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State of Stealth ?
« on: May 22, 2016, 06:34:03 am »
i would like to ask 2 questions

1. is stealth now working for "normal" people on the GUI?
2. the distribution of stealth http://cryptofresh.com/a/STEALTH seems akwared. i thought all the funds are holded from onceuponatime and not dan?
did i miss something?

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 01:42:09 pm »
1. No
2. Dan sent onceuponatime a refund for his money and onceuponatime sent Dan his stealth tokens back.

In other words, stealth was used as a cover to hide the development of Steem while we all thought an actual BitShares feature was being developed for months. Then the April Fools Day Steem announcement and concurrent Stealth is not going to happen announcement and it was apparent that all of us were played for fools.

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 01:59:21 pm »
Stealth was prioritized above steem.  It delayed steem by months.


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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 03:42:06 pm »
BitShares Munich will be finishing up the Stealth project. We are launching the new Smartcoins Wallet in android-native ~June 1st and two different POS systems too around the same time. We added, and are training two IPFS people on Graphene right now as well, so all of these tools will be able to work together seamlessly. I am not going to give any dates as of yet, but rest assured guys, Stealth is high-priority. It actually needs to be finished up before we can start on any of our other personal projects that we want to do next. Stealth is next.
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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 04:33:22 pm »
i do not understand. so when oneuponatime didn't paid for stealth who did it? dan from his own pokets?

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 05:33:01 pm »
i do not understand. so when oneuponatime didn't paid for stealth who did it? dan from his own pokets?

I think to compensate onceuponatime for his "loan" he was in Dan's words: "well taken care of" (read: included in the inner circle, advance notice of Steem, etc.). Seems that the devs and their inner circle spent the so-called delayed months caused by the Stealth development to heavily dump most of their remaining BTS from various large accounts.

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2016, 05:56:53 pm »
i do not understand. so when oneuponatime didn't paid for stealth who did it? dan from his own pokets?

I think to compensate onceuponatime for his "loan" he was in Dan's words: "well taken care of" (read: included in the inner circle, advance notice of Steem, etc.). Seems that the devs and their inner circle spent the so-called delayed months caused by the Stealth development to heavily dump most of their remaining BTS from various large accounts.

would love to hear what "really" happened fromb [member=5]bytemaster[/member] or [member=49]onceuponatime[/member] , because i was under the impression, that he paid for the STEALTH and was not aware of the reversed FBAs to Bytemaster.

So, from the allocation right now, Bytemaster is the biggest holders of the FBA STEALTH.

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2016, 06:44:40 pm »
i do not understand. so when oneuponatime didn't paid for stealth who did it? dan from his own pokets?

I think to compensate onceuponatime for his "loan" he was in Dan's words: "well taken care of" (read: included in the inner circle, advance notice of Steem, etc.). Seems that the devs and their inner circle spent the so-called delayed months caused by the Stealth development to heavily dump most of their remaining BTS from various large accounts.

would love to hear what "really" happened fromb [member=5]bytemaster[/member] or [member=49]onceuponatime[/member] , because i was under the impression, that he paid for the STEALTH and was not aware of the reversed FBAs to Bytemaster.

So, from the allocation right now, Bytemaster is the biggest holders of the FBA STEALTH.
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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2016, 10:27:19 pm »
In a nutshell:

BM's team delayed work on STEEM to build Stealth for Onceuponatime.
They completed that effort as specified.
They concluded that more work would need to be done to make it truly usable by the public (i.e. profitable).
BM refunded what Onceup paid (ate the cost of development himself) and received the useless tokens in exchange.
Onceup arranged with BitShares Munich to buy BM's tokens and finish the task with their own funds.


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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 02:19:45 am »
sweet, good to see stealth still getting done! thanks ken and team munich
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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2016, 03:06:32 am »
Im wondering why there is not a work proposal for.stealth..... We could easyly have a budget 100000bts daily applied  n splited to.xeroc, roadscape + 1 work feature n still low inflation..... When bts price apreciate we could do much more with less money......is possible implement in dex lending n margin? This would bring with liquidity a lot in fees........a system to 0 fees to market makers in dex i think is important too.
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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2016, 05:17:50 am »
In a nutshell:

BM's team delayed work on STEEM to build Stealth for Onceuponatime.
They completed that effort as specified.
They concluded that more work would need to be done to make it truly usable by the public (i.e. profitable).
BM refunded what Onceup paid (ate the cost of development himself) and received the useless tokens in exchange.
Onceup arranged with BitShares Munich to buy BM's tokens and finish the task with their own funds.

Let start from the beginning...

-No one wanted stealth...everybody insisted for a more important work that needed to be done for BTS sake BEFORE stealth.

-BM said "no I will work on stealth instead" (also claimed being of  great importance to the BTS future)...

-STEALT was a great lie from the very beginning...there is not much worth 45K...45K to implement already existing cli features into a GUI.

-BM was fully aware of what the final GUI STEALTH will look like (as he knew what the cli stealth was)...

-All  the stealth fiasco was...was just a time for insiders (BM) to sell their stakes before leaving the ship...


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I do think you went to the dark side with your twists and misrepresentations of the facts Stan...and all for financial benefits???

You are getting more and more arrogant, more and more sure you are great with that kind of manipulation with each next one you do... but the rope has always been able to carry just that much weight before it breaks...just as much as at the beginning.




Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2016, 04:37:24 pm »
In a nutshell:

BM's team delayed work on STEEM to build Stealth for Onceuponatime.
They completed that effort as specified.
They concluded that more work would need to be done to make it truly usable by the public (i.e. profitable).
BM refunded what Onceup paid (ate the cost of development himself) and received the useless tokens in exchange.
Onceup arranged with BitShares Munich to buy BM's tokens and finish the task with their own funds.

i don't get this point. i thought bytemaster worked alone on steem?

in hinside it looks to me that way

- STEALTH is not working and will never work that way it was promised!
- i think [member=11011]tonyk[/member] s points are right. It is just a false feature to get the prices longer elevated.

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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 04:57:47 pm »
We need to look foward..
.there is 5k online users in poloniex.....without count top.exchanges.....opportunity to make a profitable dex is huuuuuuuuuuuuge.......stealth is being create by munchen....the guys are not asking for money....lets do it privacy is important too...lets put everything togheter n go foward
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Re: State of Stealth ?
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 06:27:21 am »
- STEALTH is not working and will never work that way it was promised!
it DOES work .. it is just not NICE and SAFE to the end user yet .. and since you could lose fund if you fuckup, BM decided to not launch it publicly ..
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