's up to you if you want to import your accounts.  It's not necessary for the referral program because as long as you have an account on Bitshares it should work the same.  If you want to use our faucet wallet as an alternative or backup that's fine.   You can always create a new account yourself and import those keys to the new account to try it out and see if you like it. 
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #235 on: February 19, 2016, 11:14:19 pm »
I already have 2 dead bitshares wallets app on my phone. Are you a competitor with [member=30868]kenCode[/member] APP, or are you working together?

Which wallet apps are these?  Could it be that your current wallet apps on your phone are just delayed in development?   Anyways I understand your concern and frustration, but startups are not easy or always successful so hopefully you can continue to support us all despite any setbacks.   

We're not currently working with kenCode, but I think the more products there are out there the merrier.   Every business has its own team, product, business model, target market etc. and it's great that consumers like us have options.  The market is huge so there's reason to be optimistic in general.

Yes, delayed is the right word.
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #236 on: February 26, 2016, 01:26:23 am »
I also think option 'B' sounds entirely reasonable. :)  Glad to hear things are still proceeding.  Let us know how else we can help!

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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #237 on: February 26, 2016, 01:48:05 am »
I'm with the crowd on this one. Option B.

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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #238 on: April 12, 2016, 09:13:26 am »
Hello BitCash Founder's Club members! 

We have our alpha version of the simple mobile web wallet up at: https://wallet.bitcash.org

It only works on Chrome for mobile.  (Hopefully we can eventually get the graphene-ui code to work on iPhone/Safari)  We'll eventually use React Native for iOS/Android, but having a mobile-centric web app is a good start.   You can go to the url and  'Add to Homescreen' and it will act like a native app.  Otherwise you can just use your laptop/desktop to test as well.   It's a very simple starter wallet for mainstream users.   I don't imagine people will put over $100 in it in the long-run.  It's designed to be a 'money-clip' wallet for spending cash. 

Anyways if you guys can check it out and give feedback that would be great.  I'll send you guys a small amount of bitcash to send back and forth to test if you give me your user ID... Thanks! 
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Re: [ANN - AMA] bitCash - Digital Money of the Future!
« Reply #239 on: April 12, 2016, 09:46:41 am »
wow .. that thing looks great ...
if you offer a way to import an existing account .. people wouldn't need to create new accounts to play around!
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