Lets woo basic coins to migrate natively to our blockchain.

[cube]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

Paging @cass

Edit:  One of our long time member, Adam listed his coin LTBcoin in counterparty.  Perhaps we can invite him to move LTBcoin to bts.

ok and what should happen when user hits the button?

Took the thought right out of my brain Cass. Getting "listed" involves much more than slapping a link on a website. We need a complete and simple step by step plan of what it takes for people who know very little about BitShares to integrate on our DEX. Frankly I don;t even know what it would take for a "foreign" coin to be tradeable. Are we talking something like an IOU UIA such as Open.BTC or something else?

It could link to BitShares documentation about that.

For example, there is already documentation on how to get an exchange working on top of BitShares, we should have the same like "Deploy your Exchange on BitShares" and having it redirect to http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/exchanges/index.html

The documentation can be overwhelming for a new exchange or altcoin.  How about "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org pops up an email address to start the conversation going?  The email address can be from the devs or one of the community members who volunteers.

[cylonmaker2053]

My 2 cents

Get listed on BitShares DEX:

- Migrate natively
- Get Listed as an IOU from one of our Exchange
- Get Listed as a MPA
* Create a new Asset

+ a little HowTo for the tricky part when you click on one of the list item

that'd be the best case scenario for us, but also makes a lot of sense for new altcoin ideas that would like to benefit from our network effects and superior technology..

[Akado]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

Paging @cass

Edit:  One of our long time member, Adam listed his coin LTBcoin in counterparty.  Perhaps we can invite him to move LTBcoin to bts.

ok and what should happen when user hits the button?

Took the thought right out of my brain Cass. Getting "listed" involves much more than slapping a link on a website. We need a complete and simple step by step plan of what it takes for people who know very little about BitShares to integrate on our DEX. Frankly I don;t even know what it would take for a "foreign" coin to be tradeable. Are we talking something like an IOU UIA such as Open.BTC or something else?

It could link to BitShares documentation about that.

For example, there is already documentation on how to get an exchange working on top of BitShares, we should have the same like "Deploy your Exchange on BitShares" and having it redirect to http://docs.bitshares.eu/integration/exchanges/index.html

[DestBest]

My 2 cents

Get listed on BitShares DEX:

- Migrate natively
- Get Listed as an IOU from one of our Exchange
- Get Listed as a MPA
* Create a new Asset

+ a little HowTo for the tricky part when you click on one of the list item

[Thom]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

Paging @cass

Edit:  One of our long time member, Adam listed his coin LTBcoin in counterparty.  Perhaps we can invite him to move LTBcoin to bts.

ok and what should happen when user hits the button?

Took the thought right out of my brain Cass. Getting "listed" involves much more than slapping a link on a website. We need a complete and simple step by step plan of what it takes for people who know very little about BitShares to integrate on our DEX. Frankly I don;t even know what it would take for a "foreign" coin to be tradeable. Are we talking something like an IOU UIA such as Open.BTC or something else?

[cass]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

Paging @cass

Edit:  One of our long time member, Adam listed his coin LTBcoin in counterparty.  Perhaps we can invite him to move LTBcoin to bts.

ok and what should happen when user hits the button?

[cylonmaker2053]

On top of the Get listed on the Bitshares DEX, we should also have "BitShares is looking for business partners" or "Looking to help new businesses/services" and then we show multiple use cases and how our tech can help, ie: exchanges, crowdfunding, etc

That should help attract new businesses, people will immediately know they can use BitSHares for

 

[Empirical1.2]

On top of the Get listed on the Bitshares DEX, we should also have "BitShares is looking for business partners" or "Looking to help new businesses/services" and then we show multiple use cases and how our tech can help, ie: exchanges, crowdfunding, etc

That should help attract new businesses, people will immediately know they can use BitSHares for

Tough to make that case when just last week the community decided to remove the partners section of the forum claiming we should have no partners.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html

Partners or 3rd party services, I think it's just semantics.. The idea is to advertise we want businesses and services using BitShares and have them quickly understand how they can do it via use cases

I doubt BTS holders would object to having a "Looking to help new businesses/services" section.

'Partnerships' impact reputation though and reputation has a very tangible impact on market value. (The impact of reputation on market value - http://www.reputationdividend.com/files/4713/4822/1479/Reputation_Dividend_WEC_133_Cole.pdf )

So BTS can have partners, but what you tend to see is BTS holders doing a lot more due diligence and interrogation of potential 'partners' because they understand the reputation risk and impact on BTS value if they turn out to be duds/viewed as shady by the market, whereas they are mostly welcoming and positive of third parties that integrate/adopt BTS.

As most prefer to see BTS be highly positive and welcoming, you're probably usually better off avoiding the 'partner' descriptor imo.

[Akado]

On top of the Get listed on the Bitshares DEX, we should also have "BitShares is looking for business partners" or "Looking to help new businesses/services" and then we show multiple use cases and how our tech can help, ie: exchanges, crowdfunding, etc

That should help attract new businesses, people will immediately know they can use BitSHares for

Tough to make that case when just last week the community decided to remove the partners section of the forum claiming we should have no partners.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html

Partners or 3rd party services, I think it's just semantics.. The idea is to advertise we want businesses and services using BitShares and have them quickly understand how they can do it via use cases

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

On top of the Get listed on the Bitshares DEX, we should also have "BitShares is looking for business partners" or "Looking to help new businesses/services" and then we show multiple use cases and how our tech can help, ie: exchanges, crowdfunding, etc

That should help attract new businesses, people will immediately know they can use BitSHares for

Tough to make that case when just last week the community decided to remove the partners section of the forum claiming we should have no partners.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21699.0.html

[Akado]

On top of the Get listed on the Bitshares DEX, we should also have "BitShares is looking for business partners" or "Looking to help new businesses/services" and then we show multiple use cases and how our tech can help, ie: exchanges, crowdfunding, etc

That should help attract new businesses, people will immediately know they can use BitSHares for

[Chris4210]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

I added the offer to my daily automatic Tweets.

[Stan]

Ok, ok.  All this awesome thinking has goaded me into finally releasing this draft article.

"Marty, What are we going to do with all that power?"

Let me know if you can use any of it.

[cube]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

Paging @cass

Edit:  One of our long time member, Adam listed his coin LTBcoin in counterparty.  Perhaps we can invite him to move LTBcoin to bts.

[cylonmaker2053]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

i say go for it!

[Louis]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

Brilliant idea

[JonnyB]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

Nice idea, Anyone disagree with this?

[sudo]

Storj probably moving out of Counterparty, considering Ethereum twitter.com

[Ander]

Getting Storj or Bitcrystals to become a Bitshares asset would be a huge win.

[cylonmaker2053]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

I never thought about that, it's a good idea 

i like the overall sentiment and this should be one area of our marketing someone runs with. Has anyone reached out to the SuperNET crew? they've pulled in some minor coins to their project, so pulling them into ours could have added synergy.

Or have them migrate the entire thing here 

yes, i love the "Get Listed on Bitshares DEX" button idea, and, of course, i wouldn't complain about SuperNET fully migrating over to Bitshares

[Akado]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

I never thought about that, it's a good idea 

i like the overall sentiment and this should be one area of our marketing someone runs with. Has anyone reached out to the SuperNET crew? they've pulled in some minor coins to their project, so pulling them into ours could have added synergy.

Or have them migrate the entire thing here 

[Erlich Bachman]

ah, door to door sales

a tried and true marketing endeavor

count me in

[cylonmaker2053]

i like the overall sentiment and this should be one area of our marketing someone runs with. Has anyone reached out to the SuperNET crew? they've pulled in some minor coins to their project, so pulling them into ours could have added synergy.

[DestBest]

We lack a "Get listed on BitShares DEX" button on bitshares.org

[Empirical1.2]

I don't understand. Why would a sophisticated fee system translate into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchain those assets are based on?

Take a look at what happens in Ethereum already: Developers complain about high fee prices.
Basically because the fee in Ethereum depends on the architecture of the contract you want to run .. but NOT on the value that the smart contract brings to Ethereum as a business. They could reduce the fees and thus remove a chunk of their "income" (so to speak) .. or increase the fee and lose developers/dapps .. and all of this just because they cannot give different fees to different apps ..

Thanks for the reply, that is interesting.

I also think adoption of BTS collateralised Smartcoins is where BTS will gain the most value so attracting coins/communities to BTS and by extension potential customers for Smartcoins is perhaps also how we will gain additional value from them where XCP/NXT/MSC have failed.

[xeroc]

I don't understand. Why would a sophisticated fee system translate into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchain those assets are based on?

Take a look at what happens in Ethereum already: Developers complain about high fee prices.
Basically because the fee in Ethereum depends on the architecture of the contract you want to run .. but NOT on the value that the smart contract brings to Ethereum as a business. They could reduce the fees and thus remove a chunk of their "income" (so to speak) .. or increase the fee and lose developers/dapps .. and all of this just because they cannot give different fees to different apps ..

[fuzzy]

What exactly is Storj currently getting out of Counterparty? Just the ability to trade a token? If so we could certainly do so far better. Looks they're considering integrating with ETH though which I suppose will allow them to offer storage to smart contracts which could be useful.

This is precisely what im currently doing with the sharebot...to actually bring entire communities here.  we can distribute their tokens to them...using our blockchain. 

I guess this is a good time to say a DASH hangout is in our future. 

Would our community be behind donating a little bit of bitshares for an attendance sharedrop if they are willing to do the same?  This would help us solidify them as a "sharing" community.

[Akado]

What exactly is Storj currently getting out of Counterparty? Just the ability to trade a token? If so we could certainly do so far better. Looks they're considering integrating with ETH though which I suppose will allow them to offer storage to smart contracts which could be useful.

I'm afraid this will be what happens. But if they just want a place to trade, ours is surely the best.

[Empirical1.2]

It's not a bad idea but look at the https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/

17 of the top 20 blockchain based assets & communities are on XCP, NXT & MSC.

Yet  XCP + NXT + MSC = < BTS

Obviously it's not bad a bad thing to attract as many people as possible but thus far that strategy hasn't translated into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchains that attract those coins and communities.

Do they have a fee system as sophisticated as us?

I don't understand. Why would a sophisticated fee system translate into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchain those assets are based on?

[xeroc]

It's not a bad idea but look at the https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/

17 of the top 20 blockchain based assets & communities are on XCP, NXT & MSC.

Yet  XCP + NXT + MSC = < BTS

Obviously it's not bad a bad thing to attract as many people as possible but thus far that strategy hasn't translated into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchains that attract those coins and communities.

Do they have a fee system as sophisticated as us?

[Chris4210]

If BTS value comes primarily from our network effect then we should be incentivising basic coins that have a large userbase to migrate to our blockchain.
MKR and BANX have recently migrated to our blockchain as they benefit from not having to run their own blockchain plus many other features.
Storj have announced they intend to leave the counterparty coloured coin system (bitcoin blockchain)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/49ce5u/storj_probably_moving_out_of_counterparty/

I think other tokens that use counterparty would be a good target to start with. View their top 10 here: https://xcpassets.org/

Also Startcoin would be a prime candidate for migration due to the fact it is just a basic coin that transfers yet has users and publicity. (I have reached out to them already)

If any of you have contacts or know the creators of any top 100 Coinmarketcap coins it would be great if you could reach out to them and make the case for a native migration.

Theres a bunch of UIA coin names I have reserved for a future exchange that I will gladly handover to the corresponding coins should they wish to migrate natively to our blockchain.

Which other basic coins/ feeshare tokens can you think of that would benefit from migrating?

Thats a good start. Who will contact them? Right now everybody is talking about ETH in the Reddit.

[Empirical1.2]

It's not a bad idea but look at the https://coinmarketcap.com/assets/views/all/

17 of the top 20 blockchain based assets & communities are on XCP, NXT & MSC.

Yet  XCP + NXT + MSC = < BTS

Obviously it's not bad a bad thing to attract as many people as possible but thus far that strategy hasn't translated into increased network effect and value for the underlying blockchains that attract those coins and communities.

[Ben Mason]

This is a fantastic idea

[svk]

What exactly is Storj currently getting out of Counterparty? Just the ability to trade a token? If so we could certainly do so far better. Looks they're considering integrating with ETH though which I suppose will allow them to offer storage to smart contracts which could be useful.

[lafona]

Sounds like we would be a good candidate...
https://twitter.com/super3/status/706564680513363968

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

As you noted in Telegram https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/49ce5u/storj_probably_moving_out_of_counterparty/

Storj is up for courtship.

We can promise them the moon.. and deliver!

[JonnyB]

If BTS value comes primarily from our network effect then we should be incentivising basic coins that have a large userbase to migrate to our blockchain.
MKR and BANX have recently migrated to our blockchain as they benefit from not having to run their own blockchain plus many other features.
Storj have announced they intend to leave the counterparty coloured coin system (bitcoin blockchain)
https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/49ce5u/storj_probably_moving_out_of_counterparty/

I think other tokens that use counterparty would be a good target to start with. View their top 10 here: https://xcpassets.org/

Also Startcoin would be a prime candidate for migration due to the fact it is just a basic coin that transfers yet has users and publicity. (I have reached out to them already)

If any of you have contacts or know the creators of any top 100 Coinmarketcap coins it would be great if you could reach out to them and make the case for a native migration.

Theres a bunch of UIA coin names I have reserved for a future exchange that I will gladly handover to the corresponding coins should they wish to migrate natively to our blockchain.

Which other basic coins/ feeshare tokens can you think of that would benefit from migrating?