Show something good on the front page

[EstefanTT]

You're right ! It would be better, indeed, to be able to send someone in the DEX directly.
Can't we add a guest mode ?

[speedy]

If you want to share a link just share one direct to the USD market rather than mucking around https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/market/USD_BTS. I don't think you need an account to see that do you?

Yes you actually do need an account to see that link, otherwise it redirects you to the Create Account screen. At that point a Bitcoin maximalist would use use that as an excuse to continue believing that you cant have an exchange on a blockchain, and just piss off elsewhere.

Has anyone actually shared a link to BitShares on a Bitcoin forum and got a positive response?

[cass]

We need a real site designer to redesign the look of Openledger.  The whole thing looks like a mess.  I want an option for a clean white looking exchange.  NO black and grey please!

welcome a board .. a warm welcome!
Your wish is my command Sir!

[bang-king]

We need a real site designer to redesign the look of Openledger.  The whole thing looks like a mess.  I want an option for a clean white looking exchange.  NO black and grey please!

[unreadPostsSinceLastVisit]

My point is, isn't it going to scare people who just want to understand the basics of the wallet. Someone coming from a mycelium bitcoin wallet for example ?

There will be other wallets for that. @merivercap is working talking about one for bitUSD, and moonstone is in the pipeline. who knows what pipedreams people may be entertaining

[KenMonkey]

I don't see much difference.

You sign in polo then you click on exchange and you there.

You sign in OL, then you click on the trade tab and you have a list of the markets, you click and you are there.

It might be good enough for you as an existing user, but is the exchange good enough to convince someone who still wants to believe that BitShares is just an altcoin? Giving the charts quickly on the frontpage without having to register is the way to overcome that misconception.

If you want to share a link just share one direct to the USD market rather than mucking around https://bitshares.org/wallet/#/market/USD_BTS. I don't think you need an account to see that do you?

[cass]

let's add some screenshots of the wallet when light skin is ready ..  and then linking from there ..could this make sense?

[Thom]

@speedy, you are comparing different pages, your screenshot depictures https://bitshares.org/wallet , not https://bitshares.org/
here is poloniex analog: https://poloniex.com/signup

I am comparing the page that is 1 easy click away from the poloniex.com frontpage, vs the page that I get frustratingly redirected to after 3 clicks on https://bitshares.openledger.info (and https://bitshares.org/wallet), when I attempt to look at the markets without an account.

You get the problem right? How is BitShares supposed to spread virally if its impossible for non-registered users to find out that there is even trading activity going on?

I just checked out poloniex for the first time. I have no account there. Indeed, it is easy to see the markets with just one click, but the UX is terrible because of poor performance. I do not experience anything like that with the OL wallet.

Wow. what I wrote above is true for Firefox, but not for IE-11. I guess I need to find another browser. OL reports it doesn't like Firefox anyways. I just can't bring myself to install chrome. Although a nice standards compliant browser I just don't trust google and how far they have their hooks in my data and browsing habits.

On IE the poloniex UI / UX is nice and clean. Takes awhile to download the charts but not terrible. Overall I give it a very positive A rating after a quick, cursory look at it.

[EstefanTT]

I see your point for the person interested in knowing what is BitShares capable of or the one interested in trading.

My point is, isn't it going to scare people who just want to understand the basics of the wallet. Someone coming from a mycelium bitcoin wallet for example ?

I know that before I understood how a trading plateform worked, I was running away as soon as I saw red and green candles, it seems to me complicated and reserved for traders.

[speedy]

I don't see much difference.

You sign in polo then you click on exchange and you there.

You sign in OL, then you click on the trade tab and you have a list of the markets, you click and you are there.

It might be good enough for you as an existing user, but is the exchange good enough to convince someone who still wants to believe that BitShares is just an altcoin? Giving the charts quickly on the frontpage without having to register is the way to overcome that misconception.

[EstefanTT]

I don't see much difference.

You sign in polo then you click on exchange and you there.

You sign in OL, then you click on the trade tab and you have a list of the markets, you click and you are there.

The second click you have to do is only the very first time you use it. It's to select one market, which is also something you have to do in polo but it is in the same screnn. After going to the DEX for the first time, the trade tab links you directly on the last pair you watched.

On the other hand, it's also a wallet. IMO is better to display something simple on the first screen for everybody (not everyone wants to go to the trading platform, is scary for certain person that just want a wallet). The ones interested in the DEX, will certainly spend the time to click on the "trade" tab.

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[Tuck Fheman]

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[btstip]

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[abit]

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[fuzzy]

I really do think this is pretty good thinking. however i think it will take time to get to the point where something like this will be seen.  love the idea though.  spot on with user behavior.

[Vizzini]

I strongly agree with this sentiment. What OpenLedger needs is a good landing page, because if we are going to refer people there and it just looks like a login screen, who the heck is going to sign up? It's one thing if you route them there from an explanatory web page, but if that's the landing page from some random link or invitation they've clicked, not knowing what they're getting into, then it doesn't provide much chance of converting that referral into a user.

[iHashFury]

The simple and direct ideas are alwasys the best 

[Stan]

While you are at it, it might help if the plot were automatically rotated to maintain the proper slope at all times...

[mangou007]

It is true that it does not reflect the purpose of the website...
I have to agree with you on this one... Plus it would be a GREAT plus for open ledger... BIG BIG plus!!!!

[emailtooaj]

+5 speedy, you've earned that name lol.
I literally thought the same thing when I went to down load the newest lite wallet earlier today!

[Akado]

I agree, this makes sense.

Why not showing for example BTS:BitUSD or other market possible BitCNY at the background, a little darker and with transparency with the sign up page we currently have on top?

So people would get to sign up but at the same time be able to check a little the market interface? And if they clicked anywhere else other than the text boxs, the sign up page would fade away and they could fully see the market interface.

[TravelsAsia]

@speedy, you are comparing different pages, your screenshot depictures https://bitshares.org/wallet , not https://bitshares.org/
here is poloniex analog: https://poloniex.com/signup

I am comparing the page that is 1 easy click away from the poloniex.com frontpage, vs the page that I get frustratingly redirected to after 3 clicks on https://bitshares.openledger.info (and https://bitshares.org/wallet), when I attempt to look at the markets without an account.

You get the problem right? How is BitShares supposed to spread virally if its impossible for non-registered users to find out that there is even trading activity going on?

 

[speedy]

@speedy, you are comparing different pages, your screenshot depictures https://bitshares.org/wallet , not https://bitshares.org/
here is poloniex analog: https://poloniex.com/signup

I am comparing the page that is 1 easy click away from the poloniex.com frontpage, vs the page that I get frustratingly redirected to after 3 clicks on https://bitshares.openledger.info (and https://bitshares.org/wallet), when I attempt to look at the markets without an account.

You get the problem right? How is BitShares supposed to spread virally if its impossible for non-registered users to find out that there is even trading activity going on?

[valzav]

@speedy, you are comparing different pages, your screenshot depictures https://bitshares.org/wallet , not https://bitshares.org/
here is poloniex analog: https://poloniex.com/signup

[clayop]

I think we need guest mode too

[Pheonike]

 

[speedy]

This is what happens when you dont have an account on Poloniex:


And this is what happens when you dont have an account on Openledger:


99% of visitors get bored within 3 seconds of your website and will move onto something else unless there is something that grabs them.

Visitors want to see a real exchange with activity first, then they will register and maybe deposit into it. I havent shared a link to BitShares to anyone in over a year. The last time I did I was buried as an altcoin spammer, and that would still happen if I shared this today. It needs to look less like a wallet and more like a real exchange.

Just my opinion. If it changes then I might actually start sharing links to BitShares again.