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worker for market cap management?
« on: October 01, 2019, 05:32:16 am »
I am not talking about OMO, but another scenario:

A rich man/trader can pull BTS price to above 1CNY, however, he will do that only when he get 5M BTS as reward.

Is it possible to get this 5M BTS from worker and pay him for doing that?

Market cap management worker
daily pay:100K BTS, 3 months. committee-account as escrow.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.6CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.8CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 1CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay the left 2M BTS to the worker owner.

this protocol will applied in 2 months, after that the left BTS will be refunded.

Thoughts?


 

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2019, 05:47:22 am »
So we're officially paying for a P&D?
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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2019, 06:18:35 am »
1. That is a Pump scheme that immediately enables that rich trader to dump all his other or anyone else's BTS for massive profit. A predictable and publicly announcment price increase is inviting too many malicious players

2. The committee-account has proven to not be a suitable escrow account as rules have been bent and re-defined without public discussion or re-approval. If it takes on a new worker, I would like to see confirmation of every single committee member accepting this responsibility

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2019, 06:28:27 am »
1. That is a Pump scheme that immediately enables that rich trader to dump all his other or anyone else's BTS for massive profit. A predictable and publicly announcment price increase is inviting too many malicious players

right.

so I feel the rich man may not accept the "stay above for more than 72 hours" condition.

This is a game which is more suitable for playing in dark, not in public.
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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2019, 06:41:06 am »
1. That is a Pump scheme that immediately enables that rich trader to dump all his other or anyone else's BTS for massive profit. A predictable and publicly announcment price increase is inviting too many malicious players

right.

so I feel the rich man may not accept the "stay above for more than 72 hours" condition.

This is a game which is more suitable for playing in dark, not in public.

This is a game not suitable playing period.

Stop trying to make BTS even more of a scam than it's already perceived to be.

Do you know what people including us would say about an asset that used reserve/investor funds to pump its own price up?

Stop trying to take shortcuts and turning BTS into a get rich quick scheme. Add value the old fashioned way.

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2019, 07:15:03 am »

This is a game not suitable playing period.

Stop trying to make BTS even more of a scam than it's already perceived to be.

Do you know what people including us would say about an asset that used reserve/investor funds to pump its own price up?

Stop trying to take shortcuts and turning BTS into a get rich quick scheme. Add value the old fashioned way.

just discuss something, what does "scam" come from?

we need BTS to be in high price, then the smartcoin can serve more scenario.

stop pretending to be nobility.


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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 08:07:16 am »
This is wrong... A coin is not only about price

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2019, 08:25:37 am »
We just need to know what the investor/money care about.

How to attract the attention of the market/money first?function or price or market development?which is more effective? 

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2019, 08:28:26 am »
We just need to know what the investor/money care about.

How to attract the attention of the market/money first?function or price or market development?which is more effective?
Function and market development are more important than price...

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2019, 08:31:15 am »
How about we put the same amount of money into proper marketing?
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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2019, 09:32:35 am »
I am not talking about OMO, but another scenario:

A rich man/trader can pull BTS price to above 1CNY, however, he will do that only when he get 5M BTS as reward.

Is it possible to get this 5M BTS from worker and pay him for doing that?

Market cap management worker
daily pay:100K BTS, 3 months. committee-account as escrow.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.6CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.8CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 1CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay the left 2M BTS to the worker owner.

this protocol will applied in 2 months, after that the left BTS will be refunded.

Thoughts?



If the investor sees development, he will never sell at a cheap price.
The solution to this issue is in front of you!
The misuse of the fund has led the system to this state. Efficiency and practicality of decisions is the basic principle of success.

To get things going for the Bitshares, you need to start using the budget effectively.
Why invest a lot of money in holding mediocre conferences? There will be no investors in Athens, there will be students in Athens ! Who needs Bitshares there. For the image ???? It is important for Bitshares to stimulate demand and attract a specific audience - traders!
You will say that you need technical updates for Bitshares. But no!!! Bitshares works fine !!! Bitshares need advertising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think that if the conference budget in Athens would be invested in the promotion of contextual advertising and advertising on YouTube for special requests. Tens of thousands of people would know about Bitshares. And how many people will learn about the Bitshares at the conference. And if advertising on the Internet would give a conversion of real users, then advertising at the conference does not guarantee any sales of BTS.

Bitshares needs a marketing team that understands what it does.
Of course, we would recommend ourselves, because we have a vision and we know what we are talking about.

If there are people here who are really interested in development, then we can talk about business. We have been in Bitshares for almost a year and a half, and during this time we have not seen a single good marketing from Bitshares. Here people who have never worked as marketers and never brought a product to the market are engaged in marketing.

There are many tools that optimize advertising costs and make it effective. Bitshares deserves to be known about her. Stop killing the Bitshares with bad decisions !!!!!!

Because Bitshares can be more than that. The Bitshares have a truly colossal business potential !!!
Bitshares is a huge profitable business that needs your sincere love and interest. This business just needs to be engaged, and it will grow to heaven.

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2019, 10:09:14 am »

Why invest a lot of money in holding mediocre conferences? There will be no investors in Athens, there will be students in Athens ! Who needs Bitshares there. For the image ????

a) You're wrong.
b) Yes. For the image.  BitShares has a SEVERE brand equity problem. It's not just lack of awareness.

It is important for Bitshares to stimulate demand and attract a specific audience - traders!
You will say that you need technical updates for Bitshares. But no!!! Bitshares works fine !!! Bitshares need advertising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Try onboarding tens of thousands of traders with existing API and infrastructure and then tell me technical updates are not needed.

Think that if the conference budget in Athens would be invested in the promotion of contextual advertising and advertising on YouTube for special requests. Tens of thousands of people would know about Bitshares.

tens of thousands already know and think it's a centralized scam.

And how many people will learn about the Bitshares at the conference. And if advertising on the Internet would give a conversion of real users, then advertising at the conference does not guarantee any sales of BTS.

No it wouldnt necessarily. But it would set nice fundamentals for other marketing opportunities that do... As I said.. It's a brand equity issue.

Bitshares needs a marketing team that understands what it does.
Of course, we would recommend ourselves, because we have a vision and we know what we are talking about.

If there are people here who are really interested in development, then we can talk about business. We have been in Bitshares for almost a year and a half, and during this time we have not seen a single good marketing from Bitshares. Here people who have never worked as marketers and never brought a product to the market are engaged in marketing.

My day job has been marketing for the last 16 years at WPP subsidiaries such as Ogilvy and Soho Square servicing clients such as Lufthansa, Siemens, IBM, Microsoft, Nestle, Coca-cola, Pizza Hut and more and have received multiple awards for work done.

There are many tools that optimize advertising costs and make it effective. Bitshares deserves to be known about her. Stop killing the Bitshares with bad decisions !!!!!!

Yes there are. And yes it does deserve it. Hopefully others will join in and help. Any decent marketing idea/worker is more than welcome. You don't have to bash other workers to get support for yours. Nor is it fair to consider any marketing spend a waste when there was no alternative suggestion.

I'll reiterate... If you don't realise BitShares has an image/brand equity problem, any hard-selling advertising attempts will probably fail.

Because Bitshares can be more than that. The Bitshares have a truly colossal business potential !!!
Bitshares is a huge profitable business that needs your sincere love and interest. This business just needs to be engaged, and it will grow to heaven.
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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2019, 01:12:15 pm »
I am not talking about OMO, but another scenario:

A rich man/trader can pull BTS price to above 1CNY, however, he will do that only when he get 5M BTS as reward.

Is it possible to get this 5M BTS from worker and pay him for doing that?

Market cap management worker
daily pay:100K BTS, 3 months. committee-account as escrow.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.6CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.8CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 1CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay the left 2M BTS to the worker owner.

this protocol will applied in 2 months, after that the left BTS will be refunded.

Thoughts?



If the investor sees development, he will never sell at a cheap price.
The solution to this issue is in front of you!
The misuse of the fund has led the system to this state. Efficiency and practicality of decisions is the basic principle of success.

To get things going for the Bitshares, you need to start using the budget effectively.
Why invest a lot of money in holding mediocre conferences? There will be no investors in Athens, there will be students in Athens ! Who needs Bitshares there. For the image ???? It is important for Bitshares to stimulate demand and attract a specific audience - traders!
You will say that you need technical updates for Bitshares. But no!!! Bitshares works fine !!! Bitshares need advertising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think that if the conference budget in Athens would be invested in the promotion of contextual advertising and advertising on YouTube for special requests. Tens of thousands of people would know about Bitshares. And how many people will learn about the Bitshares at the conference. And if advertising on the Internet would give a conversion of real users, then advertising at the conference does not guarantee any sales of BTS.

Bitshares needs a marketing team that understands what it does.
Of course, we would recommend ourselves, because we have a vision and we know what we are talking about.

If there are people here who are really interested in development, then we can talk about business. We have been in Bitshares for almost a year and a half, and during this time we have not seen a single good marketing from Bitshares. Here people who have never worked as marketers and never brought a product to the market are engaged in marketing.

There are many tools that optimize advertising costs and make it effective. Bitshares deserves to be known about her. Stop killing the Bitshares with bad decisions !!!!!!

Because Bitshares can be more than that. The Bitshares have a truly colossal business potential !!!
Bitshares is a huge profitable business that needs your sincere love and interest. This business just needs to be engaged, and it will grow to heaven.
Valid points, although I don't fully agree. I do agree that we need people who know how to market to do marketing.

Would you like to step up competing for proxy and/or committee?
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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2019, 01:18:41 pm »
If you support a pump and dump worker proposal, you have no justification for using refund400k to block any development worker proposals.

I do not support worker proposals of this kinda at all, use your own money to gamble!

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Re: worker for market cap management?
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2019, 03:10:29 pm »
I am not talking about OMO, but another scenario:

A rich man/trader can pull BTS price to above 1CNY, however, he will do that only when he get 5M BTS as reward.

Is it possible to get this 5M BTS from worker and pay him for doing that?

Market cap management worker
daily pay:100K BTS, 3 months. committee-account as escrow.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.6CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 0.8CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay 1.5M BTS to the worker owner.

when BTS price is pulled to above 1CNY and stay for more than 72 hours, pay the left 2M BTS to the worker owner.

this protocol will applied in 2 months, after that the left BTS will be refunded.

Thoughts?



If the investor sees development, he will never sell at a cheap price.
The solution to this issue is in front of you!
The misuse of the fund has led the system to this state. Efficiency and practicality of decisions is the basic principle of success.

To get things going for the Bitshares, you need to start using the budget effectively.
Why invest a lot of money in holding mediocre conferences? There will be no investors in Athens, there will be students in Athens ! Who needs Bitshares there. For the image ???? It is important for Bitshares to stimulate demand and attract a specific audience - traders!
You will say that you need technical updates for Bitshares. But no!!! Bitshares works fine !!! Bitshares need advertising !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Think that if the conference budget in Athens would be invested in the promotion of contextual advertising and advertising on YouTube for special requests. Tens of thousands of people would know about Bitshares. And how many people will learn about the Bitshares at the conference. And if advertising on the Internet would give a conversion of real users, then advertising at the conference does not guarantee any sales of BTS.

Bitshares needs a marketing team that understands what it does.
Of course, we would recommend ourselves, because we have a vision and we know what we are talking about.

If there are people here who are really interested in development, then we can talk about business. We have been in Bitshares for almost a year and a half, and during this time we have not seen a single good marketing from Bitshares. Here people who have never worked as marketers and never brought a product to the market are engaged in marketing.

There are many tools that optimize advertising costs and make it effective. Bitshares deserves to be known about her. Stop killing the Bitshares with bad decisions !!!!!!

Because Bitshares can be more than that. The Bitshares have a truly colossal business potential !!!
Bitshares is a huge profitable business that needs your sincere love and interest. This business just needs to be engaged, and it will grow to heaven.
Valid points, although I don't fully agree. I do agree that we need people who know how to market to do marketing.

Would you like to step up competing for proxy and/or committee?



The 12th participant should be added to the committee list for the harmonious circulation of 氣 Energy. These are the rules of Feng Shui!
https://wallet.bitshares.org/#/explorer/committee-members

We are ready!



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