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Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« on: December 20, 2018, 03:26:47 am »
the Bitshares network is so bad in the past several days, always cost several mins to open a page!

what cause this? API servers are degraded? GUI bugs?


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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2018, 03:45:48 am »
the Bitshares network is so bad in the past several days, always cost several mins to open a page!

what cause this? API servers are degraded? GUI bugs?
check how many accounts exist in your wallet.
if there are many strange account, it's a bug of GUI which I have met several days ago, it consider any accounts with the same address as your account, and subscribe too many data from api server.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2018, 04:00:40 am »
the Bitshares network is so bad in the past several days, always cost several mins to open a page!

what cause this? API servers are degraded? GUI bugs?
check how many accounts exist in your wallet.
if there are many strange account, it's a bug of GUI which I have met several days ago, it consider any accounts with the same address as your account, and subscribe too many data from api server.

thanks, yes it is this issue, I haven't seen the strange accounts but everything is well when I switch to my another wallet...

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2018, 04:51:54 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 06:32:20 am by clockwork »

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2018, 06:57:33 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2018, 07:01:12 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2018, 07:07:43 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
no thanks.
I thought we should pay for a professional worker.
I wonder who can tell me which version is really usable.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 07:51:15 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
no thanks.
I thought we should pay for a professional worker.
I wonder who can tell me which version is really usable.

you can either keep dissing the worker or help make it better, your call

If you don't provide details/bug report it can't be fixed

(fwiw, mine runs with 15 different accounts loaded and appears to work fine)

There are 2 possible reasons for your problem:

a) There was a change recently on the subscription behaviour of bitshares-core. Copying from teh release notes:

"Operators of API nodes that service client software that expect to receive updates about all data on the blockchain by default (such as BitShares Reference Wallet before 180401), as opposed to narrowly subscribed data, should ensure that their API nodes are configured with the enable-subscribe-to-all set to true due to Pull Request 1049."

So maybe you're connecting to an API node with the subscribe-to-all setting set to true

or

b) This issue recently brought up by abit: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1472

Interestingly, neither of those is a UI issue but core API issues identified and fixed (for (a)...application depends on node operator)  or in the process of being fixed (for (b))

So please don't spread false accusations.


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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 08:37:12 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
no thanks.
I thought we should pay for a professional worker.
I wonder who can tell me which version is really usable.

you can either keep dissing the worker or help make it better, your call

If you don't provide details/bug report it can't be fixed

(fwiw, mine runs with 15 different accounts loaded and appears to work fine)

There are 2 possible reasons for your problem:

a) There was a change recently on the subscription behaviour of bitshares-core. Copying from teh release notes:

"Operators of API nodes that service client software that expect to receive updates about all data on the blockchain by default (such as BitShares Reference Wallet before 180401), as opposed to narrowly subscribed data, should ensure that their API nodes are configured with the enable-subscribe-to-all set to true due to Pull Request 1049."

So maybe you're connecting to an API node with the subscribe-to-all setting set to true

or

b) This issue recently brought up by abit: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1472

Interestingly, neither of those is a UI issue but core API issues identified and fixed (for (a)...application depends on node operator)  or in the process of being fixed (for (b))

So please don't spread false accusations.
can you tell me which stable version do you use?
when I met a problem, I try to change another version, almost every stable version has different problems after I try less than  several minutes.
I think there are no need to report bug for such unstable software, they need to test themself, it's a job with payment, not a hobit job.

for the issue brought by abit, it's also the GUI's job of course, they used a wrong design, used a wrong api.
when I tell the wallet that my account is alt, it just need to subscribe infomation about alt, I never told it to subscribe other account with the same key.
eventually, it even bring those junk account to my default list of transfer function. such stupid.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2018, 08:47:07 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
no thanks.
I thought we should pay for a professional worker.
I wonder who can tell me which version is really usable.

you can either keep dissing the worker or help make it better, your call

If you don't provide details/bug report it can't be fixed

(fwiw, mine runs with 15 different accounts loaded and appears to work fine)

There are 2 possible reasons for your problem:

a) There was a change recently on the subscription behaviour of bitshares-core. Copying from teh release notes:

"Operators of API nodes that service client software that expect to receive updates about all data on the blockchain by default (such as BitShares Reference Wallet before 180401), as opposed to narrowly subscribed data, should ensure that their API nodes are configured with the enable-subscribe-to-all set to true due to Pull Request 1049."

So maybe you're connecting to an API node with the subscribe-to-all setting set to true

or

b) This issue recently brought up by abit: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1472

Interestingly, neither of those is a UI issue but core API issues identified and fixed (for (a)...application depends on node operator)  or in the process of being fixed (for (b))

So please don't spread false accusations.
can you tell me which stable version do you use?
when I met a problem, I try to change another version, almost every stable version has different problems after I try less than  several minutes.
I think there are no need to report bug for such unstable software, they need to test themself, it's a job with payment, not a hobit job.

for the issue brought by abit, it's also the GUI's job of course, they used a wrong design, used a wrong api.
when I tell the wallet that my account is alt, it just need to subscribe infomation about alt, I never told it to subscribe other account with the same key.
eventually, it even bring those junk account to my default list of transfer function. such stupid.

I use the web wallet primarily (and usually the develop branch at develop.bitshares.org in order to spot issues before they make it to staging and release)

Most people (like me) don't want to have to load a different wallet each time they want to use a different account which is why that design was chosen. I don't consider it wrong.

I have my main account, and any account that has my account or my key in its authorities is accessible from the top right menu.

I have not spotted any issues yet.

How many accounts does your UI load up? Are those accounts that have bots running on them? maybe that causes such increased activity and the issues you're dealing with.

I know you don't trust workers (as evident by your voting slate) but please, It's only through your feedback and reports that things can improve.




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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2018, 08:52:42 am »
Which version client are you guys using?
I have tried almost 10 different "stable" versions recently published,
but almost no one can be used in fact
I wonder who are the manage of the GUI development worker, too bad.
Bug reports can go here:
https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-ui/issues/
no thanks.
I thought we should pay for a professional worker.
I wonder who can tell me which version is really usable.

you can either keep dissing the worker or help make it better, your call

If you don't provide details/bug report it can't be fixed

(fwiw, mine runs with 15 different accounts loaded and appears to work fine)

There are 2 possible reasons for your problem:

a) There was a change recently on the subscription behaviour of bitshares-core. Copying from teh release notes:

"Operators of API nodes that service client software that expect to receive updates about all data on the blockchain by default (such as BitShares Reference Wallet before 180401), as opposed to narrowly subscribed data, should ensure that their API nodes are configured with the enable-subscribe-to-all set to true due to Pull Request 1049."

So maybe you're connecting to an API node with the subscribe-to-all setting set to true

or

b) This issue recently brought up by abit: https://github.com/bitshares/bitshares-core/issues/1472

Interestingly, neither of those is a UI issue but core API issues identified and fixed (for (a)...application depends on node operator)  or in the process of being fixed (for (b))

So please don't spread false accusations.
can you tell me which stable version do you use?
when I met a problem, I try to change another version, almost every stable version has different problems after I try less than  several minutes.
I think there are no need to report bug for such unstable software, they need to test themself, it's a job with payment, not a hobit job.

for the issue brought by abit, it's also the GUI's job of course, they used a wrong design, used a wrong api.
when I tell the wallet that my account is alt, it just need to subscribe infomation about alt, I never told it to subscribe other account with the same key.
eventually, it even bring those junk account to my default list of transfer function. such stupid.

Im using keyfile + hosted wallet (wallet.bitshares.org or staging.bitshares.org), but for this specific request I've downloaded latest RC and installed without an issue. Accounts are being properly displayed, but i had to update the node.

Please try selecting some of these nodes if you're based in Asia:

wss://singapore.bitshares.apasia.tech/ws
wss://japan.bitshares.apasia.tech/ws
wss://sg.nodes.bitshares.ws

All 3 above are coming from 2 different Workers on chain and are 90% time up2date and available.


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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2018, 08:56:13 am »
Which version client are you guys using?

2.0.181010

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2018, 09:02:18 am »
also suggest: wss://bts-seoul.clockwork.gr for Asia-based users

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2018, 09:15:51 am »
Being investigated.

Thanks bitcrab/alt for bringing this to attention.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2018, 09:19:18 am »
alt: see forum PM

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2018, 09:22:08 am »
Which version client are you guys using?

2.0.181010

Please, can you try latest 2.0.181212-rc1 ?
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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2018, 09:29:48 am »
Which version client are you guys using?

2.0.181010

Please, can you try latest 2.0.181212-rc1 ?

same issue, from 2.0.181010 upwards

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2018, 09:33:59 am »
can you tell me which stable version do you use?
when I met a problem, I try to change another version, almost every stable version has different problems after I try less than  several minutes.
I think there are no need to report bug for such unstable software, they need to test themself, it's a job with payment, not a hobit job.

for the issue brought by abit, it's also the GUI's job of course, they used a wrong design, used a wrong api.
when I tell the wallet that my account is alt, it just need to subscribe infomation about alt, I never told it to subscribe other account with the same key.
eventually, it even bring those junk account to my default list of transfer function. such stupid.

Appreciate any feedback, and I do agree with your basic sentiment. Since I have been quite active as a dev for the UI worker the past months I'd like to craft a reply.

The UI worker is a prime example of a decentralized worker that requires community feedback (beauty and curse). There is no fixed team besides Bill Butler (Manager), Startail (Issue review) and Sigve (Code review, I am currently doing that in Sigve's absence). The UI worker is structured primarily over GitHub issues that are driven by the community. This allow the worker to move the UI in the exact direction the community wants it to go, with the downside of the lack of a centralized lead that enforces a Roadmap. Any developer can pick up issues and contribute which allows the worker to be very flexible, while it brings the problems of possible regression and (up until recently) lack of testing.

I am actively collecting community feedback in various channels, see e.g. in Steem here: https://steemit.com/@sschiessl and I always have an open ear to critic as well.

To the issue of testing: The reference wallet has a massive abundance of features built-in, and testing it is no easy task. I totally agree with you on the notion though, that is why I have introduced explicit and mandatory integration testing for release candidates before every release. See the last two

The release 181212 is currently delayed because the integration tests are not completed yet. I would happily open a dialogue with you to see in what way you would consider supporting the UI worker.

Stefan

P.S. In the recent update we have included "Spotlight" into the UI which is used to highlight use-cases of the BitShares Blockchain outside of having a native DEX. This is done to enhance the value proposition to BTS outside of being collateral for stable coins.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2018, 11:01:47 am »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw  a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2018, 02:35:50 pm »
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.
now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.
Rewarding testing/bug-reports is out of scope of the ui workers, avoid 'release candidate' or 'staging' releases if you're only wanting to run 'stable/usable' versions. You should most certainly be updating your UI to the latest stable whenever possible otherwise you're a target.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2018, 03:31:51 pm »
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.
now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.
Rewarding testing/bug-reports is out of scope of the ui workers, avoid 'release candidate' or 'staging' releases if you're only wanting to run 'stable/usable' versions. You should most certainly be updating your UI to the latest stable whenever possible otherwise you're a target.

He means that even a stable release contains bugs, not even talking about the candidates.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2018, 05:58:27 pm »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw  a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

Just curious have you worked on the GUI? What constitutes as a professional team? What if we stopped working on it, and shut everything down? Would you like to take over and do ALL the development work? Do you think you can do better??? Would you rather help than point fingers and make a fuss, which barely does anything other than delay progress? I bet I can't convince you, but really it's as professional as it can be for a decentralized, hard working, dedicated, and knowledgeable team.

I hope you come around for Bitshares sake. Right now the worker's out, which could be very bad for the future of this platform.
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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2018, 12:10:32 am »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw  a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

Just curious have you worked on the GUI? What constitutes as a professional team? What if we stopped working on it, and shut everything down? Would you like to take over and do ALL the development work? Do you think you can do better??? Would you rather help than point fingers and make a fuss, which barely does anything other than delay progress? I bet I can't convince you, but really it's as professional as it can be for a decentralized, hard working, dedicated, and knowledgeable team.

I hope you come around for Bitshares sake. Right now the worker's out, which could be very bad for the future of this platform.
Don't be surprised, he will only say NO NO NO to proposals that are good for the BTS

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2018, 12:36:24 pm »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw  a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release, and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

Well, what about Rossul / GL worker? http://bitshares.rossul.com/
Design team are real professionals with a lot of experience in UX and UI. Not a usual team from crypro but from real world. Their clients PepsiCo, Boeing and others https://www.rossul.com/
Development team are professionals in BitShares and blockchain. Work with core and UI in blockchain projects from 2017 https://graphenelab.io/
We also work closely with the current UI team so as not to miss anything

We would be happy to answer all your questions.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2018, 01:56:48 pm »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsible for the whole development process include management/design/implement/test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

We are in the middle of the design and development process. You can see the current stage on the roadmap - http://bitshares.rossul.com/

I can walk you through what's been designed so far, and answer any question if you like.

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2018, 03:08:54 pm »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsible for the whole development process include management/design/implement/test.

now all I can see is several unusable "stable" release and seems nobody can tell me which one is the really stable/usable version.

We are in the middle of the design and development process. You can see the current stage on the roadmap - http://bitshares.rossul.com/

I can walk you through what's been designed so far, and answer any question if you like.

Hoping to see this in January

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Re: Why the BTS network status is so bad these days?
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2019, 04:34:28 pm »
I will support the GUI worker when I saw  a professional team.
I mean we can get a really usable product from the worker's job.
the team need to be responsable for the whole development process include management / design / implement / test.

take a look please https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=26875.msg327172#msg327172