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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2018, 03:46:44 pm »
This topic is for "[Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness", the correct place to discuss is at "Witness Report for Verbaltech2":
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23902.0.html

Anyway, I suggest both of you settle the issue privately. What both of you share here may misused by someone else to call a public unvote, we can't lose both of you.
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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2018, 04:40:13 pm »
This topic is for "[Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness", the correct place to discuss is at "Witness Report for Verbaltech2":
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,23902.0.html

Anyway, I suggest both of you settle the issue privately. What both of you share here may misused by someone else to call a public unvote, we can't lose both of you.

Point noted, however abit made it a point to attack my abilities here, so here is where I refute them. He has chosen not to respond to my DMs, and seems to be less in favor of talking to me to and "working this out".
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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2018, 04:15:42 am »
plan to adopt below feed price algorithm to replace the current one:

Pdex:BTS price in DEX in smartcoin
Pf: current feed price
premium: current premium

scale=1;
get Pdex, Pf, premium;

while True:
   
   get Pdex, Pf, premium;
   if 0.3%>premium>-0.5%: ##just adopt the current median if the absolute premium is low enough.
       feed price = Pf;
   else:
       feed price = Pf*(1+premium*scale);
   time.sleep(120); ##update every 2 minutes.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 04:26:20 am by bitcrab »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2018, 08:03:38 am »
What are your thoughts on enforcing not a 1:1 peg, but one with a constant premium? There have been discussions on it in telegram and I tend to agree that a small constant positive premium will behave more stable than 1:1.

In your algorithm that would correlate to something like

Code: [Select]
   ...
   target_premium = 0.5%; // arbitrary number, chosen here to reflect the lower bound of allowed premium to be 0

   get Pdex, Pf, premium;
   premium = premium - target_premium;
   ...
« Last Edit: October 31, 2018, 08:08:47 am by sschiessl »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2018, 08:29:54 am »
What are your thoughts on enforcing not a 1:1 peg, but one with a constant premium? There have been discussions on it in telegram and I tend to agree that a small constant positive premium will behave more stable than 1:1.

In your algorithm that would correlate to something like

Code: [Select]
   ...
   target_premium = 0.5%; // arbitrary number, chosen here to reflect the lower bound of allowed premium to be 0

   get Pdex, Pf, premium;
   premium = premium - target_premium;
   ...

in current bitCNY situation, your algorithm will make feed price even lower. maybe that will lead to better pegging, but will make more margin call happen which seems not so necessary. this may be not good as now feed price is already more than 2% lower than DEX price in bitCNY market.

I prefer to accept a premium between -0.5% and 0.3% with adopt the current median.

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2018, 04:17:17 am »
plan for next update on bitCNY:

Pdex:BTS price in DEX in smartcoin
Pf: current feed price
premium: current premium
GS_price: global settlement price

scale= 0.5;
get Pdex, Pf, premium, GS_price;

black_swan_protection_price = GS_price*MSSR*1.01

while True:
   
   get Pdex, Pf, premium;
   if 0.5%>premium>-1%: ##just adopt the current median if the absolute premium is low enough.
       feed price = Pf;
   else:
       feed price = Pf*(1+premium*scale);
   feed price = min(feed price, Pdex*MSSR)
   feed price = max(feed price, Pdex, black_swan_protection_price)
 
   time.sleep(120); ##update every 2 minutes.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2018, 04:19:06 am by bitcrab »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2018, 09:40:16 am »
as in the Poll of bsip41 - worker proposals  1.14.144 and 1.14.155, far more voting power support to implement bsip41, gdex-witness plan to feed 1.05 as MSSR for bitCNY in 2 days.

bsip41: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0041.md

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2018, 01:32:33 pm »




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« Last Edit: December 21, 2018, 08:11:22 am by Thul3 »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2018, 01:41:44 pm »
The POLL is NO CONSENSUS.

You are BREAKING ALL RULES AS WITNESS !!!!!!

You have no right to change MSSR without creating a worker which will get voted in.

I will make sure that all witnesses which will change MSSR without a REAL community consensus will lose their voters.

he is talking about the on-chain poll

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #39 on: December 19, 2018, 01:44:10 pm »
The POLL is NO CONSENSUS.

You are BREAKING ALL RULES AS WITNESS !!!!!!

You have no right to change MSSR without creating a worker which will get voted in.

I will make sure that all witnesses which will change MSSR without a REAL community consensus will lose their voters.

he is talking about the on-chain poll

I know the NO BSIP42 is a clear signal to stop manipulation and that people want the margin to get eaten.What he is doing now is not changing price feed and lowering the MSSR back to 105% so margins won't be eaten anymore.
Also he is the only bigger proxy voting for BSIP41 so i doubt this is real consensus.

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #40 on: December 19, 2018, 02:22:08 pm »
The POLL is NO CONSENSUS.

You are BREAKING ALL RULES AS WITNESS !!!!!!

You have no right to change MSSR without creating a worker which will get voted in.

I will make sure that all witnesses which will change MSSR without a REAL community consensus will lose their voters.

he is talking about the on-chain poll

I know the NO BSIP42 is a clear signal to stop manipulation and that people want the margin to get eaten.What he is doing now is not changing price feed and lowering the MSSR back to 105% so margins won't be eaten anymore.
Also he is the only bigger proxy voting for BSIP41 so i doubt this is real consensus.

margin call orders are there at the top for long time, if bitCNY holders want to eat, they had done, if they won't, no need always let the margin call orders press the price and create high bitCNY premium.

bitcrab has only about 30M voting power, everyone can know whether I am the only big proxy to support bsip41.

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #41 on: December 19, 2018, 06:43:33 pm »
There is a high possibility that this is a bull trap.Actually the possibility is bigger being a bulld trap than a bull.
Reducing MSSR back to 105% makes that should the price go down again no margin will be eaten again.
The same mistake as before.
If you want MSSR 105% (which i support on acurat price feed as it make sense) make first sure to provide real feed price to ensure margin orders being eaten in a down trend.
At current price feed situation its just a protection for margins to not get eaten.

EDIT : Just saw it seems BTS on bitcny have now real price.

« Last Edit: December 19, 2018, 08:04:58 pm by Thul3 »

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #42 on: December 19, 2018, 08:49:32 pm »
as in the Poll of bsip41 - worker proposals  1.14.144 and 1.14.155, far more voting power support to implement bsip41, gdex-witness plan to feed 1.05 as MSSR for bitCNY in 2 days.

bsip41: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0041.md
Sorry, I will vote for no until these wrong feed price been voted out.
I don't think witness should execute it until it become an active worker.

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #43 on: December 20, 2018, 01:40:57 am »
as in the Poll of bsip41 - worker proposals  1.14.144 and 1.14.155, far more voting power support to implement bsip41, gdex-witness plan to feed 1.05 as MSSR for bitCNY in 2 days.

bsip41: https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/blob/master/bsip-0041.md
Sorry, I will vote for no until these wrong feed price been voted out.
I don't think witness should execute it until it become an active worker.

Cancellation of BSIP42 and execution of BSIP41 can be carried out at the same time. If cancellation of BSIP42 is not well executed after you support BSIP41, you can cancel the ticket of BSIP41 without much impact

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Re: [Witness Proposal] gdex-witnness
« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2018, 08:51:14 am »
this is a poll with 2 worker proposals, not a budget based worker proposal.

here the essential point is which WP get more voting power, not whether the WP become active.