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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2019, 08:08:41 am »
How long will this be active for then? It's almost been 2 weeks now.
Until MCR for bitCNY is set to 1.5.
Min. feedprice can be lowered to 0.20625 bitCNY/BTS

I very much doubt that lowering the threshhold will __ever__ happen, as long as the outside market price is lower. It would mean instant margin call for pretty much all positions.

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2019, 09:43:43 am »
How long will this be active for then? It's almost been 2 weeks now.
Until MCR for bitCNY is set to 1.5.
Min. feedprice can be lowered to 0.20625 bitCNY/BTS

I very much doubt that lowering the threshhold will __ever__ happen, as long as the outside market price is lower. It would mean instant margin call for pretty much all positions.

I don't think that will happen, I don't think community will select to lower the threshold.

actually the current status is not so bad, although BTS market price is about 10% lower than 0.22CNY, bitCNY has about 4% discount, better than the 10%+ premium that we always see when MSSR=1.1.

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2019, 10:41:51 am »
How long will this be active for then? It's almost been 2 weeks now.
Until MCR for bitCNY is set to 1.5.
Min. feedprice can be lowered to 0.20625 bitCNY/BTS

I very much doubt that lowering the threshhold will __ever__ happen, as long as the outside market price is lower. It would mean instant margin call for pretty much all positions.

I don't think that will happen, I don't think community will select to lower the threshold.

actually the current status is not so bad, although BTS market price is about 10% lower than 0.22CNY, bitCNY has about 4% discount, better than the 10%+ premium that we always see when MSSR=1.1.

It's more than 4% though, no? https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29679.msg336034#msg336034

CNY feed price: 4.54545 BTS per 1 CNY (https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/CNY)
1 CNY in USD (CURRENT): $0.140133 (https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CNY&To=USD)
1 BTS in USD (CURRENT): $0.028488 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares/)
(1-((4.54545*0.028488)/0.140133))*100= 7.594%


1 CNY in USD (26th september 2019): $0.140220 (https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/best-us-dollar-to-chinese-yuan-history)
1 BTS in USD (26th september 2019): $0.025056 (same cmc source)
(1-((4.54545*0.025056)/0.140220))*100= 18.777% (That's a deep discount, no?)

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2019, 12:03:16 pm »
I don't think the result you got is right.

The right answer is there: https://dev.bts.xyz/merchant/staff?action=recharge&asset=CNY


How long will this be active for then? It's almost been 2 weeks now.
Until MCR for bitCNY is set to 1.5.
Min. feedprice can be lowered to 0.20625 bitCNY/BTS

I very much doubt that lowering the threshhold will __ever__ happen, as long as the outside market price is lower. It would mean instant margin call for pretty much all positions.

I don't think that will happen, I don't think community will select to lower the threshold.

actually the current status is not so bad, although BTS market price is about 10% lower than 0.22CNY, bitCNY has about 4% discount, better than the 10%+ premium that we always see when MSSR=1.1.

It's more than 4% though, no? https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29679.msg336034#msg336034

CNY feed price: 4.54545 BTS per 1 CNY (https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/CNY)
1 CNY in USD (CURRENT): $0.140133 (https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CNY&To=USD)
1 BTS in USD (CURRENT): $0.028488 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares/)
(1-((4.54545*0.028488)/0.140133))*100= 7.594%


1 CNY in USD (26th september 2019): $0.140220 (https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/best-us-dollar-to-chinese-yuan-history)
1 BTS in USD (26th september 2019): $0.025056 (same cmc source)
(1-((4.54545*0.025056)/0.140220))*100= 18.777% (That's a deep discount, no?)

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2019, 12:34:28 pm »
How long will this be active for then? It's almost been 2 weeks now.
Until MCR for bitCNY is set to 1.5.
Min. feedprice can be lowered to 0.20625 bitCNY/BTS

I very much doubt that lowering the threshhold will __ever__ happen, as long as the outside market price is lower. It would mean instant margin call for pretty much all positions.

No margin call, because MCR (bitCNY)= 1.5!
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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2019, 12:35:53 pm »
It's more than 4% though, no? https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=29679.msg336034#msg336034

CNY feed price: 4.54545 BTS per 1 CNY (https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/asset/CNY)
1 CNY in USD (CURRENT): $0.140133 (https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=CNY&To=USD)
1 BTS in USD (CURRENT): $0.028488 (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares/)
(1-((4.54545*0.028488)/0.140133))*100= 7.594%


1 CNY in USD (26th september 2019): $0.140220 (https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/best-exchange-rates/best-us-dollar-to-chinese-yuan-history)
1 BTS in USD (26th september 2019): $0.025056 (same cmc source)
(1-((4.54545*0.025056)/0.140220))*100= 18.777% (That's a deep discount, no?)


bitCNY/CNY conversion fee at this moment:

« Last Edit: October 08, 2019, 12:38:08 pm by bitcrab »

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2019, 04:03:54 pm »
I don't think the result you got is right.

The right answer is there: https://dev.bts.xyz/merchant/staff?action=recharge&asset=CNY

Your website isn't loading properly, it's displaying an indefinite spinning loading animation.

CMC shows the current BTS CNY price as 0.205061 & Coingecko say it's 0.203866, so:
4.54545 * 0.205061 = 0.93209  (6.79% below peg).
4.54545* 0.203866 = ‭0.92666 (‭7.334‬% below peg).

bitCNY/CNY conversion fee at this moment:

I'm unfamiliar with this trading exchange, but the shown rates are below my above estimates.

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2019, 06:29:05 pm »
As far as I can tell, data on CMC is not reliable.

72% of volume on BTS on CMC is from CoinEgg, with fake volume.
100% of volume on bitCNY on CMC is from CoinTiger, where you can't deposit/withdraw.

I have no idea how Coingecko got that data.
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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2019, 02:58:33 pm »
As far as I can tell, data on CMC is not reliable.

72% of volume on BTS on CMC is from CoinEgg, with fake volume.
100% of volume on bitCNY on CMC is from CoinTiger, where you can't deposit/withdraw.

I have no idea how Coingecko got that data.
0.19975 CNY/BTS : https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/BitShares-BTS
0.20149 CNY/BTS : https://coincodex.com/crypto/bitshares/?period=7D
0.2006 CNY/BTS: https://coincheckup.com/coins/bitshares/
0.208 CNY/BTS: https://coinlib.io/coin/BTS/Bitshares
0.20152 CNY/BTS: https://coincap.io/assets/bitshares

avg: (0.19975 + 0.20149 + 0.2006 + 0.208 + 0.20152)/5 = ‭0.202272‬ CNY/BTS
avg value of 1 bitCNY: 4.54545 * 0.202272‬ = ‭0.9194172624‬ = ‭8.058% below peg


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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2019, 10:24:32 pm »
As far as I can tell, data on CMC is not reliable.

72% of volume on BTS on CMC is from CoinEgg, with fake volume.
100% of volume on bitCNY on CMC is from CoinTiger, where you can't deposit/withdraw.

I have no idea how Coingecko got that data.
0.19975 CNY/BTS : https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/BitShares-BTS
0.20149 CNY/BTS : https://coincodex.com/crypto/bitshares/?period=7D
0.2006 CNY/BTS: https://coincheckup.com/coins/bitshares/
0.208 CNY/BTS: https://coinlib.io/coin/BTS/Bitshares
0.20152 CNY/BTS: https://coincap.io/assets/bitshares

avg: (0.19975 + 0.20149 + 0.2006 + 0.208 + 0.20152)/5 = ‭0.202272‬ CNY/BTS
avg value of 1 bitCNY: 4.54545 * 0.202272‬ = ‭0.9194172624‬ = ‭8.058% below peg
Thanks for the links.
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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2020, 01:35:57 pm »
BSIP76 is a scam. Even to this day the bitshares.org website misleads investors: https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

BSIP76 has HUMILIATED CNY on an international stage & destroyed the credibility of bitassets as a store of value permanently.

Shame on all BSIP76 proponents.

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2020, 03:21:45 pm »
BSIP76 is a scam. Even to this day the bitshares.org website misleads investors: https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

BSIP76 has HUMILIATED CNY on an international stage & destroyed the credibility of bitassets as a store of value permanently.

Shame on all BSIP76 proponents.

If you do not understand what sense does BSIP76 make, update yourself.

bitshares.org need update.

we understand BSIP76 make bitCNY&bitUSD peg off, but there is no better choice.

to stop the death spiral from destroying BTS, we have to do so.

what we need to do is make BTS price above the threshold stably, the way is to make the system income support BTS price, and that is what the core prelude worker focus on.



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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2020, 03:23:11 pm »
BSIP76 is a scam. Even to this day the bitshares.org website misleads investors: https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

BSIP76 has HUMILIATED CNY on an international stage & destroyed the credibility of bitassets as a store of value permanently.

Shame on all BSIP76 proponents.

If you do not understand what sense does BSIP76 make, update yourself.

bitshares.org need update.

we understand BSIP76 make bitCNY&bitUSD peg off, but there is no better choice.

to stop the death spiral from destroying BTS, we have to do so.

what we need to do is make BTS price above the threshold stably, the way is to make the system income support BTS price, and that is what the core prelude worker focus on.

You do it by adding $20 daily market fee?

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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2020, 03:39:29 pm »
BSIP76 is a scam. Even to this day the bitshares.org website misleads investors: https://bitshares.org/technology/price-stable-cryptocurrencies/

BSIP76 has HUMILIATED CNY on an international stage & destroyed the credibility of bitassets as a store of value permanently.

Shame on all BSIP76 proponents.

If you do not understand what sense does BSIP76 make, update yourself.

bitshares.org need update.

we understand BSIP76 make bitCNY&bitUSD peg off, but there is no better choice.

to stop the death spiral from destroying BTS, we have to do so.

what we need to do is make BTS price above the threshold stably, the way is to make the system income support BTS price, and that is what the core prelude worker focus on.

BSIP76 has repeatedly defrauded tens of thousands of bitasset holders via BSIP76. This has been worse for BTS than all the proposal scammers combined detrimental impact on bitshares. Shame on BSIP76 proponents for degrading the reputation&value of bitassets to save yourself/friends from bad gambling outcomes.

It's not just the website that deceives users, but it's also the CNY asset details which lie about it being pegged to the CNY. It's not pegged to the CNY but a fake number. Why lie about the asset? Why humiliate the real CNY & China like this?

The correct outcome should have been globally settlement, as originally intended, as fully known/acknowledged by all bitasset participants. Face reality instead of cheating the system to the direct detriment of the platform as a whole.
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Re: [Poll] BSIP76:Set bitCNY feed threshold
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2020, 03:46:23 am »
In August 1971, U.S. President Richard Nixon announced to remove the dollar peg to gold, the Bretton Woods System collapsed.

You surely can say that US cheated the whole world, but the point is, at that moment US has no other choice.

BTS also face similar problem, BTS need first to survive, and then can seek more.

BitAssets are not created as a killer to BTS.