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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

Damn :o
Stock brokerage that runs on the blockchain.
Highly possible if AML/Kyc challenges are tackled.
CCEDK is in a perfect position to do this.

Not sure if Ronny is doing it though.
Beautiful concept none the less.

Whitelisting procedure and introdution as well as the ability to use the fiat gateway will be started monday next week first week of 2016. It is top priority to be implemented and functional already this first week, so I expect and hope for a great start of this New Year.

You are talking about AML/KYC
Am talking about a full blown brokerage.
What you have is a brick.
What am talking of, is a wall.  :)

You could do BitStock trading without whitelisting but there would be no dividends so probably better suited to indexes.

Solving the market making problem is the hard thing though. Interested to see the automated market maker Augur will be running.

If it's still running, there's also DacX the Chinese based, stock trading, crowdfunding company which used BitShares but that requires you to trust a third party.
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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

Damn :o
Stock brokerage that runs on the blockchain.
Highly possible if AML/Kyc challenges are tackled.
CCEDK is in a perfect position to do this.

Not sure if Ronny is doing it though.
Beautiful concept none the less.

Whitelisting procedure and introdution as well as the ability to use the fiat gateway will be started monday next week first week of 2016. It is top priority to be implemented and functional already this first week, so I expect and hope for a great start of this New Year.

Please can you tell us how the Whitelisting procedure and introduction works ronnie.

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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

Damn :o
Stock brokerage that runs on the blockchain.
Highly possible if AML/Kyc challenges are tackled.
CCEDK is in a perfect position to do this.

Not sure if Ronny is doing it though.
Beautiful concept none the less.

Whitelisting procedure and introdution as well as the ability to use the fiat gateway will be started monday next week first week of 2016. It is top priority to be implemented and functional already this first week, so I expect and hope for a great start of this New Year.

You are talking about AML/KYC
Am talking about a full blown brokerage.
What you have is a brick.
What am talking of, is a wall.  :)

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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

Damn :o
Stock brokerage that runs on the blockchain.
Highly possible if AML/Kyc challenges are tackled.
CCEDK is in a perfect position to do this.

Not sure if Ronny is doing it though.
Beautiful concept none the less.

Whitelisting procedure and introdution as well as the ability to use the fiat gateway will be started monday next week first week of 2016. It is top priority to be implemented and functional already this first week, so I expect and hope for a great start of this New Year.
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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

Damn :o
Stock brokerage that runs on the blockchain.
Highly possible if AML/Kyc challenges are tackled.
CCEDK is in a perfect position to do this.

Not sure if Ronny is doing it though.
Beautiful concept none the less.

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Hi Ronnie- i love the video by the way, but i have a question. In there is the example of trading apple stock for copper. I didnt think we were able to buy stock shares yet. This would be something that would be huge because i would like to buy gold mining stocks for example. Rather than use TDAmeritrade, i would MUCH prefer to use the blockchain and trade for example, USD for SANDSTORM Gold or SilverWheaton.

Thanks

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There is understandably a great deal of cynicism around and often a lack of patience in taking the time to communicate thoroughly with the objective of achieving the best outcome firmly in mind.  Please don't be discouraged, you've been simply amazing. 


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but as you can also see under openledger-reg account we have untill now spent 478 000 bts on users signing up which is not being deducted as we want everyboy to have the option to enjoy taking part either in parts or in full when buyback kicks in.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/openledger-reg/member-stats/


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Lifetime fees paid   484,000 BTS
Voting weight   17,560 BTS
Cashback   90d - 724,000 / 1,120,000 BTS
It's good to see that you've earned more BTS than you've paid.

Yes, that does stand to be first priority, to make it a profitable platform, and as you mention this is indeed a good start but obviously still at the very beginning of profit earning.
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but as you can also see under openledger-reg account we have untill now spent 478 000 bts on users signing up which is not being deducted as we want everyboy to have the option to enjoy taking part either in parts or in full when buyback kicks in.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/openledger-reg/member-stats/


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Lifetime fees paid   484,000 BTS
Voting weight   17,560 BTS
Cashback   90d - 724,000 / 1,120,000 BTS
It's good to see that you've earned more BTS than you've paid.
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Nice effort Ronny, gave you some blogger love http://bitsharesblog.com/openledger-video/
In the YouTube description about the video, there is a spelling error for the word required, February should be capitalized...

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Good luck Ronnie. And Good luck to all investing in Obits...

I look forward to you making me look dumb when you deliver one of your advertised products

Thanks, I appreciate that comment, and really I dont want you to look dumb, I actually would like you to enjoy what I am willing to spend most of my every week doing, creating something worthwhile to all BitShares community as well as the rest of the world.

I like the part where you say you were doing due diligence, that is really fine with me.

Remember please that no matter what, NanoCard does work. CCEDK is unfortunate enough to be the second exchange taking this technology into our system, but changes we are not in control of in terms issuer of cards, contractual agreements etc. is making our part in this delayed. As mentioned somewhere else, we are already on first step since last week, abel to activate cards on the base of fiat currency, moving onto bitcoin ealry January, so we are finally getting there  as well.

NanoCard or in other words the only real bitcoin debit card with instant conversion from btc to fiat available anywhere(not e-coin, not xapo has this solutiono untill now) has existed as long as I have been promoting NanoCard.

I have never been secretive about you or anybody else having the alternative to go to a competing exchange like Bit-x although still a partner in terms of exclusive offering. What other company is offering you an alternative right from the start?

Just like anything else in this world, nothing is as easy as you imagine. Offering projects which which will eventually be delivered will show you as well as anyone else that we do deliver.

The only reason why I have not, like so many other companies, gone out to say, sorry we were worng, we can't deliver, is because my backyard says we can, and therefore I believe.

I accept you dont believe just yet, and the only thing I will be looking forward to is for you to say to yourself, shute I guess I was wrong, thanks god, it seems BitShares is really going forward.

That's what I want you to think, and do hope this will be sooner than later.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 06:20:07 pm by ccedk »
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Good luck Ronnie. And Good luck to all investing in Obits...

I look forward to you making me look dumb when you deliver one of your advertised products

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process


My main intention has always been to give people around the world a possiblity to enjoy what BitShares is all about.

Thank you for your constant pessimistic way, It allows me to wake up and see there is a world outside BitShares as well.

Let me try:

"Hey Ronnie.  Awesome video!  Maybe there ought to be a little disclaimer somewhere saying "coming soon" just to manage expectations when they show up to our web site.   Say "hi" to the family and have a great Christmas!"

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Constructive and polite.

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Let me try:

"Hey Ronnie.  Awesome video!  Maybe there ought to be a little disclaimer somewhere saying "coming soon" just to manage expectations when they show up to our web site.   Say "hi" to the family and have a great Christmas!"

Thanks Stan, you saved me in terms of spending more time on this. And yes, your way of replying is in all cases allowing the possibilty to reply still being constructive, and yes, we will definitely be adding a disclaimer next time.

I wonder what other company introducing a token on the base of the revenue streams are offering the full income of fees from  platform without deducting the costs of running it in the first place!! OH, I forgot, there are no other company offering all profits to be added to the value of a token like this.

We are already now showing a minimum of some 700 000 BTS to be used at first buyback,

http://obits.io/#stats

but as you can also see under openledger-reg account we have untill now spent 478 000 bts on users signing up which is not being deducted as we want everyboy to have the option to enjoy taking part either in parts or in full when buyback kicks in.

https://bitshares.openledger.info/?r=openledger#/account/openledger-reg/member-stats/

I asume Apple just because they are big can go out and  tell about a new product and #take# peoples money when the shares go high, but anyone else trying to make normal people enjoy the future possibilities investing in a platform where you are able to see profits are already generating, cannot! Crazy thinking, really, I will focus on the people interested in creating something for the future, and let the people not believing stay behind.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 04:52:28 pm by ccedk »
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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process


My main intention has always been to give people around the world a possiblity to enjoy what BitShares is all about.

Thank you for your constant pessimistic way, It allows me to wake up and see there is a world outside BitShares as well.

My apologies Ronny.  Sometimes I wonder if the current internet crowd also talk that nasty when they interact with someone in person.  Perhaps some don't interact in person any more and have forgotten how to be polite.

Maybe they think proper etiquette and a touch of class is not required when they can hide behind an anonymous forum handle.  Perhaps it is good, because it shows us the real person and we can take that into account in valuing their inputs.

Such a coarse culture has pretty much destroyed bitcointalk as a place for civil discussion. 
I had hoped it wouldn't happen here.

Let me try:

"Hey Ronnie.  Awesome video!  Maybe there ought to be a little disclaimer somewhere saying "coming soon" just to manage expectations when they show up to our web site.   Say "hi" to the family and have a great Christmas!"

Lol... When someone asks about a very opaque investment with super sketchy details they are considered "coarse and mean".   And a touch of class isn't required when you are taking other peoples money.

If I showed anyone that video and they then wen't and tried to do ANYTHING that was said in that video, they wouldn't be able to.  They would say "what the fuck" and drop bitshares completely thinking its a scam.

Since we have the holidays coming up I would be happy to mumble.   

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process


My main intention has always been to give people around the world a possiblity to enjoy what BitShares is all about.

Thank you for your constant pessimistic way, It allows me to wake up and see there is a world outside BitShares as well.

My apologies Ronny.  Sometimes I wonder if the current internet crowd also talk that nasty when they interact with someone in person.  Perhaps some don't interact in person any more and have forgotten how to be polite.

Maybe they think proper etiquette and a touch of class is not required when they can hide behind an anonymous forum handle.  Perhaps it is good, because it shows us the real person and we can take that into account in valuing their inputs.

Such a coarse culture has pretty much destroyed bitcointalk as a place for civil discussion. 
I had hoped it wouldn't happen here.

Let me try:

"Hey Ronnie.  Awesome video!  Maybe there ought to be a little disclaimer somewhere saying "coming soon" just to manage expectations when they show up to our web site.   Say "hi" to the family and have a great Christmas!"

Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract of any kind.   These are merely my opinions which I reserve the right to change at any time.

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Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process

If it is a general belief that CCEDK will not deliver I will be happy to stop from this very moment to mention anything about bitshares anywhere. You are obviously very intelligent and knows all about marketing.  So I woul be happy to let you take over.

Maybe its time for the people in this forum putting people down all the time, to actually start creating and offering something back to community instead of negativity and critisizim, so I will be happy to relax from now on and let you and your kind take over and do some nice progressive marketing efforts.

My main intention has always been to give people around the world a possiblity to enjoy what BitShares is all about.

Thank you for your constant pessimistic way, It allows me to wake up and see there is a world outside BitShares as well.

Talking about me in third person, really just confirms me that you have no real interest in what I can do to support Bisthares in general, and to be honest you do make me sad, as I thought I was doing good things.

I didn't really care that you kept making/promoting products that didn't exist months ago when you were just trying to promote your exchange...  The only reason I care now is because you are TAKING peoples money (in the form of Obits).

What you are doing, advertising a non-existant product and selling investments based on this non-existant product, is illegal in many places.

Don't try to play the victim.  I'm not being pessimistic, i'm being realistic.  I'm not out to get you, i'm just doing due diligence.  Hopefully what I, and many others have noticed and reported, will prevent someone from losing money.

Granted you have the easiest opportunity to turn this all around and make us look stupid... DELIVER A PRODUCT!

Edit: All, please read the quote above my message to see the original message CCEDK posted.
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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process


My main intention has always been to give people around the world a possiblity to enjoy what BitShares is all about.

Thank you for your constant pessimistic way, It allows me to wake up and see there is a world outside BitShares as well.


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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process

Isn't there a simple solution to this: just don't put this video in the public domain until everything what's said there is true.
Otherwise I agree with @lil_jay890 - it will cause more harm than good.

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
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Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process

Isn't there a simple solution to this: just don't put this video in the public domain until everything what's said there is true.
Otherwise I agree with @lil_jay890 - it will cause more harm than good.

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
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Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.

Remember, all that stuff in the video that doesn't exist is only a "few" weeks away... A response he had been using for the last 6 months for the same features.

Maybe this guy went to some prestigious marketing school that teaches you to advertise non resistant products... To me it sounds more and more like a con in process

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

You realize that when someone watches this, they will assume what you are promoting is already possible right? A use case is 100% meant to be: "This is what I want to do, can you do it?" If the answer is anything other than "Yes, we can do it right now" you should make that clear, otherwise people will think you are full of shit.
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Fiat gateway will be available first/second week of January and only people whitelisted in the sense that they have been validated on CCEDK will be able to have access to any of the below mentioned features. In coming week I will be doing a mailout telling all interested parties who wish to be able to trade with fiatpegged crypto what are the procedures needed prior to making this fully functional on platform.

Paypal is done and ready on CCEDk but awaiting Paypal tech department for final go. Expected available early january

Ripple gateway is fully integrated and done on CCEDK waiting for validation, expected to be settled in coming days, and then ready for launch early january

Nanocard is being activated on the base of three steps right now on CCEDK.

1st is the fiat version, meaniing you are already now able to order and activate a debit card on CCEDK based on fiat.
2nd step, is when seasons holidays are over early january, as bitcoin support will be added for a bitcoin activated card to work.
3rd step is expected end of january and will involve adding other crypto as support for NanoCard, like OBITS, BTS, NBT to begin with.

All of above is on CCEDK

Once multisig function is fully working on OpenLedger we will will then be able to add all of the above there as well, and that part is not in the hands of me or CCEDK, but is in the hands of the BitShares community and shareholders, and as far as I know it is not yet operational, but maybe I am wrong.

We will need a group of people to assist once the multisig part will be possible to connect.

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That's very good news.
Well done, @ccedk

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Where can we find answers of quoted questions?

So, every news story on this just needs to get commented with a link to openledger.info.

Be creative.  Just say:  "Nice web site at openledger.info"  or something.

That helps establish prior existence everywhere.

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great idea to use as a community quest that pays out in bitshares and other sponsored/donated tokens. 

"For every post you write and link to as proof we will give you 500 bts, 200 Brownies, 300 Obits and.....(fill in the blank).


@Stan, @fuzzy @anyone in this thread...

You guys behave like OL is bitshares... should I say they are not quite the same, very much the opposite is true.

Let's look at the facts.

- The Obits offering is sketchy, to say the least. Profit sharing is fine, details are gold [severely lacking details in this case].  How about anwering some of those question, instead of the never arriving into reality card:
What will happen if not all Obits are sold? What percent of the income will go to the one actually sold? What will happen to the unsold ones?

-basic explanation why the Obits sells are needed in the firs place would be also good... but no one cares to mention why they need 1 mil or so USD, and/ or what they will do with that cash

- Proceed of obits sells are used to simply dump BTS on the exchanges. It might be unavoidable evil if it was clear what the money are needed for, but OL hates explaining facts of life (great words for the departed or the one yet to come, is their strength, it seems)

-If the above is not bad enough, instead of efforts to improve in someway its core business (exchange on the bts chain), the money are used to buy all kind of unrelated and semi-related businesses (casinos, advertising networks, tipping bots etc.)

- The way this 'exchange' is run is also a big suspect... I often think the guy was indeed journalist responsible for the obits section of some newspaper... great media contact and total lack of idea what he is doing on the exchange side (aka core business). What I mean? well, I semi get that bitAssets are a total screw up in their mind so they rather not touch them but run their own UIAs -OPENBTCs and the like... but even those IOUs are totally totally ridiculously done.... you send your btc and you get some OpenBTC... then you have to sell them for enormous premium to get into BTS...things get even more crazy if you want to exit the system... Currently, OL do not care to offer their OPENBTC  for anything close to market rate... actually they do not care to offer them AT all for people wanting to take their btc out...some random guy is left to do that for them...and he is asking for 160,000 BTS/BTC with a market rate in the 125,000 range...


So, let's get some money to everyone promoting the above nonsense, shell we?
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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.

Hi. You do a great job, but you hurt you reputation by presenting your achievements bad way. You continue to advertise things which you are not ready to deliver as if they are already delivered. This is confusing and repel potential users off. You really don't need to do this. What you have delivered up to now is impressive enough. I mean open ledger gui and a bridge.
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Fiat gateway will be available first/second week of January and only people whitelisted in the sense that they have been validated on CCEDK will be able to have access to any of the below mentioned features. In coming week I will be doing a mailout telling all interested parties who wish to be able to trade with fiatpegged crypto what are the procedures needed prior to making this fully functional on platform.

Paypal is done and ready on CCEDk but awaiting Paypal tech department for final go. Expected available early january

Ripple gateway is fully integrated and done on CCEDK waiting for validation, expected to be settled in coming days, and then ready for launch early january

Nanocard is being activated on the base of three steps right now on CCEDK.

1st is the fiat version, meaniing you are already now able to order and activate a debit card on CCEDK based on fiat.
2nd step, is when seasons holidays are over early january, as bitcoin support will be added for a bitcoin activated card to work.
3rd step is expected end of january and will involve adding other crypto as support for NanoCard, like OBITS, BTS, NBT to begin with.

All of above is on CCEDK

Once multisig function is fully working on OpenLedger we will will then be able to add all of the above there as well, and that part is not in the hands of me or CCEDK, but is in the hands of the BitShares community and shareholders, and as far as I know it is not yet operational, but maybe I am wrong.

We will need a group of people to assist once the multisig part will be possible to connect.

... so you have not been busy at all then ronnie  :P  This is all very good news and much kudos to you sir  +5%

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Great job ronnie. Thats a good video that we need to get out there.
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I don't know if it's still too early to show but I feel it should have showed the Exchange's interface. When people see something nice they immediately feel the need to check it out. So I think that should have been included somewhere to give a very simple preview, just to get people excited and curious about it. Don't know if it's too early for that though since we're still improving it.

Another thing is the youtube thumbnail, when I post it on social media it appears a random image from the video where it should show the first image when the video starts, the purple/blueish bakcground with the OpenLedger logo. Don't know how to do that though.

Other than that, it's nice to finally have something to share that is easy to understand
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A 2 minute invitation for something great - Enjoy!

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"to invest in the company "


You might want to use different language there. Obits aren't investments in the company and if Open Ledger exists as a legally registered business then it could cause confusion.

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Unlike other cryptocurrencies, OBITS is based on profits generated from companies that are involved in making OpenLedger a decentralized smart trading platform.

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The video says you can trade assets and stay anonymous, but how is that possible? I thought that stealth accounts could not place trades.

Is there another kind of anonymity in OpenLedger? Even the usernames associated with individual trade orders are public. See http://cryptofresh.com/a/USD

What is your definition of anonymous? All trades on OpenLedger is what it claims it is, an open book, but any users trading on the platform decide whether they want to tell their name or not, they are anonymous untill they get whitelisted on platform and enabled to trade with fiat achived via coming gateway on USD, EUR and CNY.
I see. Thanks for explaining.

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What about most of Europe?
Most of our target users in Europe speak English.
Those who don't are not the primary users we are looking for (at this stage).

As for the Chinese version (and possibly Spanish to cover Latin America), I fully agree.

Yes, that is also my prioity: Chinese, Japanese, Spanish and then we'll see

There is a big community of ripple owners interested in joining Openledger due to OBITS and they are waiting for the ripple getting up and working. I do note the new development from Ripple, so I have to find out how that affects the work we  have done already on the gateway integration on CCEDK.
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What about most of Europe?
Most of our target users in Europe speak English.
Those who don't are not the primary users we are looking for (at this stage).

As for the Chinese version (and possibly Spanish to cover Latin America), I fully agree.

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Now the question is, with this video only being in english, what about China? The biggest market?

What about most of Europe? Americans probably aren't the only or best target audience for CCEDK so how do we reach the biggest demographics (like China?).

Other than that it's a good video, we need video ads. We need ads in general.

That question is already being worked. If you have followed my interest in getting the news out in as many languages as possible and with lots of news coverage in chinese as well, and as one of the few managed also to really get the Japanese involved with both landing page of Openledger as well as OBITS site in Japanese, I am all in for getting information out globally.

Chinese is a must with this video a well as Japanese. What is biggest hurdle is to get a good voice on both Chinese and Japanese at affordable price. Any other langauges are also welcome, but all in due course. I wish Korean would be an interested party in all of this also, but I lack support from anyone in the Korean community to help get the message out, assuming there is more than one Korean supporter of BitShares. There was none in Japanese before I started with OBITS, and now we have already more than 100 signups on OpenLedger from Japan.

This coming week we are approaching the chinese community and obviously we hope to have the usual big help from @ebit who has been a great support getting the news out in chinese so far.

I am sorry if I have somehow indicated that I do not have focus on China as well as any other country in the world, but let me underline again that it is very important for me to gt the message to as many people as possible anywhere in the world.
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Now the question is, with this video only being in english, what about China? The biggest market?

What about most of Europe? Americans probably aren't the only or best target audience for CCEDK so how do we reach the biggest demographics (like China?).

Other than that it's a good video, we need video ads. We need ads in general.
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@ ccedk  +5% +5% +5%

for a long time I wanted a video like this for bitshares. I have posted it on my website www.bitshares.gr (you can watch it by pressing the button "Δες το video". I hope that is ok with you, otherwise please let me know and I will take it down.

Why on earth should I mind you sharing a video made especially to be shared and shown anywhere. I can only hope as many as possible will follow your exampl in orer to spread the information about that special boy in town, here to stay.

Thanks for your support
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A 2 minute pitch to last a Life time - The OpenLedger way!

A 2 minute invitation for something great - Enjoy!

Feel free to share
- It is meant for the world to use, the sooner the better!

OpenLedger - Smart Trading Decentralised

https://youtu.be/--CivEZvTxU


"to invest in the company "


You might want to use different language there. Obits aren't investments in the company and if Open Ledger exists as a legally registered business then it could cause confusion.
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@ ccedk  +5% +5% +5%

for a long time I wanted a video like this for bitshares. I have posted it on my website www.bitshares.gr (you can watch it by pressing the button "Δες το video". I hope that is ok with you, otherwise please let me know and I will take it down.

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Fiat gateway will be available first/second week of January and only people whitelisted in the sense that they have been validated on CCEDK will be able to have access to any of the below mentioned features. In coming week I will be doing a mailout telling all interested parties who wish to be able to trade with fiatpegged crypto what are the procedures needed prior to making this fully functional on platform.

Paypal is done and ready on CCEDk but awaiting Paypal tech department for final go. Expected available early january

Ripple gateway is fully integrated and done on CCEDK waiting for validation, expected to be settled in coming days, and then ready for launch early january

Nanocard is being activated on the base of three steps right now on CCEDK.

1st is the fiat version, meaniing you are already now able to order and activate a debit card on CCEDK based on fiat.
2nd step, is when seasons holidays are over early january, as bitcoin support will be added for a bitcoin activated card to work.
3rd step is expected end of january and will involve adding other crypto as support for NanoCard, like OBITS, BTS, NBT to begin with.

All of above is on CCEDK

Once multisig function is fully working on OpenLedger we will will then be able to add all of the above there as well, and that part is not in the hands of me or CCEDK, but is in the hands of the BitShares community and shareholders, and as far as I know it is not yet operational, but maybe I am wrong.

We will need a group of people to assist once the multisig part will be possible to connect.

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That's very good news.
Well done, @ccedk

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Hi everyone, I'm new here. Thanks for the kind words about the video. I don't want to hijack this thread, so if you want to talk video, feel free visit my video thread. Link in sig.

Anyway, I think OpenLedger is a really exciting platform and the past few days ( while researching for this video )  my mind was blown learning about Bitshares ! Next gen stuff, for sure.

Seems like y'all have a really nice community here. Nice and friendly compared to.."the other forum" ;)
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Like Fav, interested in video budget, if willing to share that info.

 +5% +5% though :)

I am sorry I cannot tell the price here, but suggest anyone interested to connect with Hypercube Studios and ask, hope that's fair enough.
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 +5% Very good video  :) Clear and concise.

Video seems completed but input would have been...

- Handwriting effect slightly overused at times. 
- Could mention 'As Featured  in Forbes...' For credibility with impactful quote from article written on screen.
- Besides MTGox might visually rapidly scan through other high profile centralised Bitcoin failures, including the most recent Cryptsy, so viewer gets the sense that no centralised exchange/other is safe.



Like Fav, interested in video budget, if willing to share that info.

 +5% +5% though :)

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

This is a usecase meant to be used, well, as a use case all year long as well as the year after.

You are allowed to  have your own opinion on what is happening on CCEDK, and I will keep saying what I believe is going to happen.

A use case is not meant to be exact here and now, but able to build momentum and create interest for the future.
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Smartcoins are backed by AT LEAST 175% .. not 100%

I believe that part was mentiioned to underline that it was minimum 100%, it might be wrong, but then a few clever hads who saw it prior to release didnt comment, so the meaning of Smartcoins being backed is intact I believe, but maybe I am wrong.

Thi si a short use case, and the idea to have people catch interest, I believe anyone really interested will then go ahead and stuy some more on th topic, and that is the intention here, mainly to make people in crypto and perhaps even more th bitcoin holders looking for alternaives where to invest some of their funds.
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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

When did Openledger start verifying with Ripple?!?

Fiat gateway will be available first/second week of January and only people whitelisted in the sense that they have been validated on CCEDK will be able to have access to any of the below mentioned features. In coming week I will be doing a mailout telling all interested parties who wish to be able to trade with fiatpegged crypto what are the procedures needed prior to making this fully functional on platform.

Paypal is done and ready on CCEDk but awaiting Paypal tech department for final go. Expected available early january

Ripple gateway is fully integrated and done on CCEDK waiting for validation, expected to be settled in coming days, and then ready for launch early january

Nanocard is being activated on the base of three steps right now on CCEDK.

1st is the fiat version, meaniing you are already now able to order and activate a debit card on CCEDK based on fiat.
2nd step, is when seasons holidays are over early january, as bitcoin support will be added for a bitcoin activated card to work.
3rd step is expected end of january and will involve adding other crypto as support for NanoCard, like OBITS, BTS, NBT to begin with.

All of above is on CCEDK

Once multisig function is fully working on OpenLedger we will will then be able to add all of the above there as well, and that part is not in the hands of me or CCEDK, but is in the hands of the BitShares community and shareholders, and as far as I know it is not yet operational, but maybe I am wrong.

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Smartcoins are backed by AT LEAST 175% .. not 100%

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The video says you can trade assets and stay anonymous, but how is that possible? I thought that stealth accounts could not place trades.

Is there another kind of anonymity in OpenLedger? Even the usernames associated with individual trade orders are public. See http://cryptofresh.com/a/USD

What is your definition of anonymous? All trades on OpenLedger is what it claims it is, an open book, but any users trading on the platform decide whether they want to tell their name or not, they are anonymous untill they get whitelisted on platform and enabled to trade with fiat achived via coming gateway on USD, EUR and CNY.

You stay anonymous on the platform as long as you dont get involved with upcoming fiat gateways, just the same as you stay 100% safe as long as you stay on platform and dont unlock your wallet.
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The video says you can trade assets and stay anonymous, but how is that possible? I thought that stealth accounts could not place trades.

Is there another kind of anonymity in OpenLedger? Even the usernames associated with individual trade orders are public. See http://cryptofresh.com/a/USD
I suspect Ronny means that accounts aren't tied to people (no identity information to create an account and begin trading). So, while it's certainly possible to see that "youdontknow-me" is trading, you don't know who he is.
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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images.

When did Openledger start verifying with Ripple?!?
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The video says you can trade assets and stay anonymous, but how is that possible? I thought that stealth accounts could not place trades.

Is there another kind of anonymity in OpenLedger? Even the usernames associated with individual trade orders are public. See http://cryptofresh.com/a/USD

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Nanocard- doesn't work with CCEDK
Paypal- not integrated with CCEDK

Why do you continues to advertise things that don't exist?

Plus,  Whats with the hand drawing thing?  You can tell it's not drawing any of the images. 

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A 2 minute pitch to last a Life time - The OpenLedger way!

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