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these worker,who are U?
« on: August 27, 2019, 04:04:16 am »
NABTS2019 
DEXBot WP3 - Liquidity for the DEX
201907-steemfest
201902-reference-faucet
2019-06-decentralized-partnership
201902-infrastructure
Who are you? Why apply for such a huge expense? Is it really necessary for you to exist? Why don't you tell us what's going on and what's going on? Who's to say you're not corrupt?

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Re: these worker,who are U?
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2019, 06:59:46 am »
NABTS2019 
DEXBot WP3 - Liquidity for the DEX
201907-steemfest
201902-reference-faucet
2019-06-decentralized-partnership
201902-infrastructure
Who are you? Why apply for such a huge expense? Is it really necessary for you to exist? Why don't you tell us what's going on and what's going on? Who's to say you're not corrupt?
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I assume you have seen the on-chain links for those workers?


Please let me know if you have any detailed questions. If desireable, the proposal text can be translated.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2019, 07:01:44 am by sschiessl »

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Re: these worker,who are U?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2019, 07:20:29 am »
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Re: these worker,who are U?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 07:05:05 am »
NABTS2019
DEXBot WP3 - Liquidity for the DEX
201907-steemfest
201902-reference-faucet
2019-06-decentralized-partnership
201902-infrastructure
Who are you? Why apply for such a huge expense? Is it really necessary for you to exist? Why don't you tell us what's going on and what's going on? Who's to say you're not corrupt?


- NABTS2019 is very underfunded and poorly organized worker from the start. Even asking 113k USD in June (at the price of BTS 6.7c), worker has due to depreciation of the price and this constant voting games less that 63k USD (WHAT HUGE EXPENSE) now available for total funding of it. As it was organized in spirit of American collaboration to present and showcase BTS to more users and Hackathon to step up next to EOS and some other great names. On the other hand, Move Institute (current escrow/account holder) signed legal agreement with EVOLV on that BitShares sponsorship. Disabling worker in such manners as this one can seriously damage reputation of BitShares and legally compromise escrow to represent legally blockchain. Now, whatever costs that incur from that - blockchain will pay, so to be clear:

Team of NABTS is selling co-sponsorships that include booths at the hall @ 3500 USD and tickets for events (currently sold 5 ~ 995 USD). So, that team is doing something to help saving the worker even without sufficient funds from worker vesting (even voted in).

If this worker happens to drop due to voting issues, that will be not fault of Aaron Mangal or BEOS team behind the idea. It will be issue caused by specific holders holding refund400k and published as such to the included 3rd parties (EVOLV, PeerPlays, WCC 2019, etc.) because after all we are transparent and we will not take the slap for the blockchain while blockchain is slapping us (both team and escrow).

If you would be so kind to restore the vote, so team can try something more to do with enthusiasm that still has - grateful. If not, you'll just increase the costs of it by adding more work to it (both accounting and legal).
If the team fail to deliver - it will be due to lack interest to the BitShares.

- DEXBot WP3 - Liquidity for the DEX

Name says - liquidity for the DEX and it does it. For past nearly 2 years, DEXBot has and is serving still to this day its purpose. Enables our users to bring more liquidity into trading by automatizing process for them. Is it overexpensive, should it be changed, or you have some personal input on it - please provide so we can make some compromise, trim it, improve it or whatever is you concern - discuss it first.

- 201907-steemfest
Steem and BitShares relation exists since their inceptions. Both Roelandp (our witness) and Abitmore (our everything + steem's core dev) knows the value of bringing those 2 together to the masses. I've personally would support this worker just because of 1 thing, if nothing else:
1) I'm based in Thailand. As a business here, we have beautiful conditions to charge 0% tax to clients for any goods/services consumed outside Thailand. BitShares is future of trading for Thais and security to their funds. Having trouble to explain to a single Thai person what is BitShares, building content for it and advertising it around - i would personally have more space for those offers once Steem with BitShares as a sponsor crates event in Bangkok, Thailand. There is one mention of BitShares in Thailand on siamblockchain.com from 2017 and even name is written wrong (BitShare). Why holders never moved marketing about DEX who has legal definition on crypto and exchanges since 2017 - im clueless.

You talk BTS price - but you fail to marketing existence of BTS apart from mainland China everywhere. Do we care investors of only specific origin ? Is this some war based on nationalism ? racism ?
Please explain.

- 201902-reference-faucet
This has been only willing, profitable worker and as it says "reference" faucet for very long time. Asking to be paid instead of investing its own funds should be done ages ago and if we were to be honest, WE ARE WRONG not the worker in this case.

- 2019-06-decentralized-partnership
I have no comments. EU is far underappreciated by East holders around here and its obvious. You dont support americans, you dont support europeans conferences, but you still gladly jiggle the funds with no accounting 2 years in a row for Global Graphene Conference (being escrow to yourself with bunch of multisigs and profiting the most from Conference - being native speaker and one of the organizers to it). As above:
Is this some war based on nationalism ? racism ?

Addition: Is this hostile takeover of BitShares to limit it to Chinese users/investors same as YOYOW did from beginning until it was dried and now nearly dead behind closed doors ?

- For the infrastructure workers ill not even comment. In November 2017, after i joined here, there was thousands of complaints in Telegram from thousand of unhappy users screaming loud "Failed to Broadcast Transaction". So, before this worker in 2018 (was voted in first time in December 2017) and followed up by my ex The Flash infra in August 2018 - there was a business network called bitshares with 3 years of existence and network worse than anyone else in the industry. What currently infra and exotic infra are doing ? Making sure there is corporate SLA on network we deployed and that nodes are reliable.

If you wanna use witness API's as excuse that we dont need those, some of them cant even manage price feeds accordingly, not extra 2-3 nodes. Most of them doesn't provide even up-time status but yeah - very realiable solution to our problems.

NOW A QUESTION:
How much users we lost due to BSIP42 being applied on bitUSD against its own documentation instructions ?
How long price of BTS was DESTROYED during healthy bulls of BTC thanks to that ?

P.S. All statements and opinions are mine, personal and based on facts that can be proved/backed by proof/evidence. Please try to respond in same manner, I have 0 patience for your constant ignorance around here.

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Re: these worker,who are U?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 04:03:11 pm »
NABTS2019

Was an upcoming dedicated Bitshares conference in North America; its deactivation is a major loss for Bitshares marketing opportunity.

DEXBot WP3 - Liquidity for the DEX

Highly active community worker proposal for developing an open source trading bot for Bitshares; this worker is highly beneficial to the Bitshares liquidity and market bootstrapping. There are no equal featured alternative Bitshares trading bots.

201907-steemfest

Promoting Bitshares at Steemfest - an soon to be lost opportunity to market Bitshares to new users.

201902-reference-faucet

Without this new users would be unable to register on the Bitshares network. How don't you know this? Are you using an alternative? There's no actively maintained alternative registration faucets, blocking this would deter new users from Bitshares.

2019-06-decentralized-partnership

A soon to be lost marketing opportunity for Bitshares.

By blocking decentralized, steemfest & nabts2019 worker proposals you disregard marketing/advertising across America, Europe, Middle east & Africa entirely.

201902-infrastructure

Required so that web wallets have servers to connect to. By attacking this WP you threaten the Bitshares infrastructure for us all.

Who are you? Why apply for such a huge expense?

Most of the worker proposals are highly transparent and you can find this information out if you were to do some digging.

These expenses are fair market rates for highly specialist contract developers, if you can undercut the existing dev worker proposals then do submit one else this is empty complaining.

Is it really necessary for you to exist?

Yes, very.

Why don't you tell us what's going on and what's going on?

The three marketing/conference workers are for events in the future, they can't provide you information on content which does not yet exist. You can find out more info on steemfest & decentralized by visiting their dedicated websites & the nabts wp you could have asked in its dedicated 'stakeholder proposal' thread.

The infrastructure and faucet workers don't provide constant update reports because they're passively operational software stacks for maintaining the operational state of the Bitshares network.

Who's to say you're not corrupt?
Unless you've got clear evidence of corruption, don't make accusations of bad faith. Most of the above worker proposals are highly transparent. From my perspective you're attacking the Bitshares network with this fraudulent narrative.