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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1185 on: February 04, 2014, 04:14:23 pm »
server under maintenance atm
sorry for the inconvenvience


done, i changed the share target to reduce the server workload.

shares/min will decrease, col/min & payout/day won't! just fyi.

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1186 on: February 04, 2014, 04:19:28 pm »
Here is still not connecting ...

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1187 on: February 04, 2014, 04:24:44 pm »
now server is back
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1188 on: February 04, 2014, 04:27:21 pm »
me too failed to connect

Agora foi!

[MASTER] work received - sharetarget: 00ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffbeefde4d
[WORKER] collision found: 38981803 <-> 44177352 #34 @ 1391531119 by 7
[MASTER] submitted share -> SHARE
[STATS] 2014-Feb-04 16:25:22 | 170.0 c/m | 5.0 sh/m | VL: 1 (100.0%), RJ: 0 (0.0%), ST: 0 (0.0%)
[WORKER] collision found: 56451998 <-> 7280068 #510 @ 1391531344 by 16
[MASTER] submitted share -> SHARE
[STATS] 2014-Feb-04 16:26:41 | 536.3 c/m | 1.3 sh/m | VL: 2 (100.0%), RJ: 0 (0.0%), ST: 0 (0.0%)


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Fully working!
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1189 on: February 04, 2014, 04:33:04 pm »
yeah, it should be ok now. thx to the guy on irc, whoever you are/were. :)
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1190 on: February 04, 2014, 04:44:59 pm »
It's up and seems found 1 blocks in 10 min.

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1191 on: February 04, 2014, 05:23:41 pm »
server under maintenance atm
sorry for the inconvenvience


done, i changed the share target to reduce the server workload.

shares/min will decrease, col/min & payout/day won't! just fyi.

- xolokram

Wow you weren't kidding... 1/5th the sh/m now... I'm guessing a lot of folks have come over recently as my payouts have shrunk per share, granted more blocks found so it seems to even out?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 05:26:30 pm by Darkbane »

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1192 on: February 04, 2014, 05:48:15 pm »
?

your payout won't be affected by the shares-target-changes i've made recently! and the pool hasn't found a block since, so you can't judge this by now anyway.

the cause for changes in payouts over last days/weeks is the effect of competition regarding the efficiency of the miner software out there. i don't know what hardware you're using, but there's opencl & cuda optimized gpu mining software for pts out there.

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1193 on: February 04, 2014, 06:31:28 pm »
?

your payout won't be affected by the shares-target-changes i've made recently! and the pool hasn't found a block since, so you can't judge this by now anyway.

the cause for changes in payouts over last days/weeks is the effect of competition regarding the efficiency of the miner software out there. i don't know what hardware you're using, but there's opencl & cuda optimized gpu mining software for pts out there.

- xolokram

going from this...

46602 2014-01-30 22:03:09 13253 / 1084416 -> 0.18500 PTS / 15.14 PTS -> added

to this...

47967 2014-02-04 09:47:39 15645 / 2137928 -> 0.11087 PTS / 15.15 PTS -> PAID

same cpm in both instances... but the average PTS per block has dropped almost in half over the last 5 days... I was attributing it to a large increase of people joining the pool... hence, more blocks, but lower payouts per block? but it averages out with more blocks found? or am I not reading any of this correctly?

so basically where I was getting .18500 pts per found block, now with the same cpm, I only get .11087 pts per block? so half the pay for the same work, but in theory we'll find more blocks so it averages out?
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1194 on: February 04, 2014, 06:39:34 pm »
i don't know what hardware you're using, but there's opencl & cuda optimized gpu mining software for pts out there.
you have to compete with GPUs and different implementations (OpenCL/CUDA/etc.pp.)
it's likely that more efficient miners or software are "eating" your "missing" part of the payout
increased # of miners or found blocks won't help you with that

i guess you're missing the connected problem of increased difficulty that arise with the new efficient gpu implementations
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 07:11:04 pm by xolokram »
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1195 on: February 04, 2014, 07:02:50 pm »
i don't know what hardware you're using, but there's opencl & cuda optimized gpu mining software for pts out there.
you have to compete with GPUs and different implementations (OpenCL/CUDA/etc.pp.)
it's likely that more efficient miners or software are "eating" your "missing" part of the payout
increased # of miners or found blocks won't help you with that

i guess you're missing the connected problem of increased difficulty that arise with the new efficient gpu implementations

But what I am asking... has the number of "cpm" on the pool, almost doubled in the past 5 days... I am trying to understand the information displayed in the line...

from what I understand...

46833 2014-01-31 16:07:17 30838 / 2546117 -> 0.18334 PTS / 15.14 PTS -> PAID

means on 2014-01-31 I did 30838 shares out of 2546117 total pool shares for block 46833 correct? so I was roughly 1.2% of total pool cpm, so I get 1.2% of the 15.14 PTS so .18334 pts...

now looking today at....

48086 2014-02-04 17:40:20 965 / 131346 -> 0.11180 PTS / 15.22 PTS -> block waiting for confirmations

means on 2014-02-04 I did 965 shares out of 131346 total pool shares for block 48086 correct? so I was roughly 0.07% of the total pool cpm, so I get 0.07% of the 15.22 PTS so .11180 pts...

so am I correctly reading this, and understand, that over the past 5 days the number of people using this pool, and total pool cpm rate, has almost doubled? (irregardless of which method they are using to create cpm, just the overall cpm rate has increased that much?)

in theory, more cpm for the entire pool, means more blocks will be found, however they will each be a lower payout as its now spread out among more cpm... but averaging out, more blocks despite being lower pay, would ultimately equate the same level of pay as before... in theory...

english as a second language sometimes makes words used different than my language, so I am trying to make sure I understand things correctly.
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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1196 on: February 04, 2014, 07:17:14 pm »
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in theory, more cpm for the entire pool, means more blocks will be found, however they will each be a lower payout as its now spread out among more cpm... but averaging out, more blocks despite being lower pay, would ultimately equate the same level of pay as before... in theory...
this would be true, when the overall power of the network wouldn't increase, but just the pool

but

that's not the case. with the new implementations for GPUs the overall network power has increased.
thus the difficulty was increasing to let the network stay at the desired block rate (there are not more blocks found!!)
thus the number of shares needed to find a block has increased too
thus you proportion of the overall network, which is the most important indicator for your payout, is decreasing (if you're still using the same miner/hardware)

i hope that was helpful. :)

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1197 on: February 04, 2014, 07:34:10 pm »
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in theory, more cpm for the entire pool, means more blocks will be found, however they will each be a lower payout as its now spread out among more cpm... but averaging out, more blocks despite being lower pay, would ultimately equate the same level of pay as before... in theory...
this would be true, when the overall power of the network wouldn't increase, but just the pool

but

that's not the case. with the new implementations for GPUs the overall network power has increased.
thus the difficulty was increasing to let the network stay at the desired block rate (there are not more blocks found!!)
thus the number of shares needed to find a block has increased too
thus you proportion of the overall network, which is the most important indicator for your payout, is decreasing (if you're still using the same miner/hardware)

i hope that was helpful. :)

- xolokram

it helps some thank you... when I say find more blocks, I do not mean faster than intended by design (which if I remember is every 5min?)... I mean the pool with more cpm has a higher better statistical chance to find that block than if say we there were half the cpm total for the pool...

100,000,000 cpm = more likely to find block and 50,000,000 cpm = less likely to find the same block... still chance for either, just more likely with more cpm...

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1198 on: February 04, 2014, 10:00:19 pm »
yup

pts is dominated by gpu
It sure is. Unless you have access to free cores/electricity or you own a very powerful CPU, then mining PTS won't earn you many PTS at all.

The good thing about the fastest GPU miner is that it points to beer. Getting over 8000 CPM with 4x 280X.

Oh, and thanks for still hanging in there and providing this pool for us with big brother being...SO much bigger. We're still chugging away and finding blocks, and more PTS can be earned at beer mainly because of generously low fees compared to other pools. Thanks!  8)



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in theory, more cpm for the entire pool, means more blocks will be found, however they will each be a lower payout as its now spread out among more cpm... but averaging out, more blocks despite being lower pay, would ultimately equate the same level of pay as before... in theory...
this would be true, when the overall power of the network wouldn't increase, but just the pool

but

that's not the case. with the new implementations for GPUs the overall network power has increased.
thus the difficulty was increasing to let the network stay at the desired block rate (there are not more blocks found!!)
thus the number of shares needed to find a block has increased too
thus you proportion of the overall network, which is the most important indicator for your payout, is decreasing (if you're still using the same miner/hardware)

i hope that was helpful. :)

- xolokram
Yeah, spot on. Obviously it may also affect the value of PTS. Hopefully in a positive way. ;)
« Last Edit: February 04, 2014, 10:05:22 pm by montecristo83 »

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Re: [ANN] ptsweb.beeeeer.org - Protoshares mining sub-pool
« Reply #1199 on: February 06, 2014, 03:37:39 pm »
Hello!
PTC decided to take prey with the aid of Digital ocean. Did everything in accordance with the instructions on the site http://protoshares.com/mining.html # dac. Putty displays a message [MASTER] work received - sharetarget: 00ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffbeefde4d
What does this mean?