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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2020, 04:53:57 am »
见证人不是一票一投??  那配合锁仓  直接把见证人全部接管了,以后喂价想喂多少都行?

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2020, 04:55:53 am »
有预谋的,Abit偷偷的添加了代码规则,又亲自的开启了这个功能,一步一步精算你们。现在被喷却不出来解释,也不说话,恶意得很,说不定在销毁2.5亿BTS的时候又偷偷的添加进来了25亿呢。

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2020, 04:58:58 am »
见证人不是一票一投??  那配合锁仓  直接把见证人全部接管了,以后喂价想喂多少都行?


不是,你想简单了。

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2020, 05:01:51 am »
见证人不是一票一投??  那配合锁仓  直接把见证人全部接管了,以后喂价想喂多少都行?

见证人倒是必须要改,一票多投本身就存在严重的贿选问题,像eos大家基本是心照不宣的你投我我投你。

见证人质押,一票一投,投票阈值激活。

锁仓控制见证人获利看似可行,实则难行。
« Last Edit: July 31, 2020, 05:06:22 am by binggo »

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2020, 05:08:25 am »
BTS已经没救了,Abit一个人可以敌得过整个BTS社区和全部理事会,Abit一个人敌得过30亿BTS票权,还有什么好投票的?理事会全是渣渣了,干不过一个Abit。Abit一人即是天下。

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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2020, 05:15:02 am »
BTS已经没救了,Abit一个人可以敌得过整个BTS社区和全部理事会,Abit一个人敌得过30亿BTS票权,还有什么好投票的?理事会全是渣渣了,干不过一个Abit。Abit一人即是天下。

我看到国外社区基本对这个规则意见不大啊😂,国内部分社区也没意见啊😹

至于规矩嘛,不是早就坏了嘛,MM投票换仓作弊,用未被社区投票激活的BAIP做规则不也是溜的不行嘛😹

所以不要激动😅

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« Last Edit: July 31, 2020, 05:33:46 am by binggo »

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2020, 05:33:08 am »
这个规则本来就是老外社区提出来的,老外肯定支持啊
BTS已经没救了,Abit一个人可以敌得过整个BTS社区和全部理事会,Abit一个人敌得过30亿BTS票权,还有什么好投票的?理事会全是渣渣了,干不过一个Abit。Abit一人即是天下。

我看到国外社区基本对这个规则意见不大啊😂,国内部分社区也没意见啊😹

至于规矩嘛,不是早就坏了嘛,MM投票换仓作弊,用未被社区投票激活的BAIP做规则不也是溜的不行嘛😹

所以不要激动😅
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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2020, 05:40:51 am »
这个规则本来就是老外社区提出来的,老外肯定支持啊
BTS已经没救了,Abit一个人可以敌得过整个BTS社区和全部理事会,Abit一个人敌得过30亿BTS票权,还有什么好投票的?理事会全是渣渣了,干不过一个Abit。Abit一人即是天下。

我看到国外社区基本对这个规则意见不大啊😂,国内部分社区也没意见啊😹

至于规矩嘛,不是早就坏了嘛,MM投票换仓作弊,用未被社区投票激活的BAIP做规则不也是溜的不行嘛😹

所以不要激动😅

No the foreigner doesn't support anything which has not being implemented according to protocol.
Don't call Digital Lucifer/BEOS foreigners

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2020, 05:57:39 am »
支持

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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2020, 06:01:35 am »
这个规则本来就是老外社区提出来的,老外肯定支持啊
BTS已经没救了,Abit一个人可以敌得过整个BTS社区和全部理事会,Abit一个人敌得过30亿BTS票权,还有什么好投票的?理事会全是渣渣了,干不过一个Abit。Abit一人即是天下。

我看到国外社区基本对这个规则意见不大啊😂,国内部分社区也没意见啊😹

至于规矩嘛,不是早就坏了嘛,MM投票换仓作弊,用未被社区投票激活的BAIP做规则不也是溜的不行嘛😹

所以不要激动😅

No the foreigner doesn't support anything which has not being implemented according to protocol.
Don't call Digital Lucifer/BEOS foreigners

We have lost rules long time ago,  the process may be not right, but the things looks not so bad, the big
affected party is cn-vote, more and more bigger vote of margin position is a more serious problem than this in the further, and we will can't do anything with it.
i don't support this process, but i support this change, maybe the change is not so good, will make beos or baozi become big vote,maybe not so good as we think in the further, but if it is more worse than now? Let's hope this process doesn't happen again.



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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2020, 06:05:51 am »
support the change

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« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2020, 06:08:58 am »
support the fucking change

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« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2020, 06:44:46 am »
The whole voting system is weak.Has so many dangerous features which can be exploited to death by wealthy holders.
Take control over committee with x32 and you take control over bitassets income.
Get 11 witnesses voted in and you control the chain.

People are going to monitor and pay with their own investments to protect bitshares from these attacks ?


Personly i'm positive for voting changes but discussed within the community to not have these risky wholes and without destroying confidence that bitshares can't be controled by a single person.

This voting system mainly benefits BEOS and makes the reserve pool wide open to them to get the funding for their so desired gateway integration.

Who is going to pay millions of BTS to retort beos attempt getting funding ?
They can win ten's of millions of BTS what is the guy winning who is going to protect the reserve pool ?
Only a loss.Who is going to do that ?
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Re: 4.0 投票机制变化
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2020, 07:07:57 am »

现在的机制可能依然存在漏洞,但明显比原来的规则合理,支持

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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2020, 08:02:28 am »
Only getting partial translation but the change to exclude collateral voting sounds completely sensible - the debt positions dominating the vote has led to fake price feeds to protect those debt positions. That can't be sustainable.

Consensus has been a mess for a while now so overall I think this one sounds like a positive change.

Locking your BTS for increased voting power...that's interesting and on paper means longer term thinking voters get more power. It may be open to abuse by big holders locking up large sums but hopefully also means smaller long term thinking holders can come together and have more of an impact.

Decaying votes feels sensible too but I need to read the details a bit.

How much difference has this change actually made to voting?