Announcement Regarding February 28 2014 BitShares Snapshot and Future DACs

[bytemaster]

This looks like an old GUI... the latest GUIs have a file selector dialog.

[kyma]

So I was holding PTS at the time of the snapshot ...am I entitled to anything? I never heard anything about it

Yes, you can import your PTS wallet into the BTSX wallet: bitshares-x.info

Thank you. I had tried using this feature (which was a little buried I must say) But I couldn't get the filepath correct

After several attempts and trying the following:

file:///Users/UserName/Desktop/wallet.dat
~/Desktop/wallet.dat
...
and finally
...
/Users/UserName/Desktop/wallet.dat

This last filepath was the golden ticket. Thanks for reassuring me I was trying to do this correctly! All is well in the land of BTSX

[toast]

So I was holding PTS at the time of the snapshot ...am I entitled to anything? I never heard anything about it

Yes, you can import your PTS wallet into the BTSX wallet: bitshares-x.info

[kyma]

So I was holding PTS at the time of the snapshot ...am I entitled to anything? I never heard anything about it

[kyma]

still in development by the looks of it?

[bytemaster]

Yes you will.

[silatejo]

what about people like me who had their PTS in cryptsy?
Is it just lost? Who claims the Bitshares X?

You have to ask Cryptsy whether they give the BTS they receive to you.

Cryptsy has made it clear they won't participate in the conversion.

Cryptsy subtitle: 'Thanks for the free BTSXTs'

I can't accept that.
Enrique said he was successful twittering Big Vern.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=3305.msg42438#msg42438
I was told by cryptsy today:
"We will not be converting any of our PTS to Bitshares for ourselves or customers at this time. If we decide to in the future the bitshares will go to the customers. But we have no plans for this"

my question:
Will I see in the bitshares XT - blockchain, if a certain PTS public adress was utilized for bitshares XT

[sumantso]

what about people like me who had their PTS in cryptsy?
Is it just lost? Who claims the Bitshares X?

You have to ask Cryptsy whether they give the BTS they receive to you.

Cryptsy has made it clear they won't participate in the conversion.

Cryptsy subtitle: 'Thanks for the free BTSXTs'

[santaclause102]

what about people like me who had their PTS in cryptsy?
Is it just lost? Who claims the Bitshares X?

You have to ask Cryptsy whether they give the BTS they receive to you.

[silatejo]

what about people like me who had their PTS in cryptsy?
Is it just lost? Who claims the Bitshares X?

[yellowecho]

everyone dumped their PTS  hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

Yup, you've secured your stake in future innovations.  And no worries, your money hasn't disappeared.. instead, the value of your PTS has simply shifted into BTS. 

Think of it as a stock split. 

[CryptoN8]

everyone dumped their PTS  hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

Yup, you've secured your stake in future innovations.  And no worries, your money hasn't disappeared.. instead, the value of your PTS has simply shifted into BTS. 

Think of it as a stock split. 

[yellowecho]

everyone dumped their PTS  hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

Yup, you've secured your stake in future innovations.  And no worries, your money hasn't disappeared.. instead, the value of your PTS has simply shifted into BTS. 

[unimercio]

everyone dumped their PTS  hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

This drop was expected, time to double down, future DAC success will resurrect PTS.

No worries.

[kyma]

everyone dumped their PTS  hmmm i knew that was going to happen just sat around and let it my money dissapear... PTS will still give you stake in future innovations though yes?

[maqifrnswa]

a watched pot never boils..

the network just passed midnight a few mins ago, even though it is 2 am. This is because bitcoin timestamps just have to be greater than the median of the past eleven blocks - so it takes a couple of hours before you know what the last block of a day is. I wouldn't expect and announcement for some time. No reason to run anything since there isn't even software yet.

[unimercio]

a watched pot never boils..

[Brekyrself]

Waiting anxiously to hear the snapshot went through without a hitch!

[maqifrnswa]

ok, now it's waiting game time. let's see if any server has crazy time stamps, this is currently the last block
https://coinplorer.com/PTS/Blocks/00000013c103051c8016744cc357406fcd81ed6e3627d4dc187e8ebb6caf54b4

ha!
one did!
https://coinplorer.com/PTS/Blocks/0000001810185022d2b496e2ae59368b1e6fbc40dc82a77e79b90630dfcf89f6

has a time stamp of Feb 28 even though it didn't show up until mar 1

[cass]

Just to verify - is this midnight on the 28th the transition between the 27th & 28th or the 28th and the 1st?

28th and 1st.

we need calendar function on top menu again

[bytemaster]

Just to verify - is this midnight on the 28th the transition between the 27th & 28th or the 28th and the 1st?

28th and 1st.

[Lederstrumpf]

Just to verify - is this midnight on the 28th the transition between the 27th & 28th or the 28th and the 1st?

[bdnoble]

Typo alert: Actioned should be Auctioned at 5:30 

[maqifrnswa]

Sorry if I'm asking silly question but I'd like to further clarification on the Feb 28th snapshot :

1) At what time exactly will the snapshot be taken on Feb 28th (please specify GMT or EST)?
2) Why is it recommended that PTS movement, in regards to your wallet, be halted until March 2nd?
3) Are the extra 2 days (Feb 28th - Mar 2nd) going to be used for final block confirmations from all
    those transfers that will occur *right* before the Feb 28th snapshot?

Just a smaller miner here that wants to maximize his holdings when the  BitShares XT transfer happens!

Thanks in advance for the clarification and finite details 

The snapshot will include the last block on the 28th GMT time.
Not sure about the other two

subtlety: last block means last block with network timestamp of February 28. Network timestamps have some slop in them:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Block_timestamp
block timestamps are not necessarily chronological, and can be as much as 2 hours off of the network consensus time.
so we won't really know what the last block with a February 28 time stamp is until sometime a couple of hours into March 1. I think the March 2 dates is to allow all time stamps and blocks to settle.

[biophil]

2) Why is it recommended that PTS movement, in regards to your wallet, be halted until March 2nd?
3) Are the extra 2 days (Feb 28th - Mar 2nd) going to be used for final block confirmations from all
    those transfers that will occur *right* before the Feb 28th snapshot?

I've always assumed the extra 2 days are just a conservative safety buffer.

[MrJeans]

Sorry if I'm asking silly question but I'd like to further clarification on the Feb 28th snapshot :

1) At what time exactly will the snapshot be taken on Feb 28th (please specify GMT or EST)?
2) Why is it recommended that PTS movement, in regards to your wallet, be halted until March 2nd?
3) Are the extra 2 days (Feb 28th - Mar 2nd) going to be used for final block confirmations from all
    those transfers that will occur *right* before the Feb 28th snapshot?

Just a smaller miner here that wants to maximize his holdings when the  BitShares XT transfer happens!

Thanks in advance for the clarification and finite details 

The snapshot will include the last block on the 28th GMT time.
Not sure about the other two

[mbender71]

Sorry if I'm asking silly question but I'd like to further clarification on the Feb 28th snapshot :

1) At what time exactly will the snapshot be taken on Feb 28th (please specify GMT or EST)?
2) Why is it recommended that PTS movement, in regards to your wallet, be halted until March 2nd?
3) Are the extra 2 days (Feb 28th - Mar 2nd) going to be used for final block confirmations from all
    those transfers that will occur *right* before the Feb 28th snapshot?

Just a smaller miner here that wants to maximize his holdings when the  BitShares XT transfer happens!

Thanks in advance for the clarification and finite details 

[CLains]

\o/

Could we get this up on Coindesk?

Thanks CLains - looking into that.  In the meantime, you can review at:
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/caution-watch-for-falling-pts/

On skimming through,

1. On the top it says by Dr. Charles W. Evans & Daniel Larimer,
On the bottom it says By Stan Larimer
2. There are several spacing errors on the page after periods.
3. "Watch for falling PTS" might over emphasize the point and cause a harder crash? The main headline should be positive, PTS holders are getting something, the fall is a side-effect.

[CLains]

So thanks to you Dan and the whole I3 team behind the scenes, especially for the unseen passion and commitement you bring to the table! I got your back like the whole community does 

I3 are awesome! That being said, I think ultimately one has to accept that the whole structure of starting a business conspires and holds you hostage to staring into the abyss while chewing glass. There's constantly a threat of failure and there are zillions of nagging little details that will keep cropping up.. One has to keep cool and marathon that shit out with zenceptional grit, and that's what I believe I3 are capable of!

[WildWex]

\o/

Could we get this up on Coindesk?

Thanks CLains - looking into that.  In the meantime, you can review at:
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/caution-watch-for-falling-pts/

[santaclause102]

Great Video. Thanks Daniel!

I wanna say one thing here: It seems to me that I often criticize things here and even more often ask stupid questions (especially about the technical parts). But in the end I am a big believer. I think the reason that there is a lot of critical questions and comments is that people want to be as sure as possible about the bets they (already) made on the succes of I3 software. No one has to say / ask something except for social / community / fun reasons if all is fine and in line with his/her I3 investments. I criticize to provoke counter arguments only when I am already highly interested/invested...

So thanks to you Dan and the whole I3 team behind the scenes, especially for the unseen passion and commitement you bring to the table! I got your back like the whole community does 

[CLains]

\o/

Could we get this up on Coindesk?

[JakeThePanda]

I'm just thinking about how cheap AGS will be the day after the snapshot. 

[bytemaster]

Sneak peak of other video 

Change that Feb23rd date, ya'll!

Gregory is on it.

[yellowecho]

Sneak peak of other video 

Change that Feb23rd date, ya'll!

[DowntownHiFi]

Invictus Innovations has provided a video with exciting news regarding the February 28, 2014 BitShares Snapshot, BitShares XT (the first test release of our decentralize bank and exchange trading platform), and a word about exciting new DACs that will be launched. Go to http://vimeo.com/user24356268/review/87448377/66716b27fa to watch the video.