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AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« on: August 29, 2019, 10:08:33 pm »
Since today bitshares price tanked again from $0.035 to 0.0325 i was checking where it was caused.
Based on CMC Data it catched instantly my attention that poloniex has unnatural high volume .
I checked the BTS charts on poloniex and could see there was a big amount of BTS dumped on their market which couldn''t be seen on any other major exchange like Huobi or Binance.
You can see that many BTS have been send from poloniex to Binance during dump.Arbitrage or mirrored offer.
You can also see each time avg2907 is sending bigger amounts of BTS to poloniex at the same day a dump on poloniex accured.
You can also see on poloniex wallet that each time he sent a bigger amount to poloniex a few hours later bigger amounts of BTS (before dump) were sent to Huobi-Pro , ZB , AEX , Binance

Please check yourself and give your input to it

His profil
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http://bts.ai/u/poloniexwallet


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Dump today




Dump before.Please check each time avg2907 is sending bigger amount of BTS to poloniex at the same day accures a big dump


« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 11:24:10 pm by Thul3 »

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 08:49:57 am »
i think most people dotn use polo in their price feeds for this exact reason....

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 11:58:40 pm »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2019, 12:06:16 am »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.
The true is, we can't stop him.

Maybe he like to do these thing.

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2019, 12:08:43 am »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.
The true is, we can't stop him.

Maybe he like to do these thing.

A liquid market of major assets and arbitrage bot could stop it.
In my opinion a key factor for bitshares to stop these dumps and create real price support.
Getting active instead of waiting.

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 12:15:33 am »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.
The true is, we can't stop him.

Maybe he like to do these thing.

A liquid market of major assets and arbitrage bot could stop it.
In my opinion a key factor for bitshares to stop these dumps and create real price support.
Getting active instead of waiting.

That's need fund and more BTC or USDT, we can't afford for this.

or make the Bitusd/BTS market more active.

The bots always kill each other.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 12:19:53 am by binggo »

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 12:24:02 am »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.
The true is, we can't stop him.

Maybe he like to do these thing.



A liquid market of major assets and arbitrage bot could stop it.
In my opinion a key factor for bitshares to stop these dumps and create real price support.
Getting active instead of waiting.

That's need fund and more BTC or USDT, we can't afford for this.

or make the Bitusd/BTS market more active.

BitUSD won't quickly support price on CEX.
Question is what is better to invest $50k for trading (not spending) to catch the dumps or keep losing each time 5% of all debt on DEX.

Whats cheaper for the debt holders and what is more supportive for the BTS price
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 12:25:33 am by Thul3 »

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 12:45:45 am »
We can't catch the dumps when it's huge.

or maybe change the price feed rule?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28383.msg331192#msg331192
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28217.msg330181#msg330181

but i think we need these BSIP to prevent this kind price crash and give DEX some free:

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/194
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/161
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/164

内盘价格做权重,必须做上下价格保护,喂价规则起码是这样,:

偏差率=P

喂价=内盘深度加权中间价*权重+外盘深度指数价格×(1+P)*权重

设一个上下价格保护: 外盘深度指数价格×(1+P)<喂价< (1.05+P)×外盘深度指数价格

P按照历史喂价的偏差数据看,一般在2%左右,可以按照自己的喂价与实际法币价格偏离情况进行调整。

这样就算是你按USD的官方汇率换算,内盘深度价格做大权重,你的喂价在极端情况下也不会偏离出多少。

这只是针对BITCNY的喂价, 其它的锚定资产需要另讨论。

或者是这位哥哥的:
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if
max(DEX*溢价、CEX1、CEX2……)≤ Average(DEX*溢价、CEX1、CEX2……)*1.05

feed price=max(DEX*溢价、CEX1、CEX2……)

otherwise

feed peice=Average(DEX*溢价、CEX1、CEX2……)*1.05

控制喂价下跌的速度,防止插针。

if

feed price(n)*0.97<feed price(n+1)<feed price(n)

feed price =feed price(n)*(1-0.5‰)

otherwise

feed price=feed price(n+1)
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 01:21:36 am by binggo »

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2019, 11:03:02 am »
but i think we need these BSIP to prevent this kind price crash and give DEX some free:

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/194
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/161
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/164

None of your proposed BSIP does solve our problems.

Solutions:
1. Optimize price feeds
2. Increase liquidity
- CEX/DEX arbitrage
- margin position liquidity pool
- Introduce a gab between MCR and margin calls
-- MCR = 1.55 and margin calls only for CR < 1.45
« Last Edit: August 31, 2019, 06:39:43 pm by bench »
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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2019, 11:56:43 am »
but i think we need these BSIP to prevent this kind price crash and give DEX some free:

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/194
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/161
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/164

None of your proposed BSIP does solve our problems.

Solutions:
1. Optimize price feeds
2. Increase liquidity
- CEX/DEX arbitrage
- margin position liquidity pool
3. Introduce a gab between MCR and margin calls
- MCR = 1.55 and margin calls only for CR < 1.45

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2019, 02:39:33 pm »
I hope all witnesses will adopt the principle of maximum price.

That is mean, between the different exchange prices, the higher price is used as the feeding price.

This prevents whales from shorting at a very low cost on a single exchange.

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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2019, 05:00:33 pm »
but i think we need these BSIP to prevent this kind price crash and give DEX some free:

https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/194
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/161
https://github.com/bitshares/bsips/issues/164

None of your proposed BSIP does solve our problems.

Solutions:
1. Optimize price feeds
2. Increase liquidity
- CEX/DEX arbitrage
- margin position liquidity pool
3. Introduce a gab between MCR and margin calls
- MCR = 1.55 and margin calls only for CR < 1.45

These are most.
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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2019, 06:28:18 pm »
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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2019, 07:45:50 pm »
AVG moving again 2 million BTS to poloniex.From there again bigger amount to Binance.
The true is, we can't stop him.

Maybe he like to do these thing.

A liquid market of major assets and arbitrage bot could stop it.
In my opinion a key factor for bitshares to stop these dumps and create real price support.
Getting active instead of waiting.

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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=28861.msg334841#msg334841


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Re: AVG2907 dumping price massivly ?
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2019, 11:24:20 pm »