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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2015, 05:48:43 pm »
 +5% +5% +5%

I'll test in once it's available in the gui
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2015, 07:21:53 pm »
Nice!! This is a valuable service and excellent hint of graphene's possibilities. This is the tip of the iceberg.

Your beta strategy is great and I'm glad you moved forward without waiting for others.. very inspiring!
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2015, 07:34:54 pm »
I would suggest a flat rate, or a series of flat rates based upon service level.  Maybe have a free option that only works with an account registered by you so you get the referral income, and there is a 30 minute delay in transaction processing.  Then have a rate of let's say 800 bts a month (set as a recurring transaction) for an unlimited account that you registered.  Then maybe 1000bts a month to integrate an existing account.  Provide alternate means of verification.  Email, text, other online messaging, Google. 

Perhaps the differentiator for free vs paid accounts could simply be the ability to modify parameters.  Or rate limiting.
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2015, 07:36:23 pm »
Wow.  Nice Xeroc.  So how have you figured out the exact amount that will be charged?
The reigstration fee of 200 BTS is just a little to pay for the account registration fee (50 BTS) and have some funds available initially to approve proposals.
The 0.4% fee is just an idea and not fixed yet .. However, I wanted to show people the progress I am making and let them play around it ..

Not sure how to deal with the business/profit related issues yet .. that's why I started with a bold 0.4% flat ...

Any suggestions on how to please the customers and still have the service be profitable?

nice approach!

i think 0.4% will be really expensive, considering this is just a kind of "insurance"

i would say you should try to calculate how many accounts you can handle automated with your computer etc. and make a yearly or monthly fee.

say, you will charge 15 bitUSD for 1 year. with this pricing you will make more with small accounts, but less with higher accounts. But i assume in the long run,
you would have much to do with not so used accounts and from my expierence theses accounts will cost you much more time then the big accounts, because they need more
attention.

maybe, you can think also about future  services you can charge extra fees etc.

could you give me a hint how i can start the client wallet on windows? i am trying for a couple of days, but my tech is to low to understand it. i think the node is running, but i can't do anything with the client wallet.

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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2015, 08:52:51 pm »
Fantastic news [member=120]xeroc[/member] and what a way to celebrate your 10,000th post!

This will be extremely useful for us at Bitcash so really glad you are doing this!

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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2015, 09:24:31 pm »
+1

Great work xeroc!
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2015, 09:26:37 pm »
Hmm.. [member=120]xeroc[/member] Just found that I hadn't got any email..
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2015, 09:29:08 pm »



I played with this today and it works well. Certainly opens the door for other ideas/uses. Graphene is the best kept secret in crypto.

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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2015, 10:11:03 pm »
Hmm.. [member=120]xeroc[/member] Just found that I hadn't got any email..
Have you checked spam folder? I see a gmail.com address for your account and a registered secured account ..
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2015, 10:12:31 pm »
FYI, I am taking down the proposal-monitoring script until another issue is fixed .. I will keep you posted
That that want to test the 2FA authentication will need to wait a few more days ..

sorry for any inconveniences
I'll keep you posted
« Last Edit: December 15, 2015, 10:22:40 pm by xeroc »
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2015, 11:11:51 pm »
Hmm.. [member=120]xeroc[/member] Just found that I hadn't got any email..
Have you checked spam folder? I see a gmail.com address for your account and a registered secured account ..
No new mail in spam folder.. and yes I saw that account registered (from the transaction history of peermit-reg).

FYI, I am taking down the proposal-monitoring script until another issue is fixed .. I will keep you posted
That that want to test the 2FA authentication will need to wait a few more days ..

sorry for any inconveniences
I'll keep you posted
Sent another 200BTS to peermit-reg before seen this post.. :P will wait.. wish you fix the issue soon  +5%
BTW better update OP if not did.
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2015, 08:34:50 am »
Hmm.. [member=120]xeroc[/member] Just found that I hadn't got any email..
Have you checked spam folder? I see a gmail.com address for your account and a registered secured account ..
No new mail in spam folder.. and yes I saw that account registered (from the transaction history of peermit-reg).

FYI, I am taking down the proposal-monitoring script until another issue is fixed .. I will keep you posted
That that want to test the 2FA authentication will need to wait a few more days ..

sorry for any inconveniences
I'll keep you posted
Sent another 200BTS to peermit-reg before seen this post.. :P will wait.. wish you fix the issue soon  +5%
BTW better update OP if not did.

You are right .. it seems gmail blocked that mail .. at least the deny to take that mail several times
It should have went through by now.

I'll investigate
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2015, 09:18:35 am »
nice approach!

i think 0.4% will be really expensive, considering this is just a kind of "insurance"

i would say you should try to calculate how many accounts you can handle automated with your computer etc. and make a yearly or monthly fee.

say, you will charge 15 bitUSD for 1 year. with this pricing you will make more with small accounts, but less with higher accounts. But i assume in the long run,
you would have much to do with not so used accounts and from my expierence theses accounts will cost you much more time then the big accounts, because they need more
attention.
Thanks for the input.
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maybe, you can think also about future  services you can charge extra fees etc.
That is the plan.

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could you give me a hint how i can start the client wallet on windows? i am
trying for a couple of days, but my tech is to low to understand it. i think the
node is running, but i can't do anything with the client wallet.
you need to open the rpc port in the witness node:

./programs/witness_node/witness_node --rpc-endpoint="192.168.0.100:8090"

and can then connect your cli_wallet with that witness with:

./programs/cli_wallet/cli_wallet --server-rpc-endpoint="ws://192.168.0.100:8090"

Note that you need to import the keys you want to use in the cli_wallet manually
using
import_key <account> "<wif>"

Some common calls are given here:
http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/often-used-calls.html

Cheers
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2015, 07:06:21 pm »
is this re-enabled yet Xeroc.  I was hoping to play with it help test a little bit today.
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Re: [Ann] Peermit.com - 2FA for BitShares (early beta for advanced users)
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2015, 07:36:20 pm »
Yes it is .. however i will be unavailable over the weekend to give you any support .. I'll add the instruction (that i removed for security reasons) in a few minutes

//edit: I added the instructions .. have fun
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 07:38:45 pm by xeroc »
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