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Thank you for the clarification. Would you be able to give a rough estimate of that setup cost either as % of the ICO receipts or a £ figure?

A rough estimate would be around 3% for Legals, valuations, finders fee (if property comes through an agent), small improvements etc.
In addition to this there is then SDLT (stamp duty / land tax) that is 4%, so 7% in total as an estimate. These costs would vary depending on the size of the property purchased. These figures are also taken into account / included when calculating the gross return.

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Thank you for the clarification. Would you be able to give a rough estimate of that setup cost either as % of the ICO receipts or a £ figure?

A rough estimate would be around 3% for Legals, valuations, finders fee (if property comes through an agent), small improvements etc.
In addition to this there is then SDLT (stamp duty / land tax) that is 4%, so 7% in total as an estimate. These costs would vary depending on the size of the property purchased. These figures are also taken into account / included when calculating the gross return.

Thank you!

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Important update
After listening to the community we have great news to announce!
In addition to the buy back and burn policy we are now also offering a profit share to anyone who takes part in the ICO or that holds Kexcoin at the end of the buy back / burn period. If you do both, you benefit twice!
So how will it work?
When the ICO ends, we will take a snap shot (within 48hrs of ending) of all of the accounts that hold Kexcoins on the bitshares network making note of the account and the sum of Kexcoin held.
The ICO will be deemed to have ended either by selling out of Kexcoin or reaching the end date (14.59 UTC 14th October 2017).
In order to qualify you must hold Kexcoin on account at the time of this snapshot.
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You hold Kexcoin at the end of the buy back / burn period (again a snap shot will be taken).
If you hold Kexcoin at the point of both snapshots you will benefit twice.
What is the profit share?
The profit share will be calculated as 50% of the increase in property value from the initial purchase price.
Simple example - if £50m of property is initially purchased and by the end of the buy back period the said property is valued at £110m the sum paid back to ICO participants and Kexcoin holders at the end of the buy back period would be £30m (£110m - 50m = £60m x 50% = £30m) Please note taxes and costs of sale would be deducted.
How will this be distributed?
The number of Kexcoin sold at the ICO and the number held at the end of the buy back period will be added together and the profit share will be divided equally by this number. It will then be paid to the accounts noted on the snapshots.

This is our thanks to all that support us and participate in the project.
 

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Important update
After listening to the community we have great news to announce!
In addition to the buy back and burn policy we are now also offering a profit share to anyone who takes part in the ICO or that holds Kexcoin at the end of the buy back / burn period. If you do both, you benefit twice!
So how will it work?
When the ICO ends, we will take a snap shot (within 48hrs of ending) of all of the accounts that hold Kexcoins on the bitshares network making note of the account and the sum of Kexcoin held.
The ICO will be deemed to have ended either by selling out of Kexcoin or reaching the end date (14.59 UTC 14th October 2017).
In order to qualify you must hold Kexcoin on account at the time of this snapshot.
OR
You hold Kexcoin at the end of the buy back / burn period (again a snap shot will be taken).
If you hold Kexcoin at the point of both snapshots you will benefit twice.
What is the profit share?
The profit share will be calculated as 50% of the increase in property value from the initial purchase price.
Simple example - if £50m of property is initially purchased and by the end of the buy back period the said property is valued at £110m the sum paid back to ICO participants and Kexcoin holders at the end of the buy back period would be £30m (£110m - 50m = £60m x 50% = £30m) Please note taxes and costs of sale would be deducted.
How will this be distributed?
The number of Kexcoin sold at the ICO and the number held at the end of the buy back period will be added together and the profit share will be divided equally by this number. It will then be paid to the accounts noted on the snapshots.

This is our thanks to all that support us and participate in the project.
 

WOW. That makes things really interesting.

I'm trying to figure out what the formula is for what you have described above. As far as I can tell it is....

Myshare = ((myICOKexQty + myKexQtyPostBB) / (TotalICOKex + TotalPostBBKex))  X (PropertyIncrease / 2)

Is that right?




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WOW. That makes things really interesting.

I'm trying to figure out what the formula is for what you have described above. As far as I can tell it is....

Myshare = ((myICOKexQty + myKexQtyPostBB) / (TotalICOKex + TotalPostBBKex))  X (PropertyIncrease / 2)

Is that right?


Yes this would be correct as long as your TotalICOKex + TotalPostBBKex excludes the kexcoin held by the core team or the contingency.

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Thanks for your assistance so far. I am trying to estimate what the total property portfolio could be after 30 years.

With the current price of bitcoin of around £3300, if all kexcoins sell in the ICO at the minimum price that gives a portfolio of around £70m

Given a gross yield of 11%, costs at 27.5% of yield and rent increases of 4% p/a I've calculated a total portfolio value after 30 years of just over £600m

I just wanted to check, am I way off or is this in line with your forecasts?



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Thanks for your assistance so far. I am trying to estimate what the total property portfolio could be after 30 years.

With the current price of bitcoin of around £3300, if all kexcoins sell in the ICO at the minimum price that gives a portfolio of around £70m

Given a gross yield of 11%, costs at 27.5% of yield and rent increases of 4% p/a I've calculated a total portfolio value after 30 years of just over £600m

I just wanted to check, am I way off or is this in line with your forecasts?


While it is impossible to tell the future, your figures are certainly possible. Some research into property price inflation over the past 30 years may show that this is on the low side. Also researching some of the properties that Kexgill have owned for more than 30 years and sold recently would project figures far in excess of your figure.

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While it is impossible to tell the future, your figures are certainly possible. Some research into property price inflation over the past 30 years may show that this is on the low side. Also researching some of the properties that Kexgill have owned for more than 30 years and sold recently would project figures far in excess of your figure.

Thanks for your quick response. You've been so very patient!

Yes I see my mistake. You said that the yield increases over time because rents go up but of course the yield is calculated on the original purchase price not the current market value of the property. Would you say that rent prices are pretty much following the property value increase over time? IE rents go up by the same % as the property value or do they outstrip even that?


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Thanks for your quick response. You've been so very patient!

Yes I see my mistake. You said that the yield increases over time because rents go up but of course the yield is calculated on the original purchase price not the current market value of the property. Would you say that rent prices are pretty much following the property value increase over time? IE rents go up by the same % as the property value or do they outstrip even that?

No problem, happy to help!
You like the impossible questions don't you? Look at it this way:

1) A standard landlord would set their return rate depending on the value of the property that they purchased and the amount that they pay back to the banks (through interest rates set over and above the Bank of England base rate / LIBOR). We don't have to do this and are much more free / unaffected by interest rate rises. Individual Landlords would be free to accept the return rate that they see fit and the market price / return could be very much competitor dependent.
2) Each year we would still look for the same return. For example, if we purchased property in Year 1 we would be looking for gross returns (obviously as high as possible) but lets say 15%. In year 25 we would still be looking for the same return (or higher - market dependent). Obviously by year 25 the return rate on the year 1 property would be huge as it would be commanding the same rents as the property purchased in year 25 but the purchase price would be significantly smaller (like for like).
3) Like Bitcoin property prices go through steep rises in price and sudden falls in price however, this is usually over a much longer time frame and is therefore not volatile in the same respect. Rent prices tend to increase with property prices but not necessarily with the falls in price.

In answer to your question, rent prices do tend to go up with property prices and they can also outstrip this.

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We are pleased to announce that the kexcoin token will be accepted as payment towards rents in all Kexcoin and Kexgill group properties, available from the moment the ICO finishes. By giving kexcoin a usage as a commodity we hope to expand the transaction volume and liquidity of the token, with the aim to roll out this payment system across other student service providers.

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A new version of the Kexcoin whitepaper v1.08 has just been released. Kexcoins are now spendable by domestic and international students for their rent payments.

Here's the announcement:
http://bit.ly/2eLckT6
« Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 02:43:48 pm by MarketingMonk »

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Hello Kexcoin!  Did I read somewhere that you were going to post a model analysis here on bitsharestalk.org?  I quickly read through the thread and didn't see it.  Please excuse if I missed it.

Thanks!
David

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Hello Kexcoin!  Did I read somewhere that you were going to post a model analysis here on bitsharestalk.org?  I quickly read through the thread and didn't see it.  Please excuse if I missed it.

They have been completed and will be available shortly.

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Thanks!

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You asked for it, now here it is. #Kexcoin Financial Model - Demonstration / Mock Projections:
http://bit.ly/2eHd3aU