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Announcement of cn-vote Union

In the current bearish market, the BTS price has been low for a long time. We believe it is the time for the DAC to cut the expense and reduce inflation. Therefore, the cn-vote Union members have concluded an agreement to:

Re-evaluate and Review our support of the following Worker Proposals:
  • bitshares-mobile-app
  • wirex-integration
  • uccs-research-project
  • DEXBot WP3

We call on all the workers to timely publish updates of their progress and accounting information on a regular basis to the DAC, especially the Chinese community (including the cn-vote union). We the cn-vote Union will evaluate each worker by lasting value to the DAC upon receipt of updates.

P.S. The bitshares-mobile-app worker has contacted cn-vote representative and they are doing good with public disclosure of project updates. We believe that their work is productive and the mobile app is very useful. It brings significant new users and will soon use the DAC faucet resulting in more income for the DAC. The cn-vote Union members have concluded an agreement to support the bitshares-mobile-app worker.


cn-vote Union
08/15/2019




中文版:

cn-vote 工会声明

由于市场行情低迷,BTS 价值长期在低位徘徊,本着开源节流的原则,cn-vote 工会成员达成一致,决定:

对以下提案重新审核。
  • bitshares-mobile-app
  • wirex-integration
  • uccs-research-project
  • DEXBot WP3

我们期待各提案项目方及时主动向社区,尤其是包括 cn-vote 在内的中文社区沟通其工作进展、资金使用情况等,提供足够多的信息供工会成员重新判断其是否对 DAC 有持久价值。
   
注:bitshares-mobile-app 团队已经与 cn-vote 对接人进行了充分的沟通,并在公开渠道有充分的信息披露。经讨论认为:其工作成效明显,开发手机软件实用性较强,带来明显流量,并将正在推进的社区官方版本设置为官方水龙头,为系统带来更多收益。工会达成共识予以支持。


cn-vote 社区工会
08/15/2019



Tong Shen, Coordinator Assistant, Core Team | 沈瞳,BitShares Core 开发团队 协调员助理
Spark Blockchain | 星火区块链:北美领先的区块链咨询及孵化公司 https://sparkincu.com/
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Offline tshen

Dear Workers,

There have been a lot of discussions about cn-vote's action to vote for refund400k recently. Several community members reached out to me. I had thorough conversations with the cn-vote members and was authorized to help the cn-vote Union post this announcement.

Because of the language barrier, the disagreement between the Chinese and English communities and the lack of communication has been there for a long time. I want to help with this problem by facilitating better communication. If you find it hard to understand or express to the other side, I'm happy to help you.

Let's work together for a more connected community.


Regards,
Tong Shen

Telegram: @cnjsstong
WeChat / 微信: cnjsstong
Tong Shen, Coordinator Assistant, Core Team | 沈瞳,BitShares Core 开发团队 协调员助理
Spark Blockchain | 星火区块链:北美领先的区块链咨询及孵化公司 https://sparkincu.com/
WeChat | 微信号: cnjsstong

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(虽然我发布这条回复的账号是个新账号)这个账号(https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36434)是我以前在 bitsharestalk 论坛的账号,Hero Member 级别,共发布过 606 个帖子, 但这个账号现在我无法登陆了。

DEXBot 开源项目:
www.github.com/codaone/DEXBot
DEXBot 给 cn-vote 的进展报告

这是记录 DEXBot 项目费用支出的文档:https://1drv.ms/x/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJagkgB81_-drYTh4
自从一个月前,cn-vote 工会给 DEXBot 投票后,我们便开始了将 DEXBot 的维基文档翻译成中文和俄文的准备工作:https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJbhi2VJQgzFDTl90

在 cn-vote 工会的支持下,如果 DEXBot 能够持续获得资金支持,我们就能继续完成这项工作。

我们已经联系了 @btslinda 来做相关文档的翻译。

DEXBot 团队正在大规模开发 pybitshares 工具库,加强用于计算和更快地下订单的异步功能,以支持竞争性套利功能的使用。这一功能将为 DEX 带来流动性,尤其是 bitCNY 市场。
这项开发工作当前正在进行中。

传统套利功能说明文档:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJaePNQU7T4aPfJiQ
文档摘录:

DEXBot 将使用 Ccxt 工具库,允许一次性访问 135 家中心化交易所(CEX)。这包括了币安和绝大多数大型交易所。
查看支持的交易所的完整名单:https://github.com/ccxt/ccxt/blob/master/wiki/Exchange-Markets.md
为什么比特股需要套利?

套利可以带来更大的交易量、更好的价格发现效果、更小的价差。套利机器人会接受好的报价,并鼓励做市商尽可能地给出接近去中心化交易所( DEX)中订单簿上市场价格的报价。交易量越大(部分交易量由套利机器人增加),做市商的资金周转就越频繁,也就更加吸引交易者参与做市。

为什么比特股需要与其他交易所相连接?

因为套利的原理是利用不同市场上资产的价格差异或变化滞后来赚取利润,所以要实现套利,需要至少可以访问两个不同的交易所。

DEXBot 的套利功能应该怎么运作?它应该遵循什么样的逻辑?

DEXBot 应该具备至少能在另外两家交易所的订单簿上发布订单的能力。
这两家交易所中必须有一家是 BitShares DEX。

“镜像”套利功能说明文档:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJbAbWTiR_BEQW4WM

文档摘录:

镜像套利与传统套利相似,不同之处在于镜像套利包括了一个限价订单和一个市价订单,而传统套利则包括两个市价订单。

传统套利注重抓住套利机会,而套利机会的引发是由在两个不同的交易所的两个交易员发出的两个限价订单。

镜像套利则是分析 交易所 1  (CEX) 的已有订单,并在 交易所 2  (DEX) 发布一个限价订单;如果交易完成,DEXBot 就可以在 交易所 1  吃单,实现盈利。DEXBot 需要阅读 CEX  的订单,通过在 DEX 上发布限价订单,并仅在 DEX 限价订单完成时才对 CEX 采取行动,从而预测/提前获得套利机会。

DEXBot 支持 BitShares DEX 上的流动性和交易活动,因此发出限价订单的交易所为 DEX,而发出市价订单的交易所则为 CEX。

CEX 的订单簿将是动态的,并且会不断变化,因此 DEX 上的限价订单也需要根据更新后的 CEX 订单进行下单、取消或替换的操作——在一定的误差范围内,以减少不必要的微小订单更改所浪费的费用。

DEXBot 必须以最小的延迟来及时掌握 CEX 订单簿的状态,并且尽可能频繁的更新。

DEXBot 会持续监控 CEX 的订单簿信息,并根据 CEX 价格按照百分比的偏移量,利用相关数据在 DEX 上下限价订单。

可视化工具

可视化工具正在开发中,但最近由于 DEXBot 被投票落选资助而暂停。可视化工具将能够使交易进展一目了然,从而让我们能够简便地评判 DEXBot 的交易竞争情况。

https://github.com/JRizzly/BitsharesRealTimeAccountTracker
https://github.com/Codaone/DEXBot/tree/dash-graphs

单元测试

BitProfessor(@教授) 一直在对 DEXBot 代码进行详尽的单元测试,并在中国比特股社区中进行了小规模的宣传。





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Here is my orginal bitsharestalk profile, from which I am locked out. Hero Member, 606 posts: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=36434

DEXBot:
www.github.com/codaone/DEXBot

DEXBot Update for cn-vote

DEXBot has a google doc documenting expenses here: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJagkgB81_-drYTh4

Since cn-vote gave DEXBot it’s vote one month ago preparation to translate DEXBot wiki  documentation into Mandarin and Russian have begun: https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJbhi2VJQgzFDTl90

With cn-vote’s support and DEXBot receiving continued funding for DEXBot we can continue with this effort.

@btslinda has been contacted about doing this translation work

DEXBot is undertaking extensive development of pybitshares to develop asynchronous capability to calculate and place orders faster to support the use of competitive Arbitrage features which will bring liquidity to the DEX, most notably the bitCNY markets.
This development is being worked on right now.

Traditional Arbitrage Feature Specification:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJaePNQU7T4aPfJiQ

Excerpt:
    DEXBot will use Ccxt which allows access to 135 CEX’s in one go. Binance and most of the big ones are included.
See the full list here: https://github.com/ccxt/ccxt/blob/master/wiki/Exchange-Markets.md

Why does Bitshares want arbitrage?

Trade volume, better price discovery, tighter spreads as arb bots will take good offers and encourage market makers to have offers close to the market price on the DEX orderbooks as often as possible. The higher the volume of trading, in part increased by arb bots, allows market makers to turn over their capital more frequently thus making market making participation more attractive to traders

Why does Bitshares want to connect to other exchanges?

Arbitrage requires access to at least two separate exchanges as it relies on the price discrepancy, or lag, between prices for assets offered in two separate marketplaces.

How should the arbitrage feature on DEXBot operate? What logic should it follow?

DEXBot should have knowledge and ability to post orders on the books of at least two other exchanges.
One of those two exchanges must always be the Bitshares DEX.



“Mirrored” Arbitrage Feature Specification:
https://1drv.ms/w/s!AjNxlbf-fDQJbAbWTiR_BEQW4WM

 Excerpt:
Mirrored Arbitrage is similar to traditional arbitrage except that it involves one limit order and one market order. As opposed to traditional arbitrage which involves two market orders.

Traditional arbitrage lies hidden ready to pounce on an arbitrage opportunity that arises out of two limit orders being placed by other traders on two separate exchanges.

Mirrored Arbitrage instead analyses the orderbook of Exchange-1 (CEX), and places a limit order on Exchange-2 (DEX) that if filled would allow DEXBot to take an offer from Exchange-1 and realise a profit. DEXBot should read the orderbook of the CEX and predict/front-run arbitrage opportunities by placing limit orders on the DEX and only acting on the CEX if the DEX limit-order is filled.

DEXBot supports liquidity and trading activity on the BitShares DEX so the exchange where limit orders are placed will be the DEX and the exchange where market orders are taken will be a CEX.

The orderbook of the CEX will be dynamic and ever changing so the limit orders on the DEX will have to be placed/cancelled and replaced in response to the updated CEX orderbook - within a margin of error to reduce wasting fees on unnecessarily minute order changes.

DEXBot must be aware of the state of the CEX orderbook with minimal time-lag and updated as frequently as is possible.

DEXBot will constantly monitor the CEX’s orderbook information and use the data to place limit orders on the DEX at prices %offset to the CEX.


Visualisation Tools
are under development, but have been halted very recently due to DEXBot being voted out of the funding zone. Visualisations will allow an easy way to judge DEXBot trading competitions, as progress is easily seen at a glance.
https://github.com/JRizzly/BitsharesRealTimeAccountTracker
https://github.com/Codaone/DEXBot/tree/dash-graphs

Unit Testing
BitProfessor has been conducting extensive Unit Testing of DEXBot code and some small PR within the Chinese BitShares community
« Last Edit: August 20, 2019, 10:45:16 am by Permie22 »

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I am still working on having this post translated into Mandarin  :)

Update: The DEXBot post has now been translated into Mandarin thanks to Tong Shen and his team
« Last Edit: August 20, 2019, 10:40:10 am by Permie22 »

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I have uploaded the docs to onedrive so they can be viewed in China

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I am Dr. Philip N. Brown, professor of computer science at the University of Colorado and lead on the 201907-uccs-research-project worker which aims to fund research on BitAssets and create simulation models to help improve price pegging and collateralization for BitAssets.

Current Project Status and activities

Before any funds came to the worker proposal, I wrote a paper to send to the Decentralized 2019 conference; the paper has already been made available to the BitShares community here: http://cs.uccs.edu/~pbrown2/papers/Decentralized_Preprint.pdf.

Work is progressing well. The PhD student who is attached to the project has been learning about financial modeling and this week we'll start developing our BitAsset simulator. The simulator will be a testbed which we will use to look at the effects of different choices of chain parameters, and as time goes on we will expand it to look at more advanced stabilization techniques also.

If the project receives sufficient funding (approximately $40k, to ensure the researcher/student is fully funded for at least one year), we will make sure that the simulation code is available for the BitShares community to use to test various aspects of pegging behavior on their own.

Accounting Information

This worker proposal is a BitShares Blockchain Foundation escrow worker, which means that any community member is free to examine the accounting information at any time: https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-07-uccs-research-project

We have not yet requested a payment from the foundation, since so far only $14,000 has been allocated and it would be considerably better for us to receive a larger amount as our first disbursement.

Project costs

The proposal originally requested $150,000 to fully fund a 2-year project. Approximately half of that money was slated to be used to fund the student's efforts; this means the original proposal asked for about $80,000 to pay for a full-time PhD student/researcher to work on the project for 2 years. The bulk of the remainder of the funds were to be used to pay me to devote some of my summers to the project full-time.

I will continue to stress that $150,000 would set this up as a very successful project, but I also understand that since the BTS price has decreased so much in the past months, the community is now hesitant to part with this much money all at once.

In light of this, I want the cn-vote community to know that this project will give the community results even if it is only funded at a level of $40,000. Even this extremely low level of funding would ensure that the project's student would be fully funded and completely committed to the project for a full year.

Thus, I am asking the cn-vote community to consider voting the research worker back in until at least $40,000 have been raised. At current prices, this should take about 3 weeks, and it would be a good balance between funding the project and reducing BTS inflation. $40,000 would allow us to make significant progress (build a complete simulator for the community to use for experiments, and then analyze the simulation results deeply and draw some conclusions about how to set the chain parameters optimally), and then if the BTS price increases in the future we can introduce a new worker to continue the work.

Some Questions

Q1. If $40,000 is enough for the project to generate value, why does the original proposal ask for $150,000?
A: At universities, students do most of the research work; at my university, a full-time student costs at least $40,000 per year. The extra money was going to be used to "buy my time" from the University so that I could devote large blocks of my time to the project as well. So: $40,000 buys the project a student for a year; $150,000 buys the project a student for 2 years plus a professor (me) full-time for a total of four months. If project costs are cut, I will always sacrifice my time first and keep the student working. However, of course the more effort that is devoted to the project, the more successful it will be.

Q2. Why does this worker ask for all the money at the start of the project?
A: I wish there were a better way to do this, but unfortunately the way research funding works at universities is that the money must be committed at the start of the project. Part of the reason for this is to make sure that the student is confident in their ability to continue working throughout the project. However, the BitShares community needs to understand that my reputation as a professor is at stake if I mis-manage the money: a very important part of my career is that when I tell people I'm going to be able to get research done, I absolutely need to deliver on my promise.

Q3. Why is this worker important for the BitShares community?
A: A (relatively) short answer is this: this worker brings 3 core benefits to the BitShares community.
First, we will provide specific recommendations to the community about how chain parameters such as MCR and MSSR should be chosen, along with detailed simulation results and mathematical analysis to support our recommendations. In turn, when the BitShares community advertises their product, they will be in a very strong position to say "we've had this looked at, and here are all the reasons why we do things the way we do them." This should make BitShares a stronger competitor.
Second, we will publish and present our findings at well-respected academic conferences (and tell everybody that BitShares sponsored us), which will directly increase the global awareness of the BitShares system.
Third, by funding high-level research, BitShares will help to define what kinds of problems are "interesting" and worth studying; when other researchers see money going to a particular topic, it increases their interest in that topic. Of course this benefit is the least tangible, but it really is an important piece of funding university research that many people forget about.

As always, please direct your questions to me and I will do my best to answer them.
Support our research efforts to improve BitAsset price-pegging! Vote for worker 1.14.204 "201907-uccs-research-project."

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Would you consider voting for a smaller refund worker proposal, rather than the refund400k?

I do not believe that austerity works, we aught to be steadily investing in most of the proposed worker proposals.

I'm hoping that we can reactivate the following worker proposals:
* Wirex - Using wirex with BTS would enable me to spend BTS like a normal bank card, it's a great ongoing development for the EMEA Bitshares ecosystem.
* Bitshares UI development - I view this worker proposal as highly productive, improving the reference UI is an excellent investment for the global Bitshares ecosystem. Without this worker proposal, there may be a lack of developers available to resolve new issues reported in the HackTheDex worker proposal.
* Bitshares code development - Very productive worker proposal, multiple releases recently and excellent new functionality being introduced to the network. It would be unfortunate to lose UI or core devs due to loss of funding, we need this development capability to further thwart any issues reported through the HackTheDex wp.
* Conferences - Bitshares is so rarely marketed, these would be an excellent opportunity to get Bitshares some good exposure (worthwhile investment).
* uccs research project - I believe this is highly valuable, it will improve Bitshares academic credibility and I'm confident that its research will lead to new novel assets and optimized bitasset settings for the Bitshares platform.

I do not believe that any of the currently active Bitshares worker proposals are the cause of the downtrend in the Bitshares prices, the worker proposal fund emissions are lower than most other cryptocurrencies.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2019, 06:41:29 pm by Customminer »

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I am Dr. Philip N. Brown, professor of computer science at the University of Colorado and lead on the 201907-uccs-research-project worker which aims to fund research on BitAssets and create simulation models to help improve price pegging and collateralization for BitAssets.

Current Project Status and activities

Before any funds came to the worker proposal, I wrote a paper to send to the Decentralized 2019 conference; the paper has already been made available to the BitShares community here: http://cs.uccs.edu/~pbrown2/papers/Decentralized_Preprint.pdf.

Work is progressing well. The PhD student who is attached to the project has been learning about financial modeling and this week we'll start developing our BitAsset simulator. The simulator will be a testbed which we will use to look at the effects of different choices of chain parameters, and as time goes on we will expand it to look at more advanced stabilization techniques also.

If the project receives sufficient funding (approximately $40k, to ensure the researcher/student is fully funded for at least one year), we will make sure that the simulation code is available for the BitShares community to use to test various aspects of pegging behavior on their own.

Accounting Information

This worker proposal is a BitShares Blockchain Foundation escrow worker, which means that any community member is free to examine the accounting information at any time: https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-07-uccs-research-project

We have not yet requested a payment from the foundation, since so far only $14,000 has been allocated and it would be considerably better for us to receive a larger amount as our first disbursement.

Project costs

The proposal originally requested $150,000 to fully fund a 2-year project. Approximately half of that money was slated to be used to fund the student's efforts; this means the original proposal asked for about $80,000 to pay for a full-time PhD student/researcher to work on the project for 2 years. The bulk of the remainder of the funds were to be used to pay me to devote some of my summers to the project full-time.

I will continue to stress that $150,000 would set this up as a very successful project, but I also understand that since the BTS price has decreased so much in the past months, the community is now hesitant to part with this much money all at once.

In light of this, I want the cn-vote community to know that this project will give the community results even if it is only funded at a level of $40,000. Even this extremely low level of funding would ensure that the project's student would be fully funded and completely committed to the project for a full year.

Thus, I am asking the cn-vote community to consider voting the research worker back in until at least $40,000 have been raised. At current prices, this should take about 3 weeks, and it would be a good balance between funding the project and reducing BTS inflation. $40,000 would allow us to make significant progress (build a complete simulator for the community to use for experiments, and then analyze the simulation results deeply and draw some conclusions about how to set the chain parameters optimally), and then if the BTS price increases in the future we can introduce a new worker to continue the work.

Some Questions

Q1. If $40,000 is enough for the project to generate value, why does the original proposal ask for $150,000?
A: At universities, students do most of the research work; at my university, a full-time student costs at least $40,000 per year. The extra money was going to be used to "buy my time" from the University so that I could devote large blocks of my time to the project as well. So: $40,000 buys the project a student for a year; $150,000 buys the project a student for 2 years plus a professor (me) full-time for a total of four months. If project costs are cut, I will always sacrifice my time first and keep the student working. However, of course the more effort that is devoted to the project, the more successful it will be.

Q2. Why does this worker ask for all the money at the start of the project?
A: I wish there were a better way to do this, but unfortunately the way research funding works at universities is that the money must be committed at the start of the project. Part of the reason for this is to make sure that the student is confident in their ability to continue working throughout the project. However, the BitShares community needs to understand that my reputation as a professor is at stake if I mis-manage the money: a very important part of my career is that when I tell people I'm going to be able to get research done, I absolutely need to deliver on my promise.

Q3. Why is this worker important for the BitShares community?
A: A (relatively) short answer is this: this worker brings 3 core benefits to the BitShares community.
First, we will provide specific recommendations to the community about how chain parameters such as MCR and MSSR should be chosen, along with detailed simulation results and mathematical analysis to support our recommendations. In turn, when the BitShares community advertises their product, they will be in a very strong position to say "we've had this looked at, and here are all the reasons why we do things the way we do them." This should make BitShares a stronger competitor.
Second, we will publish and present our findings at well-respected academic conferences (and tell everybody that BitShares sponsored us), which will directly increase the global awareness of the BitShares system.
Third, by funding high-level research, BitShares will help to define what kinds of problems are "interesting" and worth studying; when other researchers see money going to a particular topic, it increases their interest in that topic. Of course this benefit is the least tangible, but it really is an important piece of funding university research that many people forget about.

As always, please direct your questions to me and I will do my best to answer them.
Thank you very much. I think your research is very important for bitshares. It will open a window and let us see more scenery.

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这是个积极的回应,我们希望wirex-integration项目的发起人和推动者能够尽可能多的披露工作开展的情况,但是这个项目花费的时间太长了,而且每天的经费是44320bts,这是相当大的一笔开支,我仍然认为,目前的项目进展以及成功之后带来的效果,不值得每天花费44320BTS。

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Would you consider voting for a smaller refund worker proposal, rather than the refund400k?

I do not believe that austerity works, we aught to be steadily investing in most of the proposed worker proposals.

I'm hoping that we can reactivate the following worker proposals:
* Wirex - Using wirex with BTS would enable me to spend BTS like a normal bank card, it's a great ongoing development for the EMEA Bitshares ecosystem.
* Bitshares UI development - I view this worker proposal as highly productive, improving the reference UI is an excellent investment for the global Bitshares ecosystem. Without this worker proposal, there may be a lack of developers available to resolve new issues reported in the HackTheDex worker proposal.
* Bitshares code development - Very productive worker proposal, multiple releases recently and excellent new functionality being introduced to the network. It would be unfortunate to lose UI or core devs due to loss of funding, we need this development capability to further thwart any issues reported through the HackTheDex wp.
* Conferences - Bitshares is so rarely marketed, these would be an excellent opportunity to get Bitshares some good exposure (worthwhile investment).
* uccs research project - I believe this is highly valuable, it will improve Bitshares academic credibility and I'm confident that its research will lead to new novel assets and optimized bitasset settings for the Bitshares platform.

I do not believe that any of the currently active Bitshares worker proposals are the cause of the downtrend in the Bitshares prices, the worker proposal fund emissions are lower than most other cryptocurrencies.
Agree, worker is not the reason for the low price


Offline sschiessl

这是个积极的回应,我们希望wirex-integration项目的发起人和推动者能够尽可能多的披露工作开展的情况,但是这个项目花费的时间太长了,而且每天的经费是44320bts,这是相当大的一笔开支,我仍然认为,目前的项目进展以及成功之后带来的效果,不值得每天花费44320BTS。

English version
The impact of this worker will only be visible once Wirex starts their own marketing, and ultimately when BTS is available on the direct debit card.

Details on the proposed budget and actual spendings can be found here:

If you have any questions or suggestions how to improve the workers website, please do not hesitate to let us know.

Chinese version
一旦Wirex开始他们自己的营销,并且最终在直接借记卡上有BTS时,这个worker的影响才会显现。

有关拟议预算和实际支出的详细信息,请访问:
  • 要求预算:https://www.bitshares.foundation/workers/2019-05-wirex-integration
  • 可用预算:https://workers.bitshares.foundation/201905-wirex-integration。 这也包含详细信息
    • 直接在页面上的概述和发票
    • 交易历史:https://workers.bitshares.foundation/201905-wirex-integration/worker_register
    • 整体报告:https://workers.bitshares.foundation/201905-wirex-integration/report

如果您对如何改进工人网站有任何疑问或建议,请随时告诉我们。

p.s. apologies, this is now google translated. I double checked it and it made sense to me.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2019, 07:07:19 am by sschiessl »

Offline bench

There are two main questions, how we can valuate our workers:

1. Does the worker increase the BTS price in the next 6 month?

2. Does the worker solve one of our main problems?

- Marketing
- Integration
- UI
- Liquidity
- Gateways
- Price feeds


On the one side 201907-uccs-research-project does create a problem, where there is actually is no problem, but doesn't solve any of our real problems.
The BitShares community is already aware MCR = 1.5 and MSSR = 1.01 is the sweet spot.

On the other side there will be no extra demand of BTS, because someone did a research on MCR/MSSR. This is not how demand works.
Voting for this research worker, is throwing BTS out of the window!

We already lost some community members, because of bad worker spendings. The uccs-research-project is the worst worker!
Now is not the time for research, but it is time to take actions and change things!
« Last Edit: August 20, 2019, 09:58:21 am by bench »
Be part of the change and vote for the bitshares-vision proxy!

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There are two main questions, how we can valuate our workers:

1. Does the worker increase the BTS price in the next 6 month?

2. Does the worker solve one of our main problems?

- Marketing
- Integration
- UI
- Liquidity
- Gateways
- Price feeds


On the one side 201907-uccs-research-project does create a problem, where there is actually is no problem, but doesn't solve any of our real problems.
The BitShares community is already aware MCR = 1.5 and MSSR = 1.01 is the sweet spot.

On the other side there will be no extra demand of BTS, because someone did a research on MCR/MSSR. This is not how demand works.
Voting for this research worker, is throwing BTS out of the window!

We already lost some community members, because of bad worker spendings. The uccs-research-project is the worst worker!
Now is not the time for research, but it is time to take actions and change things!

Agree