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Withdraw your BTS from binance before 7th March 2024! https://hive.blog/hive-120117/@nftea.gallery/reminder-withdraw-your-bitshares-from-binance-before-7th-march-2023-act-now-or-lose-out

"請在 2024 年 3 月 7 日之前從 binance 撤回您的 BTS!"


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This forum board itself could do with some maintenance, there's a lot of spam in the "general discussion" and "random discussion" boards which is quite off-putting.

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https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=33976.msg350370;topicseen#msg350370  这里面列的第三步是研究怎样在社区里建立捐助机制。大家一起捐钱给开发者,激励他们工作。

EOS里有这样的系统,不知道能不能对接上BTS。

前天看SWAPBTS,里面有捐款页面,竟然没有一个人捐款。如果捐款有空投预期,或许会有人响应。
不知道abit有没有收到过捐款,反正我没捐过。
主要觉得他有钱,不在乎几毛钱的捐款。
其次,也许他厌恶捐款呢?

如果开发者喜欢被捐款,那就让捐款机制更科学。
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以github上的维护小组,为雏形,成立“比特股发币委员会”,围绕开发的各种新功能,发行各种新币。

各种新功能,各种新币,生态壮大后,发行银行资产背书的稳定币(白条)。

白条稳定币规模足够大后,再尝试算法稳定币。

这个顺序,好像才是健康的。打乱这个顺序,就是拔苗助长。
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You are right, I really mean bitassets - the committee owned and branded smartcoins. Thank you!

2021年之后,市场调整期间,比特股社区也做过几次智能币规则的修改尝试,试图恢复智能币的信誉,完善承兑功能。典型的一次短暂而彻底失败的尝试即所谓的负反馈精准锚定。第二次试验就是现在还在采用的方案,废弃锁死最低喂价,恢复最初的喂价方法,把黑天鹅全局清算改为最低抵押率清算,此时BitUSD市场早已全局清算,仅仅能维持BitCNY市场的半死状态,和死了也差不多。

记得就在前几年,比特股创始人BM离开比特股多年之后,又回访过一次比特股论坛,只提了一个问题,询问比特股当时的喂价方案,之后就没有再出现过。我猜想,他肯定是没有得到满意的答案,当然既然他提出这个问题,那就是说他也没有想到和发现满意的答案。再就是如果他找到了满意的答案,他有可能想在EOS上做个抵押锚定币方面的项目。

You talk about smartcoins, but you really mean bitassets - the committee owned and branded smartcoins.

Anyone can create their own privatized bitasset, free from outside influence, free from past bitshares prices, and many people have; see "honest.cny", "hertz", "hero", and the norns like "urthr" "skuld", and "verthandi" for example.

Some of these privatized smartcoins have good operational records with marketing being the limiting factor. You can create these to reference any asset as long as you have price feed scripts for them, with your own smartcoin config & black swan recovery methods set, no need for secondary chains to try out new smartcoin ideas (other than the test network).

The competitors to smartcoins don't seem to transparently demonstrate sufficient backing collateral, so no wonder competing with them is tough when they're effectively just passing off user issued assets on other chains with no proof/withdrawal mechanisms as the real deal.

You bring up a lack of innovation, but you haven't mentioned the liquidity pools, the reference UI spotlight features, suez order sends order mechanics, the expansion of "black swan recovery methods" for improving smartcoin development, NFT apps/galleries, Airdrop tech, the introduction of credit offer lending on chain neither?

You bring up death & failure,  yet the blockchain blocks reliably continue to be produced every 3 seconds regardless of bizarre CEX behaviour. Good riddance to Binance, their platform brought centralization and downwards price action.

I'd note that the clone coin you mention didn't to a proper genesis so isn't a true fork & has an mcap 40x smaller than BTS as of this post, not a good look. They even modified their core to be fully centralized, banning accounts from the chain: https://github.com/bitshares-cnvote/newbitshares-core/blob/29c316e376f1a0925537b2e6dd0bf226c0df99bf/libraries/chain/evaluator.cpp#L81

I'd probably say encouraging new gateways to open up, and/or encouraging existing gateways to support new tokens should be on the road to revival, back when BTS was top 10 there were more than we have now. That and more UI development.

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2021年之后,市场调整期间,比特股社区也做过几次智能币规则的修改尝试,试图恢复智能币的信誉,完善承兑功能。典型的一次短暂而彻底失败的尝试即所谓的负反馈精准锚定。第二次试验就是现在还在采用的方案,废弃锁死最低喂价,恢复最初的喂价方法,把黑天鹅全局清算改为最低抵押率清算,此时BitUSD市场早已全局清算,仅仅能维持BitCNY市场的半死状态,和死了也差不多。

记得就在前几年,比特股创始人BM离开比特股多年之后,又回访过一次比特股论坛,只提了一个问题,询问比特股当时的喂价方案,之后就没有再出现过。我猜想,他肯定是没有得到满意的答案,当然既然他提出这个问题,那就是说他也没有想到和发现满意的答案。再就是如果他找到了满意的答案,他有可能想在EOS上做个抵押锚定币方面的项目。

You talk about smartcoins, but you really mean bitassets - the committee owned and branded smartcoins.

Anyone can create their own privatized bitasset, free from outside influence, free from past bitshares prices, and many people have; see "honest.cny", "hertz", "hero", and the norns like "urthr" "skuld", and "verthandi" for example.

Some of these privatized smartcoins have good operational records with marketing being the limiting factor. You can create these to reference any asset as long as you have price feed scripts for them, with your own smartcoin config & black swan recovery methods set, no need for secondary chains to try out new smartcoin ideas (other than the test network).

The competitors to smartcoins don't seem to transparently demonstrate sufficient backing collateral, so no wonder competing with them is tough when they're effectively just passing off user issued assets on other chains with no proof/withdrawal mechanisms as the real deal.

You bring up a lack of innovation, but you haven't mentioned the liquidity pools, the reference UI spotlight features, suez order sends order mechanics, the expansion of "black swan recovery methods" for improving smartcoin development, NFT apps/galleries, Airdrop tech, the introduction of credit offer lending on chain neither?

You bring up death & failure,  yet the blockchain blocks reliably continue to be produced every 3 seconds regardless of bizarre CEX behaviour. Good riddance to Binance, their platform brought centralization and downwards price action.

I'd note that the clone coin you mention didn't to a proper genesis so isn't a true fork & has an mcap 40x smaller than BTS as of this post, not a good look. They even modified their core to be fully centralized, banning accounts from the chain: https://github.com/bitshares-cnvote/newbitshares-core/blob/29c316e376f1a0925537b2e6dd0bf226c0df99bf/libraries/chain/evaluator.cpp#L81

I'd probably say encouraging new gateways to open up, and/or encouraging existing gateways to support new tokens should be on the road to revival, back when BTS was top 10 there were more than we have now. That and more UI development.

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停更几天,请移步二楼,看修改润色后的论文。

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比特股自创世以来的情形好有一比,一些人投巨资打造了一个完全开放式的现代化豪华高档金融市场,这些人还有其后其他众多商户纷纷进来开商号,储户们也纷纷进来存钱。因为这个市场一直没有设防,保护商号们的安全,结果各种打砸抢时有发生,平台对此置若罔闻,商号们叫苦不迭。更离谱的是,这个市场以保护储户利益为借口,还要对被打砸抢的商户处以储户存款本金两倍总价10%的罚款。长此以往,各个商户逐一倒闭破产,最终储户们存的钱也化为乌有。试问,在现实世界里,如果存在这样的市场,他能开下去吗?


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再来看看比特股,比特股有没有护法?比特股的护法在哪里?比特股各种功能完备,性能做到了极致,反而彻底失败,根本原因是什么?比特股自创世起可能就没想过,亦或想过也一直没有找到自己真正的护法。众所周知,比特股是做金融平台的,要落地要应用。比特股成功与否的根本所在就是精心打造的智能币能不能取得成功。比特股的护法要为智能币保驾护航。反观比特股从创世至今,智能币的法规不但起不到保驾护航的作用,反而成为自毁长城的角色。因此,比特股的失败也是创世期就注定了的。



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每个人都可以说出自己的答案,有各种各样的原因和理由。但问题的根本在哪里,恐怕未必有人想过并且想清楚,包括比特股创始人BM,大家可以回顾一下,好好想想BM和中本聪的对话。BM认为比特币的性能做不了电子现金,要提高出块速度和容量,中本聪什么话也没说,也没时间解释,其实他就是不想解释,明者自明。中本聪创世的就是一篇论文和一段程序代码,在创世区块引用了报纸新闻的一个标题,这成为比特币的檄文,被后来无数追随者一再提起。中本聪真正抓住了问题的本质,光喊口号也没用,还要有护法。比特币的护法就是出块奖励四年减半,慢慢收敛到两千一百万的总量。这就是比特币注定成功的关键所在。

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这些都是枝叶,不是比特股的关键。

EOS的DFS是试图利用比特币铭文融入比特币生态。这是一条比较可行的路线。
生态中缺乏原生资产,铭文的社区属性,不存在跑路问题,所以,一个铭文网关,可以在这个币圈社区中如鱼得水。

为了取得成功,比特股需要采取哪些关键步骤

1.   强化核心团队:比特股需要组建一个稳定、专业的核心团队,包括技术、运营、市场等方面的人才。这个团队需要具备强大的执行力和凝聚力,以推动项目的持续发展。

2.   创新技术:比特股需要不断进行技术创新,以满足市场需求并保持竞争优势。这包括提高交易速度、增强安全性和可扩展性等方面。只有具备先进技术的比特股才能在竞争激烈的市场中立足。

3.   扩大社区支持:比特股需要积极发展社区,吸引更多的关注和支持。这可以通过社交媒体、线上线下活动等方式实现,同时要与用户保持密切互动,积极回应问题和反馈。

4.   强化合规性:随着加密货币市场的监管日益严格,比特股需要加强合规性建设,确保符合相关法律法规。这可以提升项目的信任度和可接受度,进而拓展市场份额。

5.   优化商业模式:比特股需要探索和优化可持续的商业模式,以实现长期盈利。这包括考虑收取交易手续费、推出优质产品和服务等方式,同时要保持与合作伙伴的良好关系。

总之,比特股要取得成功,需要不断进行创新和改进,加强团队建设、社区发展和合规性建设等方面的工作。同时,需要关注市场需求和用户反馈,优化商业模式,提升项目的竞争力和可持续发展能力。

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EOS的DFS是试图利用比特币铭文融入比特币生态。这是一条比较可行的路线。
生态中缺乏原生资产,铭文的社区属性,不存在跑路问题,所以,一个铭文网关,可以在这个币圈社区中如鱼得水。

为了取得成功,比特股需要采取哪些关键步骤

1.   强化核心团队:比特股需要组建一个稳定、专业的核心团队,包括技术、运营、市场等方面的人才。这个团队需要具备强大的执行力和凝聚力,以推动项目的持续发展。

2.   创新技术:比特股需要不断进行技术创新,以满足市场需求并保持竞争优势。这包括提高交易速度、增强安全性和可扩展性等方面。只有具备先进技术的比特股才能在竞争激烈的市场中立足。

3.   扩大社区支持:比特股需要积极发展社区,吸引更多的关注和支持。这可以通过社交媒体、线上线下活动等方式实现,同时要与用户保持密切互动,积极回应问题和反馈。

4.   强化合规性:随着加密货币市场的监管日益严格,比特股需要加强合规性建设,确保符合相关法律法规。这可以提升项目的信任度和可接受度,进而拓展市场份额。

5.   优化商业模式:比特股需要探索和优化可持续的商业模式,以实现长期盈利。这包括考虑收取交易手续费、推出优质产品和服务等方式,同时要保持与合作伙伴的良好关系。

总之,比特股要取得成功,需要不断进行创新和改进,加强团队建设、社区发展和合规性建设等方面的工作。同时,需要关注市场需求和用户反馈,优化商业模式,提升项目的竞争力和可持续发展能力。
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二、比特股创始的初心和目标

比特股从初创到现在,历经十年的风霜雪雨,一路坎坷,人来人往,几乎所有人包括已去的和新来的,都忘记了十年前BM带领天使投资人们创建比特股的初心和目标:打造一个去中心化的银行和交易所,使全世界所有人都能够无需审查就能利用现代的金融工具,获得真正的解放。

要最终实现这个初心和目标,比特股最终需要走到哪里?能走到哪里?为什么现在还没有走到那里?怎样才能走到那里?

第一个问题的答案是比特股至少需要回到它曾经坐过的宝座,即市值排行榜第三的宝座上。

能不能回到那个位置,我说能,没人相信。看看以太坊和币安短短数年即崛起的例子,事实上比特股比二者都具有先发优势,业务上比特股与币安重叠,比特股更多,币安现在的位置本该是比特股该在的那个地方。

为什么比特股历经长达十年的时间,现在还没有回到那个位置,反而背道而驰?